Sprint booster detectable

[Reyetwinger]

Does anyone know if these Sprint Boosters leave any kind of footprint behind after they are removed? I know, I know, snake oil, get a tune Blah blah blah. I don't want to possibly give up my warranty by tuning it yet, and I don't want to fight with GM if they find it's been tuned. I just would like a more traditional feel to the throttle. Both my recent Tahoe's have a lazy throttle with the 5.3 and this seems like it would help that out. I think there is more to it than you getting the same result by just mashing your pedal to the floor quicker. I have seen a few videos showing how quick the throttle plate opens stock and with this thing hooked up and there is a difference no matter how quick you floor it stock. They don't have it as being compatible with 19/20's on their website yet and they haven't responded if it's traceable so far. Thank You in advance if someone can answer my question.

 

[WillCO]

Anything is possible with these computer controlled throttles. The Sprintbooster literally remaps the system to put 100% of the available throttle into the first ~40% of the pedal movement. Certainly that could be recorded.

Having said that, it would be pretty hard for GM to deny warranty coverage on the presence of a Sprintbooster, because the unit does nothing you could not do yourself by mashing the pedal more aggressively. That's my opinion.

Personally I tried a Sprintbooster on a BMW 5 series I had. The unit did exactly what it claimed to do, but it felt weird to me and I took it off. YMMV.

 

[Reyetwinger]

Thanks for the reply.

 

[BG1988]

Does anyone know if these Sprint Boosters leave any kind of footprint behind after they are removed? I know, I know, snake oil, get a tune Blah blah blah. I don't want to possibly give up my warranty by tuning it yet, and I don't want to fight with GM if they find it's been tuned. I just would like a more traditional feel to the throttle. Both my recent Tahoe's have a lazy throttle with the 5.3 and this seems like it would help that out. I think there is more to it than you getting the same result by just mashing your pedal to the floor quicker. I have seen a few videos showing how quick the throttle plate opens stock and with this thing hooked up and there is a difference no matter how quick you floor it stock. They don't have it as being compatible with 19/20's on their website yet and they haven't responded if it's traceable so far. Thank You in advance if someone can answer my question.

the gas peddle is tuned for saving fuel it's not the old sensor type 5up and 5 down that is used on the GMT800 series
(those sucked badly and had 1/2 to 3/4 second input lag time)


read the manual it tells you how it works... more then likely it's the same used on the GMT900 hybrid....


it has a Super Econ (DFCO ) , Econ mode and Power mode . that is the system it's built around... you will get used to it

 

[Reyetwinger]

Thanks. I guess reading the manual would probably be a good idea lol. I used to read them from cover to cover whenever I bought a new vehicle but now I haven't been doing that as it seems filled with a bunch of warnings and what not that are pretty obvious to me. I will check it out.

 

[WillCO]

the gas peddle is tuned for saving fuel it's not the old sensor type 5up and 5 down that is used on the GMT800 series
(those sucked badly and had 1/2 to 3/4 second input lag time)


read the manual it tells you how it works... more then likely it's the same used on the GMT900 hybrid....


it has a Super Econ (DFCO ) , Econ mode and Power mode . that is the system it's built around... you will get used to it

I wonder if people think the way they write. I hope not but the world tells me they do.

 

[BG1988]

I wonder if people think the way they write. I hope not but the world tells me they do.

only way to hit tighter EPA regulations on the mileage
what part of it don't you understand

they changed the way it works to help meet the newer requirements...

your just not used to it you might have been coming from the old system on the GMT800s or a vehicle with the "legacy system".

the configuration and response is different post 2007 model year yes i have test driven late models as well they are exactly the same feel. there is nothing wrong with it

it's not broken..



I driven many different GM cars and trucks/suvs


I test drove a chevy colorado, spark,volt Tahoes (several of them from 2007 to 2011 years...)
owned 2004 silverado and 2003 impala ,Tahoe 2009 XFE (returned) and my current 2008 tahoe



Cadillac XLR on loaner , 2006 silverado on loaner

as well as many other various vehicles such as toyota corolla, honda civic (two different model years) honda accord Chrysler 200..


The throttle response is true correct compared to the old first gen electronic throttle legacy system

the 2007 or higher( some older models have the newer system 2004+ excl GMT800) ,

the INPUT lag (time it takes for it to do anything) is near zero


while the GMT800 has too much input time on the brake and throttle system.. The risk of an accident is SIGNIFICANTLY higher because of that

compared to the gmt900 or higher...


get a OBD reader and you can see the throttle data it will help you adjust your self to it

 

[Fless]

I wonder if people think the way they write. I hope not but the world tells me they do.

Yup.

