Thoughts on greasable upper amd lower control arm bolts?

[Dadnali68]

Hi all,

Had to take the ride into a shop for some electrical work. While I was in there the shop found three out of four ball joints were going bad in the front. It's a semi rusty western NY truck, so I'm going to do upper and lower control arms. Moogs with the greasable ball joints. Shop owner recommended I replace hardware and suggested greasable bolts. I found some online, screen shot posted. Has anyone used these? They worth a shot? Is this snake oil? What are our thoughts here?

 

[89Suburban]

Hi all,

Had to take the ride into a shop for some electrical work. While I was in there the shop found three out of four ball joints were going bad in the front. It's a semi rusty western NY truck, so I'm going to do upper and lower control arms. Moogs with the greasable ball joints. Shop owner recommended I replace hardware and suggested greasable bolts. I found some online, screen shot posted. Has anyone used these? They worth a shot? Is this snake oil? What are our thoughts here?View attachment 449099

Very interesting. I personally would but only with these type of cams. I would be afraid of the slotted factory cams trying to walk with a lubed fastener.

https://www.amazon.com/99-18-Silverado-Sierra-Alignment-DK-632919/dp/B07MXPH8WM/ref=asc_df_B07MXPH8WM?mcid=ca6399e83bd43ea2af9082043ba5dc77&hvocijid=4182582353571957298-B07MXPH8WM-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4182582353571957298&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007372&hvtargid=pla-2281435180498&psc=1

 

[Dadnali68]

Very interesting. I personally would but only with these type of cams. I would be afraid of the slotted factory cams trying to walk with a lubed fastener.

https://www.amazon.com/99-18-Silverado-Sierra-Alignment-DK-632919/dp/B07MXPH8WM/ref=asc_df_B07MXPH8WM?mcid=ca6399e83bd43ea2af9082043ba5dc77&hvocijid=4182582353571957298-B07MXPH8WM-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4182582353571957298&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007372&hvtargid=pla-2281435180498&psc=1

Oh dang I didn't even think about that. I figured it would just lubricate where the bushing is and wouldn't interfere with the tightness of the cam plate. Whole new fear unlocked lol!

 

[Scrappycrow]

Very interesting. I personally would but only with these type of cams. I would be afraid of the slotted factory cams trying to walk with a lubed fastener.

The concept looks solid, but the lack of finer adjustment is a drawback (emphasis mine): "Provides +/- 1.5 degrees of camber & caster adjustment in 0.5 degree increments."

 

[89Suburban]

Oh dang I didn't even think about that. I figured it would just lubricate where the bushing is and wouldn't interfere with the tightness of the cam plate. Whole new fear unlocked lol!

Just thinking out loud, I could be full of sh*t. Like to hear other's opinions. I know they sell upper control arms with lube fittings on those bushings so it would be the same environment. All I know is when I try to tighten those slotted cam plates down they want to move on me. Those dirt king plates are kick ass. PITA to install and adjust but they lock into place leaving me piece of mind. They look good too.

 

[Dadnali68]

The concept looks solid, but the lack of finer adjustment is a drawback (emphasis mine): "Provides +/- 1.5 degrees of camber & caster adjustment in 0.5 degree increments."

How much do you get from stock?

 

[89Suburban]

The concept looks solid, but the lack of finer adjustment is a drawback (emphasis mine): "Provides +/- 1.5 degrees of camber & caster adjustment in 0.5 degree increments."

It's been my post-pandemic experience that a majority of alignment shops they don't give a FK about that fine of an adjustment let alone even doing more than a toe and go. But I do get you. I do my own alignments so I am not as worried about it.

 

[Dadnali68]

Just thinking out loud, I could be full of sh*t. Like to hear other's opinions. I know they sell upper control arms with lube fittings on those bushings so it would be the same environment. All I know is when I try to tighten those slotted cam plates down they want to move on me. Those dirt king plates are kick ass. PITA to install and adjust but they lock into place leaving me piece of mind. They look good too.

I think I'd be more interested in stock grade replacement hardware and greasable bushings. Happen to know who sells those?

 

[Scrappycrow]

How much do you get from stock?

To be clear, my comment is about the fineness of adjustment, not the adjustment range. So, "how much" isn't what I was responding about, it's that you can't get less than a half-degree change.

It's been my post-pandemic experience that a majority of alignment shops they don't give a FK about that fine of an adjustment let alone even doing more than a toe and go. But I do get you. I do my own alignments so I am not as worried about it.

Agreed, and I do my own alignments as well.

 

[89Suburban]

I think I'd be more interested in stock grade replacement hardware and greasable bushings. Happen to know who sells those?

Greaseable bushings? Only seen them on some aftermarket lift kit a-arms.

 

[89Suburban]

I do my own alignments as well.

Oh nice. >fist-bump< >beer-cheer<

 

[Dadnali68]

To be clear, my comment is about the fineness of adjustment, not the adjustment range. So, "how much" isn't what I was responding about, it's that you can't get less than a half-degree change.

Agreed, and I do my own alignments as well.

Edit: swing and a miss here i clicked reply and didn't type anything lol.

 

[Scrappycrow]

Oh nice. >fist-bump< >beer-cheer<

 

[Dadnali68]

Dang, not what I wanted to hear. This is my dad mobile/tow rig, I'm keeping it basically stock. Gents what about using new bolts with OE cam plates? Also super impressive that you both do your own alignments that's a level of self reliance I don't possess.

 

[Scrappycrow]

Dang, not what I wanted to hear. This is my dad mobile/tow rig, I'm keeping it basically stock. Gents what about using new bolts with OE cam plates? Also super impressive that you both do your own alignments that's a level of self reliance I don't possess.

If you've never had issues with stock components before, you're likely not going to start having issues with stock replacement components now.

Thanks for the compliment. It's kind of a PITA, but doing it myself is satisfying.

 

[Dadnali68]

If you've never had issues with stock components before, you're likely not going to start having issues with stock replacement components now.

Thanks for the compliment. It's kind of a PITA, but doing it myself is satisfying.

I feel that, that's why I'm going to do these control arms on my own. That and I'm a tight *** so for $600 and a weekend or two I'll gladly not pay 2k. That 1400 savings is like... three weeks of day care lol.

 

[Dadnali68]

For the price i might buy a set and see what I think. Still open to discussion, won't be doing the repair until like April or May.

 

[swathdiver]

For the price i might buy a set and see what I think. Still open to discussion, won't be doing the repair until like April or May.

GM OE parts only. Nothing else is as enduring.

 

[mikez71]

Plus grease-able moogs feel like turning a rusty bolt, factory ball joints felt nice and smooth. Don't really notice it driving, but as rough as the balljoints felt by hand, I'm thinking there is no way they will last.

I regret not getting timken hubs and gm control arms..

 

[Dadnali68]

GM OE parts only. Nothing else is as enduring.

Maybe give them a nice never seize paint job first where it goes in the bushing?