2nd engine failure, waiting since Oct 17/2024

[Bkihum]

Lemon Laws vary from state to state. As you can see below NY and FL both have a 24 month limit on new vehicles, but NY has an 18K mileage limit and FL have a more lenient 24K mileage limit.

Here is NY law
The New Car Lemon Law protects those who buy or lease new cars or motor homes that turn out to be "lemons." If your car does not conform to the terms of the written warranty and the manufacturer or its authorized dealer is unable to repair the car after a reasonable number of attempts, you may be entitled to a full refund or a comparable replacement car. NOTE: A car is considered new if it was purchased less than two years from its original delivery date and has fewer than 18,000 miles on it.
Here is FL Lemon Law
Time limit: Florida's Lemon Law has a mileage limit of 24,000 miles. You have 24 months from the delivery date of your vehicle to take action under the Florida Lemon Law. Mileage limit: The vehicle must have 24,000 miles or fewer on the odometer, whichever comes first.

Thank u for the information

 

[B-train]

Friends son is a 20+ yr gm technician. We were bugging a while back why he is not driving a newer truck (has a 2006). His reason; ever since GM went to these active fuel management (AFM) and now dynamic fuel management (DFM) engines they (in his shop) seen a major uptick in engine related issues. With AFM it was burning oil and now with DFM is lifter failure that often takes out the engine with it. GM does not care, under warranty they fix, after warranty the customer pays and GM makes $ selling the parts. Said a lifter job can cost upwards of $8,000 +- providing it does not destroy the engine in the process. My neighbors 2021 Silverado 5.3L had the lifters destruct at 90,000 miles and they had to pay nearly $9,000 in repairs at a Chevy Dealer. Left him stranded out in nowhere land at 3am on a Sunday. RAM has the same lifter issues. Its all because of EPA and fuel economy goals they have to meet.

And......GM conveniently lowered the powertrain warranty from 100k to 60k. Coincidence? I think not. When I saw that happen, I could see them knowing it would cost too much under warranty so they passed the buck. Bunch of crap in my opinion. For $80k, a vehicle should be problem free for MANY miles and YEARS of service.

But, they won't step on the feet of commercial buyers who change out trucks like underwear, they still get 100k powertrain. Caveat: those vehicles are usually not in the CAFE group, therfore not built with problematic components and gimmicks.

 

[Bkihum]

And......GM conveniently lowered the powertrain warranty from 100k to 60k. Coincidence? I think not. When I saw that happen, I could see them knowing it would cost too much under warranty so they passed the buck. Bunch of crap in my opinion. For $80k, a vehicle should be problem free for MANY miles and YEARS of service.

But, they won't step on the feet of commercial buyers who change out trucks like underwear, they still get 100k powertrain. Caveat: those vehicles are usually not in the CAFE group, therfore not built with problematic components and gimmicks.

Totally agree,I also worked in the assembly division 42 years and the saying was {The Customer } pays our salary. What happened?

 

[Z15]

None of that lifter bs in the 3.0L diesel. Power train is 5 yrs / 100,000 miles.

 

[Bigburb3500]

And......GM conveniently lowered the powertrain warranty from 100k to 60k. Coincidence? I think not. When I saw that happen, I could see them knowing it would cost too much under warranty so they passed the buck. Bunch of crap in my opinion. For $80k, a vehicle should be problem free for MANY miles and YEARS of service.

But, they won't step on the feet of commercial buyers who change out trucks like underwear, they still get 100k powertrain. Caveat: those vehicles are usually not in the CAFE group, therfore not built with problematic components and gimmicks.

This right here. I do not believe anyone is aware of any failure of the 6.6L which is available in the 2500 and 3500 Silverados. I have the 6.0 Vortec and the thing is reliable like death and taxes. Again, commercial client that would not tolerate the short lifespan and potential revenue loss of trucks being down.

 

[B-train]

This right here. I do not believe anyone is aware of any failure of the 6.6L which is available in the 2500 and 3500 Silverados. I have the 6.0 Vortec and the thing is reliable like death and taxes. Again, commercial client that would not tolerate the short lifespan and potential revenue loss of trucks being down.

