Those with 2023 orders and updates.

[WhiteZL1]

I am from Las Vegas, and to say I am frustrated with the ordering process is an understatement.

I got in line with one dealer who has ten people ahead of me back in November of 2022.

The line has stayed the same since.


I went to the other dealers, and one of them lied and said they would have an allocation in Jan; they took a 1000 dollar deposit. January passed, and no order number went to the dealer and found out that there had been at least another lady ahead of me since June of 2022. I got my deposit back.



I started looking at other states and the majority of the dealers; even though it shows in transit, the vehicle is fulfilling someone's order and is not available.


A dealer in AZ is getting 7 of them, and they are all called for, and the guy told me he has a waiting list that will go through the rest of 2023, if not 2024.



I found 2 Tahoes in California, and they are marked up by 5 thousand.


What I am failing to understand is that evidently, there is a huge demand for this vehicle, which could be profitable both for the dealers and GM, yet it does not seem like GM is doing anything to meet the demand. Please let me know if anyone knows a dealer with an allocation.

Thank you

 

[Polo08816]

I am from Las Vegas, and to say I am frustrated with the ordering process is an understatement.

I got in line with one dealer who has ten people ahead of me back in November of 2022.

The line has stayed the same since.


I went to the other dealers, and one of them lied and said they would have an allocation in Jan; they took a 1000 dollar deposit. January passed, and no order number went to the dealer and found out that there had been at least another lady ahead of me since June of 2022. I got my deposit back.



I started looking at other states and the majority of the dealers; even though it shows in transit, the vehicle is fulfilling someone's order and is not available.


A dealer in AZ is getting 7 of them, and they are all called for, and the guy told me he has a waiting list that will go through the rest of 2023, if not 2024.



I found 2 Tahoes in California, and they are marked up by 5 thousand.


What I am failing to understand is that evidently, there is a huge demand for this vehicle, which could be profitable both for the dealers and GM, yet it does not seem like GM is doing anything to meet the demand. Please let me know if anyone knows a dealer with an allocation.

Thank you

I think there's a still a decent amount of pent up demand for all full size 3 row 1/2 ton based SUVs. However, I would imagine GM is working hard to increase production capacity because it doesn't necessarily want to give up some of its market share to competitors (Ford, Wagoneer, and (distant) Toyota).

I'm adjusting my purchasing choices for 2024. I may end up choosing either the Ford F150, GMC Sierra 3500 SRW or Ford SD F-350 SRW in 2024 and put off a purchase o fa full size 1/2 ton based SUV to 2026-2028. That should be sufficient time for manufacturers to build enough production capacity to meet demand. Heck, they've done it for 1/2 ton pickups which are, arguably, over supplied at the moment.

 

[jthoske]

I'm just starting my order journey. Deposit paid Monday 2/20/23 for:

2023 Yukon Denali 4WD
White Frost Tri-Coat Exterior / Black Interior
3.0 Duramax
Sunroof
Adaptive Cruise Control
Black Nameplates

PPF, aftermarket wheels and tires, and front window tint upon delivery.

 

[Polo08816]

I think there's a still a decent amount of pent up demand for all full size 3 row 1/2 ton based SUVs. However, I would imagine GM is working hard to increase production capacity because it doesn't necessarily want to give up some of its market share to competitors (Ford, Wagoneer, and (distant) Toyota).

I'm adjusting my purchasing choices for 2024. I may end up choosing either the Ford F150, GMC Sierra 3500 SRW or Ford SD F-350 SRW in 2024 and put off a purchase o fa full size 1/2 ton based SUV to 2026-2028. That should be sufficient time for manufacturers to build enough production capacity to meet demand. Heck, they've done it for 1/2 ton pickups which are, arguably, over supplied at the moment.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/02/gm-to-pause-chevy-silverado-gmc-sierra-production-at-fort-wayne-plant/

GM is pausing production on its 1/2 ton pickups because they've reached 100 days of supply for inventory.

 

[StephenPT]

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/02/gm-to-pause-chevy-silverado-gmc-sierra-production-at-fort-wayne-plant/

GM is pausing production on its 1/2 ton pickups because they've reached 100 days of supply for inventory.

Local dealer was at $5K off MSRP on all 1/2 tons. Just checked a minute ago and they're up to $7.5K off - $10K off if you qualify for the loyalty rebate.

Makes you wonder if GM starts diverting resources to Arlington, SUV output will increase or if there's other factors that limit that plants output? It's a huge undertaking to retool a plant to make a new model, but I'm a bit surprised they don't have more than one plant building the SUV platform - there's 3 plants building the pickups right now...

 

[Polo08816]

Local dealer was at $5K off MSRP on all 1/2 tons. Just checked a minute ago and they're up to $7.5K off - $10K off if you qualify for the loyalty rebate.

Makes you wonder if GM starts diverting resources to Arlington, SUV output will increase or if there's other factors that limit that plants output? It's a huge undertaking to retool a plant to make a new model, but I'm a bit surprised they don't have more than one plant building the SUV platform - there's 3 plants building the pickups right now...

I agree that it will take too long to retool a plant for a new model - it's probably a subject that an industrial engineer would have better insight on.

I think the problem with 1/2 ton pickups is that there's sufficient competition and GM 1/2 tons just don't have the features that would make them stand out from the competition. There are some serious deficiencies relative to the competition such as a 24 gallon gas tank and Ford's factory 2.0kW inverter option is unique as a factory option.

Can GM's 3 plants that build the 1/2 ton pickup also build the HD pickup or are those different plants? Ford just closed ordering for 2023 Super Duty so that's an area where GM should aim to increase production if it's capable of doing so quickly.

