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The invention of a steering wheel lock…… was popular.
Back then GM had plastic that would lock the steering wheel once you took the key out of the ignition. All you had to do was jerk the steering wheel to the left or right and it would break that plastic lock. Way too easy to steal cars in the 80's and 90's.
 
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Organized gangs, financed by a collector ?
( “ Gone In Sixty Seconds” comes to mind )

Something like that. They stashed cars all over the place and only had a few spots where they took them apart.

The invention of a steering wheel lock…… was popular.
There was a metal column lock, fit around the column and was lockable and looked hideous.

I rigged a fuel pump kill switch right above the gas pedal in case I was car-jacked. It was popular in Florida then. Also installed an anti-theft device called Touch-N-Go that would disable the ignition. It was disarmed by using your body to ground two points. We could also put it in valet mode and it came on automatically. It is still sold for cars without air bags.

They kept breaking the column but could never get her started.
 

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Lol, they were so easy to steal…. Couple of crackheads tried to steal my 79 monte down in riverdale, right near van cortland park, last stop on the 1 & 9 train. Broke the column to get to the rod from the ignition switch, as you know james, but broke the white connector the rod goes into somehow…. Ended up stealing the change out of my ashtray leaving my kenwood pull out head unit in place… thats how i knew they were crackheads….. lol. I was under the dash hot wiring it to start it when the cops showed up… the real 5-0 ….50th precinct in the bronx… all four had guns drawn on me as im explaining that it was my car…. Lol… good times good times
 
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Lol, they were so easy to steal…. Couple of crackheads tried to steal my 79 monte down in riverdale, right near van cortland park, last stop on the 1 & 9 train. Broke the column to get to the rod from the ignition switch, as you know james, but broke the white connector the rod goes into somehow…. Ended up stealing the change out of my ashtray leaving my kenwood pull out head unit in place… thats how i knew they were crackheads….. lol. I was under the dash hot wiring it to start it when the cops showed up… the real 5-0 ….50th precinct in the bronx… all four had guns drawn on me as im explaining that it was my car…. Lol… good times good times
Great story Pete! Good thing you didn't get lead poisoning! LOL

That year Monte has great lines. Did you know that you can get a Johnny Lightning of the old girl?

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Too bad we didn't know each other then, we could have raced! LOL
 
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The engine in the Yukon is rattling now, seemingly on every start up and not just after sitting overnight or a few days. Pressure is slow to build. Oil pressure in gear at a traffic light can drop to 18 psi now. The o-ring has never been replaced. The motor is just shy of 217K miles.

Just completed the 12th tire rotation for these Michelin Defenders. They are 49 months old and have 52K miles on them now. Tread depth is 6/32 on the inside and outside and 7/32 in the middle on all four. It was this way last time and we bumped the air pressure from 30 to 31 psi. Looks like another 2 psi are needed to wear them even again. What say you?

Just completed the 8th tire rotation on the Defenders on the 2013 Sierra. They have 33K miles on them now. They are at the same tread depth now as the Yukon's Defenders were at the same mileage. These tires have a tread depth of 8/32 on the outside and middle and 9/32 on the inside. This kind of wear did not exist at the last tire rotation. This indicates too much of a positive camber and we want -.1 degree. Hopefully, my alignment guy, who I last saw almost 4 years ago, hasn't retired yet! This truck calls for 35 psi all around and that's what we've been running on her.

That 6.2 is so much fun to listen to and drive!

The Yukon XL is shod with: Michelin Defender LTX M/S - P265/70R17 SL 115T (62115 or 19340389)
The Sierra is shod with: Michelin Defender LTX M/S - P265/65R18 SL 114T (56465 or 19357580)

These standard load tires have been replaced with extra load or XL tires.

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The Yukon XL ran KO2s in load range C shortly after I bought and they lasted 4 1/2 years and just over 50K miles. I made a spreadsheet to compare the mileage between those tires and the Defenders and the data was surprising. The Defenders have gone to most of the places we drove through with the KO2s and never got stuck. The truck coasts for a long time on the Defenders whereas letting off the gas with the KO2s was like deploying the speed brakes or a parachute to slow down. The KO2s picked up road hazards all the time and 3 of the 4 were patched. Defenders are road hazard free. The Sierra had KO2s as well (Load Range E) and the first road hazard to ********* the tread destroyed the tire. Defenders quickly took their place. She got her speed and horsepower back after that. She turns 14s in the 1/4 mile and is bone stock.

What do you think of this chart?

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Let me explain the center section to you. The EPA considers 100% city driving to be an average speed of 21.2 mph and 100% highway driving to be an average speed of 48.3 mph. The city and highway averages pulled their data from those 225 fill ups in their respective categories. The Gallons Per Hour averages came from all of the fill ups with those tires on that kind of fuel and it is to be noted that the KO2s were driven at an average speed 4 miles an hour slower than the Defenders which is why the defenders show a higher fuel consumption per hour (29.5 mph vs 33.5 mph).

This does not include the change to 3.73 gears. That's a different spreadsheet!

Hope y'all have a great week!
 

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The EPA considers 100% city driving to be an average speed of 21.2MpH,
and 100% highway driving to be an average speed of 48.3MpH.
This is the chief reason why EPA MpG estimates are ... optimistically unrealistic for anyone who isn't a hypermiler.

This NuYoriquen considers 100% City driving to be an average speed of ... Manhattan driving, between rush hours ... 15MpH? 13MpH seems more like it.
Seriously, even after 'congestion pricing' (travesty), I rarely hit 21MpH in Manhattan, then only because I drive like a jacquesarse when traffic opens up.
Don't think any other New Yorker can take any EPA City MpG estimate seriously either though.

