Slight miss but 6 mpg!!? Need help

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Chetty mo

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jun 9, 2022
Posts
18
Reaction score
4
Hi guys thanks for the add to the group. I’m having a real hard time trying to figure out what’s wrong with my 2008 GMC Yukon XL 5.3 4 x 4. I have a slight miss but no codes. I replaced everything in the evap system. Purge valve. Charcoal canister. Vapor canister vent valve. (Pump at gas station kept stopping while filling up). I tried a new throttle body. No change. I put new air filter in. I have a smoke machine. I have a creader scanner 123E. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
1F9C7BC1-7E6A-45E1-B5DA-6EAA0A18F475.jpeg

 

Fless

Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Apr 2, 2017
Posts
16,647
Reaction score
34,452
Location
People's Republic of Colorado
With your scanner, monitor and document your short- and long-term fuel trims at idle and at about 1500 rpm.

Also, when it's warmed up a little check that the upstream O2 sensors (B1S1, B2S1) are switching from about 0.1v to 0.9v.

Check your misfire counters; a decent scanner will have a counter for each cylinder.
 
OP
OP
C

Chetty mo

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jun 9, 2022
Posts
18
Reaction score
4
With your scanner, monitor and document your short- and long-term fuel trims at idle and at about 1500 rpm.

Also, when it's warmed up a little check that the upstream O2 sensors (B1S1, B2S1) are switching from about 0.1v to 0.9v.

Check your misfire counters; a decent scanner will have a counter for each cylinder.
Yes I have been taking my scanner with me on my landscaping route and watching the fuel trims. They look fine. My o2’s also look fine at about 750 to 850. I added a pic of something I don’t understand. The throttle position numbers in the red.
 

Attachments

  • C08C06D0-A5F0-4587-913B-E2B2519FECB6.jpeg
    C08C06D0-A5F0-4587-913B-E2B2519FECB6.jpeg
    356.5 KB · Views: 33
  • 89D498C2-D54F-4AAC-8761-47549067AC28.jpeg
    89D498C2-D54F-4AAC-8761-47549067AC28.jpeg
    297.4 KB · Views: 32
  • 59723D0A-F091-4302-AE1A-DBA5F4DC38F9.jpeg
    59723D0A-F091-4302-AE1A-DBA5F4DC38F9.jpeg
    277.9 KB · Views: 33
OP
OP
C

Chetty mo

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jun 9, 2022
Posts
18
Reaction score
4
With your scanner, monitor and document your short- and long-term fuel trims at idle and at about 1500 rpm.

Also, when it's warmed up a little check that the upstream O2 sensors (B1S1, B2S1) are switching from about 0.1v to 0.9v.

Check your misfire counters; a decent scanner will have a counter for each cylinder.
Also not showing anything for the misfire data. 0 which seems odd since I can feel it when accelerating and while sitting at a light. But not all the time very intermittent.
 
OP
OP
C

Chetty mo

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jun 9, 2022
Posts
18
Reaction score
4
Hi guys thanks for the add to the group. I’m having a real hard time trying to figure out what’s wrong with my 2008 GMC Yukon XL 5.3 4 x 4. I have a slight miss but no codes. I replaced everything in the evap system. Purge valve. Charcoal canister. Vapor canister vent valve. (Pump at gas station kept stopping while filling up). I tried a new throttle body. No change. I put new air filter in. New throttle body sensor. I have a smoke machine. I have a creader scanner 123E. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
OP
OP
C

Chetty mo

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jun 9, 2022
Posts
18
Reaction score
4

Attachments

  • 0C7BF9FA-0CEF-4FFA-B6B7-01AA0280150F.jpeg
    0C7BF9FA-0CEF-4FFA-B6B7-01AA0280150F.jpeg
    363.3 KB · Views: 24
  • 2B319427-C5F4-463F-97A7-E0BA724B21AE.jpeg
    2B319427-C5F4-463F-97A7-E0BA724B21AE.jpeg
    271.5 KB · Views: 30

Fless

Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Apr 2, 2017
Posts
16,647
Reaction score
34,452
Location
People's Republic of Colorado
Looks like it's been running a little rich. Besides the suggestions that @wjburken had, have you checked the fuel pressure, key on - engine off, and with it running?

EDIT: can you graph B1S1 to see how much it's moving? Has the MAF been cleaned lately?
 
OP
OP
C

Chetty mo

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jun 9, 2022
Posts
18
Reaction score
4
Looks like it's been running a little rich. Besides the suggestions that @wjburken had, have you checked the fuel pressure, key on - engine off, and with it running?

EDIT: can you graph B1S1 to see how much it's moving? Has the MAF been cleaned lately?
Yes cleaned Maf. Ordered new one. Yes that o2 goes from .1 to .9
 

wjburken

Elite Member
Supporting Member
Joined
Dec 26, 2017
Posts
10,315
Reaction score
29,545
Location
Eastern Iowa
What caused you to install the new throttle body and throttle position sensor? Anything particular or were you just pulling the trigger on the parts cannon? Not throwing stones, but it’s always good to know what, if anything, drive previous decisions.
 

Tonyv__

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 18, 2018
Posts
4,641
Reaction score
10,878
Location
Bucks county PA
Read if you dare.

It doesn’t get good until the bottom of page 9. I hope this isn’t your issue but it was for me. Wiped out lifter and camshaft. I tried to diagnose everything before I tore into the engine. I also had a slight miss only at idle and accelerating from idle

 
OP
OP
C

Chetty mo

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jun 9, 2022
Posts
18
Reaction score
4
What caused you to install the new throttle body and throttle position sensor? Anything particular or were you just pulling the trigger on the parts cannon? Not throwing stones, but it’s always good to know what, if anything, drive previous decisions.
My scanner is showing in red some values for the throttle position sensor. Position A and B. And absolute throttle position at 5.8% at idle.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
138,095
Posts
1,998,873
Members
103,020
Latest member
Andylbc
Back
Top