Dealership suggests new engine. Your take?

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My husband and I bought a used 2018 Chevy Tahoe with the 5.3 engine that everyone seems to hate a year ago. It now has 109,000 miles on it. In the spring we got a check engine light that suggested the oil sensor was the problem so we got a new one put in. A few months later, same thing, got another new one put in. Last week, check engine light came on again so took it to Mavis (check engine light was off at this point) where they said pressure switch was okay but oil pressure was low and we needed to have it checked out.
We took it to the local Chevy dealership (didn't buy the Tahoe there) to have it diagnosed. This is what the person who took the car in told us the mechanic said: oil pressure was 40 at idle then at some point it dropped down to 19 psi (I may be missing a few points). I drive the Tahoe and this is basically what I see: around 20 psi at idle and 40 psi on highway. Based on the readings, he said they would need to take apart the engine to find the root cause because it could be a number of things and it would cost a lot to do that. He recommended replacing the engine.
This is what the paperwork said when we paid for the diagnostic testing: "...upon starting truck at idle oil pressure was right at 40, as engine warmed up pressure was dropping low, attempted o command 2nd state oil pressure with solenoid, solenoid does work and status change with command but pressure does no really change (1-3psi). after approx 15m of idle time and road test found oil pressure coming down to 19 psi. based on conditions will recommend engine assembly based on age/miles would require several hours of tear down to maybe find root cause, root cause could be a failing filter, could be a cam bearing starting to wear or a main bearing. oil psi comes up with rpm, CUSTOMER DECLINED REPAIR. (LOL)
My husband wants to put heavier weight oil in and ignore the problem until we can get back home in a few months where his mechanic brother can look at it.
Comments? Suggestions? What would you do?
Thanks. Sheila
 

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@TahoeLady 19 is not terrible, but I would request a mechanical test of the oil pressure to confirm.
you could also send out a oil test to blackstone labs and get a definitive answer as to if there is any signs of excessive wear, which would appear as metals in the test they do with a mass spectrometer, the test runs about $40 or so
both of these are much cheaper than a new engine and may help you to make a more informed decision.
could be something as simple as a crappy oil filter in all reality.
 
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Thank you. I sent for the test kit but am wondering about the mechanical test. I spent $180 for the diagnosis at the Chevy dealership. Isn't this something that should have been included?
 

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Thank you. I sent for the test kit but am wondering about the mechanical test. I spent $180 for the diagnosis at the Chevy dealership. Isn't this something that should have been included?
Welcome to the forum from Oregon.

What the dealer should have done and did do can be 2 different things. They may have just attached a scanner and did a live data test and are giving you voltage readings that they are crossing over to oil pressure.

I noticed they said, "started the engine". Started cold? Started hot? had an actual mechanical gauge attached to it and read the mechanical reading or read thru a scanner, live data?

19 psi is not terrible but as has been suggested, do and oil change and send in a sample and see what the gauge says with new oil and filter. What oil brand and what weight?
 

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Thank you. I sent for the test kit but am wondering about the mechanical test. I spent $180 for the diagnosis at the Chevy dealership. Isn't this something that should have been included?
unlikely unless you requested it or they specifically noted it on the repair order.
i.e. "mechanical test performed confirmed xx psi"
a mechanical test requires the oil pressure sensor is removed and a analog gauge is attached in it's place
 

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in any case it is probably best practice on these to change the oil every 3k, versus 5k it just helps keep the engine cleaner
 

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Oh, my gosh!… he gave you the clue… change the oil and FILTER with a quality filter (not to start a debate on quality filter) but Fram or Delco…. See if that solves problem…. If not time to find a new truck because a new engine will set you back $6-8 k… maybe more
 

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also if no one told you this already it is perfectly normal for these engines to run 40 cold and down to 20 hot (idle) so 19 is not a deal breaker, nor eminent of impending engine failure. The computer will throw a code at 10psi
be wary of being taken advantage of.
 
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also if no one told you this already it is perfectly normal for these engines to run 40 cold and down to 20 hot (idle) so 19 is not a deal breaker, nor eminent of impending engine failure. The computer will throw a code at 10psi
be wary of being taken advantage of.
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I didn't mention this before, but when Mavis checked the pressure switch, which they said was fine, they suggested that the P06DD code that was coming up might be related to a known problem covered in service bulletin PIP5407B. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10165914-9999.pdf
Does this sound likely? Has anyone dealt with this before?
it's possible, checking would likely require a visual inspection that probably wouldn't be cheap. R&R of the timing chain tensioner and sprocket is probably easily $3-4k but those codes at the bottom of the bulletin is what the service department uses to quote a PRICE. PARTS+LABOR
 
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it's possible, checking would likely require a visual inspection that probably wouldn't be cheap. R&R of the timing chain tensioner and sprocket is probably easily $3-4k but those codes at the bottom of the bulletin is what the service department uses to quote a PRICE. PARTS+LABOR
Thanks. Hubby changed oil to 5w30. We will see how that goes.
 

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