 

[BG1988]

good luck if you use it if you get caught with it in a accident, your in trouble.... it will be logged on the computer and Stored with On*


even if you remove the device the data will not be consistent with a normal data from other vehicles not sure if dealers can pull the onstar data that is also collected if they suspect something like that was used


they record at lest 30 seconds or more(might have changed to 1-3min on newer models)

They will know when they pull the freeze frame data From the Check Engine Code it shows the throttle position in the OBD data... if your going 30MPH with 50% throttle position they will know.. the calculated

throttle position is 31.8-32.5% at 35MPH cursing speed.. in D


unless you have a tool to modify the freeze frame data stored in the ECM, you would be screwed..

 

[Reyetwinger]

Trouble with Who? Why would I be in trouble if I were in an accident if I were not speeding or recklessly driving? If I'm driving 30 mph within a 35 mph speed zone at half throttle and someone hits me who am I in trouble with? Just curious of the thinking here. If you're talking about GM detecting it then I understand I will possibly be in trouble with my warranty. If it's any other kind of trouble then I don't get it.

 

[BG1988]

Trouble with Who? Why would I be in trouble if I were in an accident if I were not speeding or recklessly driving? If I'm driving 30 mph within a 35 mph speed zone at half throttle and someone hits me who am I in trouble with? Just curious of the thinking here.

they shift the blame to you duh

they will just claim you were using it for street racing , that is why you had the device installed

that is the only reason to have it
racing/track use also voids the warranty


if you want more power upgrade the rear end with something more beefed up 4.10 ratio or something or shorter(smaller) tires...

 

[Reyetwinger]

If I'm not street racing they can't convict me of street racing. I don't want more power out of something like this device, I was interested in a more responsive throttle. I can live with it the way it is but I would prefer the feel of a direct cable or linkage which is what I have driven the majority of my lifetime. This seemed like a simple device that might move the feel of the vehicle in that direction. If I am obeying the law at the moment someone hits me I am doing nothing wrong and that is what would stand up in a court of law if it ever came to that. By that logic anyone that has any performance modifications to their vehicle will be automatically convicted of racing in any accident anytime they are driving their modified vehicle. I'm not a lawyer but I don't believe that is how the law works. I actually think what you're talking about here with the stored settings after a crash would help solidify the fact that a person was only driving 30 mph and prevent you from being falsely accused of racing or reckless driving no matter what mods you had. That's my opinion. Again, I don't know if your talking about GM or the authorities. Why would GM have access to crash data when servicing your vehicle? I am confused. Forget it, I doubt I will buy the device anyway, I was just curious about it.

 

[WillCO]

they shift the blame to you duh

they will just claim you were using it for street racing , that is why you had the device installed

that is the only reason to have it

Absurd.

 

[BG1988]

buy it and use it.. see what happens

 

[wjburken]

buy it and use it.. see what happens

Would be willing to bet, from a legal stand point, absolutely nothing.

 

[BG1988]

Would be willing to bet, from a legal stand point, absolutely nothing.

it will void the warranty... if you did not read above they collect ECM data via 4G Lte when the engine is running.... they know how the vehicle is driven...

 

[Doubeleive]

Brent you are being ridiculous the only reason anyone would ever pull crash data from the airbag control module (where this data is stored) would be if you got in a accident and killed someone and got sued/blamed for it and then fought it in court yada yada, even getting that data would take a court order. Yes on the newer vehicles a crash report can be sent to onstar for emergency services but it ends there. they aren't sending data to your dealer in order to void your warranty if they were everyone with any "warranty voiding mods" would be screwed and it would be all over the internet. this isn't 1984 YET

 

[WillCO]

Most haters fall victim to thinking all throttle controllers are trash bc they "dont add any power" not realizing this is but one reason why SB doesnt void your factory warranty and/or "just mash the gas to get same effect" which is not only a pain in the *** and douchy but its just plain wrong.

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Sprint booster does NOT increase peak horsepower. It does not add any Hp thus zero effect on the powertrain whatsoever unlike a tune, headers, exhaust, SC etc. *This is another reason why SB doesn't void your warranty because no extra power. It just opens the throttle faster regardless of how fast you hit the gas. Dont believe me. Go to a stop light. Mash the gas with it off. Then do it again but in race mode level 9 and tell me what happens (chirp tires or quick tire roast).

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[NT Automotive]

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What's your question?

 

[WillCO]

What's your question?

No question really. You used a lot of words to say the same thing I said - SprintBoosters add no power, they just map the entirety of the throttle control to a smaller portion of the pedal travel. You implied I was "douchy" because I said you could get the same throttle effect by mashing the pedal aggressively all the way as you could by pressing it somewhat less with a SprintBooster on it.

Prove me wrong.