proactive instead of reactive - another AFM delete

[cplurbz]

Manual swap has been done in a few GMT800s. @Dantheman1540 has one.

I know a T56 (and the like) has been done in GMT900 trucks, but I don't know of any SUVs ("wagons"). I'd find a center console from another vehicle or mod mine to make the shifter work. That'd be the least of my worries. I'm pretty sure that, with the aftermarket support of the T56 (and TR6060), a shifter relocation can be sorted out.

its just a pipe dream anyway cause yea the inside would be the easy part. i just miss my firebird is all.

 

[cplurbz]

@cplurbz On the valve cover gaskets I would skip the blue fel pro's and go with GM OE. Just ordered a set of mine to replace the fel pro's I installed 2 years ago and are leaking already. I just ordered a set of GM off Amazon today as a matter of fact. I was told by a reputable local fleet truck repair shop that this is a known issue with the fel pros.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014MVCLP4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

ok ill track down an OE set then. thanks bud.

 

[Dustin Jackson]

I would hold out for real LS7 lifters, accepting no substitutes. Other than that, the stock ones are just fine for 6,500 rpms.

748UU for the OE spark plug wires. My daughter wanted red wires for her truck so we bought SUM-867828R from Summit and they are just fine.

As for the engine oil pump, use 12710303 for your iron block LMG or LY5.

@swathdiver What is the difference between Delphi LS7 style lifters and "real" LS7 lifters

 

[iamdub]

@cplurbz On the valve cover gaskets I would skip the blue fel pro's and go with GM OE. Just ordered a set of mine to replace the fel pro's I installed 2 years ago and are leaking already. I just ordered a set of GM off Amazon today as a matter of fact. I was told by a reputable local fleet truck repair shop that this is a known issue with the fel pros.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014MVCLP4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I ain't know dat. I think I just put the blue ones in mine earlier this year when I did my rockers and those grommets. At least, that's the same part number of Fel-Pro kit I used. I just went to check and, either I can't see the gaskets or they're black cuz I can't see any blue. Oh well. At least they're an easy swap if they leak.

 

[CaptainAmerica1]

those are coming from summit bud. im not amazoning or ebaying any damn thing unless i absolutely can not find it.



...wait, thats actually been done? thats a shitload of center console to rip out.

I have a jump seat you can have if you come get it. I swapped mine out for a console…. That T56 will fit fine…

 

[swathdiver]

 

[swathdiver]

@swathdiver What is the difference between Delphi LS7 style lifters and "real" LS7 lifters

Well, my BS detector rang when the description mentioned the word "style" and then I ran that part number across multiple GM websites and Summit Racing and came up with nothing.

LS7 lifters are good for street engines that don't see a lot of lift or tons of rpms.

GM Performance lifters have a bowtie emblem on them and they run to 8,000+ rpms with 500+ pounds of open spring pressure.

Ok, did some more googling, the 25341990 LS7 "Style" lifter part number is the number for a set of 16 and not individual. These are genuine GM lifters but I do not know their specs or application. Found them on Amazon of all places with photos of the box and part number.

I'm running the 12648846 lifters, don't know their specs either but they have lived to 6000 rpms so far (60K miles).

 

[Foggy]

Just to add to swathdiver's info: DO NOT BUY parts like these from places like
amazon and ebay... You WILL be sorry, no matter the savings.
There are TONS of knock off parts going around. A lifter is not one of those
you want to take any chances on. It'll wipe your motor
Use summit racing or an actual GM supplier.. Supply chain issues have F'ed up
the auto parts/ enthusiast's world in the last 2 years... Prices are stupid, so
be very careful of which parts you buy and whom you buy from

 

[CaptainAmerica1]

Well, my BS detector rang when the description mentioned the word "style" and then I ran that part number across multiple GM websites and Summit Racing and came up with nothing.

LS7 lifters are good for street engines that don't see a lot of lift or tons of rpms.

GM Performance lifters have a bowtie emblem on them and they run to 8,000+ rpms with 500+ pounds of open spring pressure.

Ok, did some more googling, the 25341990 LS7 "Style" lifter part number is the number for a set of 16 and not individual. These are genuine GM lifters but I do not know their specs or application. Found them on Amazon of all places with photos of the box and part number.

I'm running the 12648846 lifters, don't know their specs either but they have lived to 6000 rpms so far (60K miles).

Your ******** detector is calibrated correctly….

 

[89Suburban]

ok ill track down an OE set then. thanks bud.

Wish you well on your journey sir.