The only complaints I've heard first hand was oil consumption. It seems to be an issue on some trucks, not sure what years are affected. Totally sucks to have that problem too, but at least it won't leave you stranded.

 

[Antonm]

None of that lifter bs in the 3.0L diesel. Power train is 5 yrs / 100,000 miles.

no, just EGR, DPF, and SCR issues. And a belt driven oil pump at the back of the engine that as it wears the rubber it sheds clogs the oil pump pickup screen.

so it’s six of one , or a half dozen of the other, pick you poison ( or in this case more like pick your favorite piece of ****).
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[Z15]

no, just EGR, DPF, and SCR issues. And a belt driven oil pump at the back of the engine that as it wears the rubber it sheds clogs the oil pump pickup screen.

so it’s six of one , or a half dozen of the other, pick you poison ( or in this case more like pick your favorite piece of ****).
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Much ado over nothing. The belt is rated to 200,000 miles. I have a few friend with the LM2 engine and they say they have no problems. Mine has been trouble free.

For you viewing pleasure---->

 

[Stbentoak]

Much ado over nothing. The belt is rated to 200,000 miles. I have a few friend with the LM2 engine and they say they have no problems. Mine has been trouble free.

For you viewing pleasure---->

Ha Ha Thats right.... Not a single one of those "issues" pop up on here or anywhere else nearly to the extent of 5.3 and 6.2 issues. I don't think I've read on ANY forum about 3.0 engines being replaced more than once or twice. So far uses no oil, gets great mileage and not a whimper out of it....

 

[Antonm]

Plenty of issues with the 3.0 too, its just that generally speaking the owners of those are more often then not gearheads or car people that purposely chose the oddball engine for its perceived benefit's. The general 6.2 Tahoe or Yukon owner (remember the 6.2's are really only in the upper trim level trucks) doesn't even know how to pop the hood.

But a since we wanna do Youtube videos of how good the 3.0 is, plenty of videos about how bad they are too,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl5tCiS9_Tc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0xm0TRdqWs

and the list goes on, got tired or copy/ pasting
...

 

[EddieC]

I am a life long Chevy guy since the 60s but I have severe misgivings about buying another.
Being retired we can't put up with all the sh** that seems to be acceptable to them in their engine designs.
Engineers in my field don't screw with things that work. Car designers seem to not have that common sense.

 

[Korobs885]

Definitely sounds like a lemon law claim. Fortunately for you, GM does not put up much of a fight with a lemon claim once you file it. I had a 2021 Canyon that was in and out with an emissions issue, once I filed the claim it was settled within 3 months.

I’m sure that may differ from state to state, mine was in CA and the qualifications for a lemon claim are 3 or more visits to the dealer for a recognized fault, and still no resolution or repair. Mine had 6. It happens, and fortunately GM acknowledges it quickly and wants to move on. My buddy had a righteous lemon claim on a Ford Mustang and it stretched on for 3 years, with Ford fighting every step of the way. He eventually won.

I’d recommend reviewing the laws in your state and contacting a lemon law attorney. They’ll either buy back the car or let you keep it with a cash settlement.

 

[djsassan]

1. I am sorry for your pain. I have been through THREE engines on TWO different vehicles, it is not a good time.

2. Read these, hopefully they will answer some of your questions. These are all my personal experience throughout this:

2021 Yukon XL Denali - third engine and still under 42k miles

Hi all, looking for some advice help. I'll try to keep it brief but give sufficient detail. Purchased vehicle in Aug 2022, 37k miles on it all highway (able to verify this). 6.2L Nov 2022, driving 75mph in Maryland mountains on my first true road trip, car shuts off but still has power...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

Has anyone gone through the repurchase process? If so, can you share how it went?