As for Highway MpG, during 'peak' traffic, even 21.2MpH as an avg seems unrealistically optimistic.
During off-peak, though, can easily maintain an avg speed of 50MpH ...
 
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This is the chief reason why EPA MpG estimates are ... optimistically unrealistic for anyone who isn't a hypermiler.

This NuYoriquen considers 100% City driving to be an average speed of ... Manhattan driving, between rush hours ... 15MpH? 13MpH seems more like it.
Seriously, even after 'congestion pricing' (travesty), I rarely hit 21MpH in Manhattan, then only because I drive like a jacquesarse when traffic opens up.
Don't think any other New Yorker can take any EPA City MpG estimate seriously either though.

As for Highway MpG, during 'peak' traffic, even 21.2MpH as an avg seems unrealistically optimistic.
During off-peak, though, can easily maintain an avg speed of 50MpH ...

Well, for example, the city mileage average of 21.2 mph is for a full tank of fuel the way I use it. You might have an hour or more at highway speeds and then the rest idling or driving in the city. Have had a few tanks where the average speed for that tank of gas never exceeded 15 mph.

My SIL lives in Brooklyn (Woodhaven) and commutes into Manhattan (Washington Heights) and that sometimes takes an hour to go less than 18 miles.
 
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Did you know that the government once gave these trucks a gas mileage rating of 80 and 87 miles per gallon because they were FlexFuel capable?

CAFE MPG Rating = 1/(0.5/Average Gasoline MPG+0.5/AVERAGE CAFE E85 MPG)

Average CAFE E85 MPG = Average E85 MPG/.15

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I reckon this was done to promote FlexFuel vehicles and boost GMs CAFE numbers. Thankfully, CAFE is no more.
 
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There are regular questions as to what fuel pressure these trucks run at. This post and the one following will show you what the 2008-2014 SUVs with the 5.3 and 6.2 engines run at. I know that the 4.8 and 5.3 2007s are wired differently and do not know about the others like the L76 6.0 engine.

Let's get after it!

Alright, the 2009 Yukon XL hadn't been driven yet, so it was cold iron when these readings were taken:

First photo is Key Off:

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Now the Key is On (pressure only went to about 52psi):

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Engine Started (Now we know it does not run at 58psi with engine running):

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Engine Shut Down, Key Still On:

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Key Off and then On Again (sufficient pressure to not prime the rail):

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Compare my LT Fuel Pump Trim with your own. There is a separate thread on that topic.

The Yukon has a 5.3 LC9 engine with about 217K on it.

An astute observer will notice that the Yukon's battery was a bit low as I forgot to turn off the headlamps and AC while taking those photos.
 
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Now, here are the photos of the fuel system for the 2013 GMC Sierra with the bone stock 6.2 L9H. She was also cold and has about 127K on the clock.

Photo Below is Key Off:

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Now the Key is On:

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Engine Running Now:

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Immediately After Engine Shutdown:

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Key Cycled Off and On with Engine Off:

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The lights and AC were off for these photos.

Next, the duty cycle of the Sierra's pump is less as are the Long Term Fuel Pump Trims. It's obviously a healthier pump. It could also be that those 54lb injectors allow for a lower duty cycle percentage on the 6.2 engine.
 
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Been taking a few days off from the forums to focus on family things. My youngest daughter's 21st birthday was over the weekend.

Three of us will be under anesthesia in the next few days. I'm going in for an overdue colonoscopy tomorrow morning. Later that afternoon my youngest gets her infected wisdom teeth removed. My father is getting a new valve for his heart. One of them is not working right, leaving him tired, winded and losing focus. So the doctors are going to put in a new one, and hopefully without having to crack open his chest. Amazing technology.

If you are the praying type, please keep them in your prayers.

See ya soon!
 

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Been taking a few days off from the forums to focus on family things. My youngest daughter's 21st birthday was over the weekend.

Three of us will be under anesthesia in the next few days. I'm going in for an overdue colonoscopy tomorrow morning. Later that afternoon my youngest gets her infected wisdom teeth removed. My father is getting a new valve for his heart. One of them is not working right, leaving him tired, winded and losing focus. So the doctors are going to put in a new one, and hopefully without having to crack open his chest. Amazing technology.

If you are the praying type, please keep them in your prayers.

See ya soon!

I just said one for all three of you, and will say more when I do my morning meditation. I'm praying for successful procedures and full healing for all of you, James.
 

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Prayers of peace and healing for all. Colonoscopy is the best nap ever. Take care brother.
I dreaded the prep crap you had to drink ……. Now you just take pills then drink plane water…….
( I started my own, ‘prep- liquid diet’ a 2 days earlier, just to make sure I was clear….
 

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Something like that. They stashed cars all over the place and only had a few spots where they took them apart.


There was a metal column lock, fit around the column and was lockable and looked hideous.

I rigged a fuel pump kill switch right above the gas pedal in case I was car-jacked. It was popular in Florida then. Also installed an anti-theft device called Touch-N-Go that would disable the ignition. It was disarmed by using your body to ground two points. We could also put it in valet mode and it came on automatically. It is still sold for cars without air bags.

They kept breaking the column but could never get her started.
LOL, on my '87 K-5 Blazer, a cop said the hose clamp, that held a tach to my steering column, was one of the best anti-theft devices I could have.

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I dreaded the prep crap you had to drink ……. Now you just take pills then drink plane water…….
( I started my own, ‘prep- liquid diet’ a 2 days earlier, just to make sure I was clear….
I'm glad to know that. My latest was a year ago, and I still had to drink that 'salty Lemon Pledge' tasting crap.

joe
 

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