 

[bk_Dmax]

Got an update from my dealer. Constraints are still showing on Max trailer and Advanced Tech/Reserve Packages. System has timeline of April. If I dropped those options I could place the order immediately for my XL Denali 3.0 Dmax. I'm holding out and waiting on the tech packages with hope the constraints drop sooner rather than later.

 

[todayusay]

I agree that it will take too long to retool a plant for a new model - it's probably a subject that an industrial engineer would have better insight on.

I think the problem with 1/2 ton pickups is that there's sufficient competition and GM 1/2 tons just don't have the features that would make them stand out from the competition. There are some serious deficiencies relative to the competition such as a 24 gallon gas tank and Ford's factory 2.0kW inverter option is unique as a factory option.

Can GM's 3 plants that build the 1/2 ton pickup also build the HD pickup or are those different plants? Ford just closed ordering for 2023 Super Duty so that's an area where GM should aim to increase production if it's capable of doing so quickly.

couple weekends ago took a 1000 mile "trip" and after taking a quick glance at most of the dealerships alongside the interstate as i zipped by...Ford seems to be only HD brand that doesn't have any trucks sitting on the lots. Ram dealers are hit and miss, but generally speaking most have a few new ones on the lot and GMC/Chevy lots are full of HDs. Even the smaller dealer may have 6-10 sitting there...

 

[pruittatl]

Got an update from my dealer. Constraints are still showing on Max trailer and Advanced Tech/Reserve Packages. System has timeline of April. If I dropped those options I could place the order immediately for my XL Denali 3.0 Dmax. I'm holding out and waiting on the tech packages with hope the constraints drop sooner rather than later.

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MAN.. this chart is nice, pretty cool that your dealer shared it with you! I would agree with what you and your dealership said as mine said the same around max trailering a few weeks ago when placing my order for denali xl w/ 3.0.. I was tired of waiting around and with our first baby on the way I decided to move forward without it.

 

[bk_Dmax]

MAN.. this chart is nice, pretty cool that your dealer shared it with you! I would agree with what you and your dealership said as mine said the same around max trailering a few weeks ago when placing my order for denali xl w/ 3.0.. I was tired of waiting around and with our first baby on the way I decided to move forward without it.

Yeah I hear that! Have time on our side so figured we could wait it out. Was pretty happy to see the dealer actually share tangible information. Half the time this constraint/allocation stuff sounds like complete voodoo.

 

[pruittatl]

YEP

 

[BrokerThis]

Here's a good one:

- Placed an order with a dealer August 2021, I was proactive with them asking for updates monthy and trying to get the national contraints spreadsheet as much as possible to share here
- Last communication I had with this dealer was May 2022, when they said I was next in line.
- 8 months later, yesterday the order manager emails me saying the stars have aligned for my order, but they still couldn't get airride/max-tow packages. To me, that's not the stars aligning on a 80k truck. Hahaha


I responded back letting them know I found a dealer to get my full specs allocation and I've had a rig for months. I mentioned with their lack of communication with me, I figured they just cancelled my order with the model year change over. They seemed like decent people but really left a bad taste in my mouth on the customer service side to where I won't go to them in the future.

 

[Punteh]

7 months after submitting an order for a Yukon XL Denali my salesman called today to tell me that it had finally been built and is now awaiting shipment! It's been quite the roller coaster ride over the past 7 months from looking country wide to try and find something available right away, to considering dropping trim levels to an AT4 or SLT, or going up to an Ultimate, to considering other makes, to dropping packages and options that initially were non negotiable, to considering giving up all together. Now I just have to wait for my Titanium Rush Denali to arrive!

 

[jmzvet]

I ordered my Yukon Denali Duramax 2wd two months ago. I received this email today.

“I'm excited to inform you that your order has been accepted for production. You will continue to receive updates from me via text. This email is simply to provide you with a copy of your accepted build.”

He estimates a mid May delivery date to me.
Does that seem accurate?

 

[ekordas]

I ordered my Yukon Denali Duramax 2wd two months ago. I received this email today.

“I'm excited to inform you that your order has been accepted for production. You will continue to receive updates from me via text. This email is simply to provide you with a copy of your accepted build.”

He estimates a mid May delivery date to me.
Does that seem accurate?

Depends on your location and distance from your local rail yard hub. I'm located in the southwest suburbs of Chicago and my dealers Yukon orders have been arriving three weeks after they are built. So take your TPW and add 3-4 weeks for delivery.

 

[ekordas]

Got an update from my dealer. Constraints are still showing on Max trailer and Advanced Tech/Reserve Packages. System has timeline of April. If I dropped those options I could place the order immediately for my XL Denali 3.0 Dmax. I'm holding out and waiting on the tech packages with hope the constraints drop sooner rather than later.

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My Yukon XL Denali Ultimate with 3.0L diesel order was entered for this exact production period (3/20-3/26) and I just found out today that it got bumped up to 3/6. Anyone else in this production period?

 

[pa31p]

Will keep the group posted!

Just ordered an Yukon SLT Duramax,
SLT Luxury package,
4WD, Sliding console. Tricoat paint. dealer still showed delays on max trailer so scrapped that option.

 

[CDONNS]

What are people seeing for Duramax availability? I'm planning to order a '23 Yukon XL with DM and the dealer is saying its almost impossible to get one, thinking about 12mo. out...

 

[ekordas]

What are people seeing for Duramax availability? I'm planning to order a '23 Yukon XL with DM and the dealer is saying its almost impossible to get one, thinking about 12mo. out...

Based on that latest constraint screenshot, the diesel is no longer on constraint. I've been waiting over a year for my diesel order to get accepted and my buddy's Suburban diesel order has been waiting almost 5 months. Both of our orders got accepted within the last three weeks. It may have something to do with the Sierra plant getting idled for a few weeks.

 

[pa31p]

Pickup truck market is in a significant downturn right now. hopefully it will help Yukon builds