Hi all, Yes, I did a search and read everything I could first. I have a Yukon XL 2021 that had a major engine failure, twice. The engine was replaced, then less than 2 weeks later the new engine died again. The engine was again replaced, making it the third engine in 6 weeks in the...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

Need suggestions - Vehicle repurchased, new vehicle in shop

Long, long story short, here are the key points. Yes, I am cutting out a LOT of details. I'd like your thoughts on what I should ask GMC to do next. Aug 2022: Bought a 2021 Yukon XL Denali with 38k miles, all highway. Nov 2022: Car shut off on me in the middle of the highway in Maryland...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

The engine on the Yukon I got as a replacement for the Yukon that got two engine replacements needs replaced. Yes, you read that correctly.

Yes, I wrote that title like that on purpose. At this point, I can only laugh at the situation. Backstory (super abbreviated): 2021 Yukon XL Denali bought at 36k miles. Engine blew at 40k-ish and was replaced under warranty, then th new engine failed at 142 miles and replaced, then a third...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

Would you keep your existing truck or get a new one in this situation?

Story starts here: https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/the-engine-on-the-yukon-i-got-as-a-replacement-for-the-yukon-that-got-two-engine-replacements-needs-replaced-yes-you-read-that-correctly.148569/#post-1879596 TLDR version - I bought a 2021 Yukon XL Denali, two engines blew up and a...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

3. Lemon law absolutely varies by state. I tried to go the nice guy route and got nowhere, so had to get an attorney involved, TWICE.

 

[Bkihum]

1. I am sorry for your pain. I have been through THREE engines on TWO different vehicles, it is not a good time.

2. Read these, hopefully they will answer some of your questions. These are all my personal experience throughout this:

2021 Yukon XL Denali - third engine and still under 42k miles

Hi all, looking for some advice help. I'll try to keep it brief but give sufficient detail. Purchased vehicle in Aug 2022, 37k miles on it all highway (able to verify this). 6.2L Nov 2022, driving 75mph in Maryland mountains on my first true road trip, car shuts off but still has power...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

Has anyone gone through the repurchase process? If so, can you share how it went?

Hi all, Yes, I did a search and read everything I could first. I have a Yukon XL 2021 that had a major engine failure, twice. The engine was replaced, then less than 2 weeks later the new engine died again. The engine was again replaced, making it the third engine in 6 weeks in the...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

Need suggestions - Vehicle repurchased, new vehicle in shop

Long, long story short, here are the key points. Yes, I am cutting out a LOT of details. I'd like your thoughts on what I should ask GMC to do next. Aug 2022: Bought a 2021 Yukon XL Denali with 38k miles, all highway. Nov 2022: Car shut off on me in the middle of the highway in Maryland...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

The engine on the Yukon I got as a replacement for the Yukon that got two engine replacements needs replaced. Yes, you read that correctly.

Yes, I wrote that title like that on purpose. At this point, I can only laugh at the situation. Backstory (super abbreviated): 2021 Yukon XL Denali bought at 36k miles. Engine blew at 40k-ish and was replaced under warranty, then th new engine failed at 142 miles and replaced, then a third...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

Would you keep your existing truck or get a new one in this situation?

Story starts here: https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/the-engine-on-the-yukon-i-got-as-a-replacement-for-the-yukon-that-got-two-engine-replacements-needs-replaced-yes-you-read-that-correctly.148569/#post-1879596 TLDR version - I bought a 2021 Yukon XL Denali, two engines blew up and a...

www.tahoeyukonforum.com

3. Lemon law absolutely varies by state. I tried to go the nice guy route and got nowhere, so had to get an attorney involved, TWICE.

Thank u for your reply and after reading what you went through I realize that things could be worse on my end.
The process that GM has for known engine failure is a joke,I know they can do better than that.I was part of GM salary for over 40 years and Im ashamed of the way they handle engine failures especially on vehicles that have 2 and 3 failures. Wasn't long ago that they would stop producing if they had a known problem and not start backup until a good start point was provided. Today it seems they just build it unless its an MVSS issue.

 

[KMeloney]

What’s “MVSS”?

 

[Bkihum]

What’s “MVSS”?

motor vehicle safety standards ...... These are set by government

 

[KMeloney]

Incidentally, engine failures have been reported by Escalade owners on the Cadillac Forum, too (as you probably can imagine).