My From Start to Finish 6.0L Build

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Rocket Man

Mark
Supporting Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2014
Posts
26,679
Reaction score
52,949
Location
Oregon
Over the weekend I did manage to get 4 more pistons installed.

Most of my time though was spent with my sick Beagle and keeping him comfortable. I also had to install a new overhead garage door. The old one was taken out by a failed torsion spring. Wow, lucky that thing failed without anything underneath it. I did the install myself and used a torsions spring conversion called EZ torsion spring. You use a drill to wind the spring. Pretty simple.

Installed the other pistons tonight. However, going to remove #7 in the next day or two. It did not go in as easy as the others so I'm concerned I might have damaged one of the rings. Better safe then sorry.

I will post pictures when I get a chance.
My Malamute just got over being sick, he had a throat infection. Hope your buddy gets well soon.
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
My Malamute just got over being sick, he had a throat infection. Hope your buddy gets well soon.
Glad your buddy is feeling better. My Beagle is feeling better. He has good and bad days. Keeping him comfortable. He goes in later this week for an ultrasound and then a an appointment with an oncologist to see if his cancer is treatable and hopefully come up with a game plan. He's still such a happy dog and like me keeps pushing himself to far.
 

Rocket Man

Mark
Supporting Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2014
Posts
26,679
Reaction score
52,949
Location
Oregon
I didn't even know that was possible for a dog. How'd you know he was sick? Wasn't eating?
He was coughing at times, coughed up phlegm a few times and when he ate he would cough up bits of his food.
Glad your buddy is feeling better. My Beagle is feeling better. He has good and bad days. Keeping him comfortable. He goes in later this week for an ultrasound and then a an appointment with an oncologist to see if his cancer is treatable and hopefully come up with a game plan. He's still such a happy dog and like me keeps pushing himself to far.
I really hope it’s treatable. It’s so hard when an animal is sick because they can’t tell us if it hurts. My last dog, an Alaskan Husky, got cancer. We fought it for a long time. I still really miss him. Hoping for the best for your buddy and for strength for you.
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
He was coughing at times, coughed up phlegm a few times and when he ate he would cough up bits of his food.

I really hope it’s treatable. It’s so hard when an animal is sick because they can’t tell us if it hurts. My last dog, an Alaskan Husky, got cancer. We fought it for a long time. I still really miss him. Hoping for the best for your buddy and for strength for you.
Thank you Mark.

“Such short little lives our dogs have to spend with us, and they spend most of it waiting for us to come home each day. It is amazing how much love and laughter they bring into our lives and even how much closer we become with each other because of them.”
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
Here are the pictures. I did pull the number 7 piston and the rings all looked good. Reinstalled and it went in much easier this time. One of the rings must of got slightly hung up in the compressor.

Underneath.jpg


Left side - 1, 3, 5 and 7

Left Side.jpg


Right side - 2, 4, 6 and 8

Right Side.jpg
 

iamdub

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2016
Posts
20,821
Reaction score
45,012
Location
Li'l Weezyana
... I did the install myself and used a torsions spring conversion called EZ torsion spring. You use a drill to wind the spring. Pretty simple.

I was an overhead door tech in a past life and our primary product was Wayne-Dalton. They had a "TorqueMaster" torsion system which was a spring or springs inside of a tube, wound on the ends by a screw gun or drill. I've always liked the traditional torsion spring system better. That one you got is like a combination of the two. I like it.
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
It was so easy to install too. My wife was not going to let me go with the earlier type and do it myself. I almost went with the long springs until I found this system. We'll see if it holds up.
 

iamdub

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2016
Posts
20,821
Reaction score
45,012
Location
Li'l Weezyana
It was so easy to install too. My wife was not going to let me go with the earlier type and do it myself. I almost went with the long springs until I found this system. We'll see if it holds up.

Extension springs? Eew.

I like the traditional torsion styles since you can maintain the spring and know when it breaks. A girlfriend's garage door opened very slowly but closed much more quickly. She said it's been like that for as long as she can remember. I just told her that her operator was about to break and she'd never get that door open. The LH spring inside the TorqueMaster tube was broken, so it had only half of the counterbalance. I can't believe the top section wasn't tearing apart. I told her it was equivalent to someone lifting her by her hair. Had it been an external spring, she would've seen it.
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
Extension springs? Eew.

I like the traditional torsion styles since you can maintain the spring and know when it breaks. A girlfriend's garage door opened very slowly but closed much more quickly. She said it's been like that for as long as she can remember. I just told her that her operator was about to break and she'd never get that door open. The LH spring inside the TorqueMaster tube was broken, so it had only half of the counterbalance. I can't believe the top section wasn't tearing apart. I told her it was equivalent to someone lifting her by her hair. Had it been an external spring, she would've see
My thoughts exactly on the extension springs. About not being able to open the door when these springs fail. You ain't kidding. I have two stall garage luckily with two 9 ft doors. Opening the one without the springs was amazingly hard - but doable. Not sure how that would have compared to trying to open the one long door.
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
Time to open the check book and get some more parts. I'm thinking about purchasing a Melling M295HV Oil Pump. Thoughts?
 

iamdub

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2016
Posts
20,821
Reaction score
45,012
Location
Li'l Weezyana
Time to open the check book and get some more parts. I'm thinking about purchasing a Melling M295HV Oil Pump. Thoughts?

With it being a fresh build with all new and tight bearing clearances, the extra volume isn't necessary and is just more load on the engine, costing you a few horsies. On an engine with wear and wider clearances, I'm a fan of a strong supply of volume to better "fill in the gap".
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
With it being a fresh build with all new and tight bearing clearances, the extra volume isn't necessary and is just more load on the engine, costing you a few horsies. On an engine with wear and wider clearances, I'm a fan of a strong supply of volume to better "fill in the gap".
Thank you for the input and insight. Makes sense to me.:)
 

Rocket Man

Mark
Supporting Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2014
Posts
26,679
Reaction score
52,949
Location
Oregon
Melling has a video on their LS oil pumps with a lot of good info so you can make an informed decision on your own. I agree that a new engine without added aftermarket oil coolers or outboard filters doesnt require a HV pump and pretty much any engine builder or pump manufacturer will tell you that if you don’t need one, don’t use one for the reason @iamdub mentioned. Here’s a link to that video. Skip to about 4:30 if you don’t want to learn about Melling’s company history.

 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
Melling has a video on their LS oil pumps with a lot of good info so you can make an informed decision on your own. I agree that a new engine without added aftermarket oil coolers or outboard filters doesnt require a HV pump and pretty much any engine builder or pump manufacturer will tell you that if you don’t need one, don’t use one for the reason @iamdub mentioned. Here’s a link to that video. Skip to about 4:30 if you don’t want to learn about Melling’s company history.

Thanks Mark. Good informative video. Looks I will be going with the Melling M295.
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
Waiting on parts, some will arrive on Tuesday. Spent the afternoon cleaning the rear crank/cam cover and various hardware. Removed the old oil seal and ensured seal and gasket surfaces were flat, cleaned and not damaged. Organized and planned out my next steps. Reviewed my build books and researched what color I would use for my covers and various other parts. I'm partial to blue so I'm going with GM blue.
 
OP
OP
RAMurphy

RAMurphy

Bob
Military
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Posts
1,450
Reaction score
4,649
Location
S. Maryland
Received a windage tray today - unfortunately they sent me the wrong part. It goes back and I went to another company to get the correct one. I should still get it on Tuesday with the rest of my parts. The GM blue paint also was delivered today.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
137,817
Posts
1,992,841
Members
102,795
Latest member
Drewphil
Back
Top