 

[89Suburban]

I ain't know dat. I think I just put the blue ones in mine earlier this year when I did my rockers and those grommets. At least, that's the same part number of Fel-Pro kit I used. I just went to check and, either I can't see the gaskets or they're black cuz I can't see any blue. Oh well. At least they're an easy swap if they leak.

Just keep an eye on them no biggie luv ya. My old heap has so many miles and blow by it’s not helping things in that regard.

 

[Dustin Jackson]

Well, my BS detector rang when the description mentioned the word "style" and then I ran that part number across multiple GM websites and Summit Racing and came up with nothing.

LS7 lifters are good for street engines that don't see a lot of lift or tons of rpms.

GM Performance lifters have a bowtie emblem on them and they run to 8,000+ rpms with 500+ pounds of open spring pressure.

Ok, did some more googling, the 25341990 LS7 "Style" lifter part number is the number for a set of 16 and not individual. These are genuine GM lifters but I do not know their specs or application. Found them on Amazon of all places with photos of the box and part number.

I'm running the 12648846 lifters, don't know their specs either but they have lived to 6000 rpms so far (60K miles).

@swathdiver I will report back on how they do, I am pretty sure I got the Delphi LS7 style lifters from Texas Speed Performance when I replaced mine.

 

[cplurbz]

Ok, did some more googling, the 25341990 LS7 "Style" lifter part number is the number for a set of 16 and not individual. These are genuine GM lifters but I do not know their specs or application. Found them on Amazon of all places with photos of the box and part number.

I'm running the 12648846 lifters, don't know their specs either but they have lived to 6000 rpms so far (60K miles).

oh yea, well are you cool enough to run summit brand lifters? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-htlskit2#overview

hahah, jesus. for such an important part of the build, everyone and their damn dog offers some kind of lifter.

even went to the website on the video you posted "we dont sell it" well they do sell Cam Motion for 200...whom ive never heard of.

why is it always the damn part that you dont think would be the point of contention seem to always turnout to be just that.

 

[swathdiver]

oh yea, well are you cool enough to run summit brand lifters? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-htlskit2#overview

hahah, jesus. for such an important part of the build, everyone and their damn dog offers some kind of lifter.

even went to the website on the video you posted "we dont sell it" well they do sell Cam Motion for 200...whom ive never heard of.

why is it always the damn part that you dont think would be the point of contention seem to always turnout to be just that.

Nope. Not unless I knew the GM part numbers or who the GM OE supplier is. For example, we know that Timken made our hubs so I have no problem using a Timken hub over one in a GM box.

Cam Motion is a very popular company, they make great camshafts and also supply the cores for or do the grinding for many company's offerings.

 

[cplurbz]

Nope. Not unless I knew the GM part numbers or who the GM OE supplier is. For example, we know that Timken made our hubs so I have no problem using a Timken hub over one in a GM box.

Cam Motion is a very popular company, they make great camshafts and also supply the cores for or do the grinding for many company's offerings.

hmmm, very well. im gonna end up callin a few of these people and weigh out what their opinions are about the stuff theyre peddling.

 

[Foggy]

My lifters I used were cam motion brand. I bought my cam and lifters from Gwatney Performance..
OF course that was a year ago this week. SO I don't know what they have now.. They are a GM Dealer so
you can get GM OE parts too

 

[iamdub]

I visited Cam Motion years ago and chatted with Kip. They're quite passionate about what they do. At least, they were back then.

 

[Geotrash]

I have a Cam Motion cam in my 2012 and absolutely love it.

 

[cplurbz]

aight, couldnt find a number for GPI. they have a message center but id rather not. TSP did and they were...less than enthused to talk to a random **** retentive moron about anything, cant blame them. the trays are legit. they recommend their $800 johnson 2110r lifters of course.

and just my idle curiosity asked why only offer an LM7 cam when its specs were different then a stock cam LMG without AFM. "cause its cheaper"...fair enough.

probably just buy the perfromace lifters off GPI cause they got a black friday goin on. already ordered the L33 from gm parts direct.

 

[Dustin Jackson]

@cplurbz For what its worth, the delphi LS7 style lifters seem good to me. All of the parts that came in my Texas Speed AFM delete kit seemed good quality, the lifter trays were legit and nice and tight and held the lifters very snug. They tried to sell me on the LM7 cam but I came here and did my own research and yea the L33 seems to be the move. More details can be found in my signature.

One thing I wanted to mention to you is to get a new camshaft thrust plate when you swap your cam. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinf...DTBk/JheYvQi7qzLHZo1bO3SXL198QDpNfzCBui0s+RM=