Electric Suburban / Electric Tahoe / Yukon / Escalade EV

[tungsten]

754 Horsepower! 785 lb-ft of torque!! It’s happening, GM is doing what it said it would do, move towards electric. It’s just a matter of time before the EV Tahoe/Suburban are introduced​

​

2024 GMC Sierra EV Eyes F-150 Lightning With Conventional Looks, Huge Power, Clever Midgate​

The 2024 Sierra EV Is GMC's Third EV, and Falls Right Between the Silverado EV and Hummer

GMC steadies its aim at Ford's electric F-150 Lightning.

www.motortrend.com

Assuming small interior again? I dont think any of the GM big wigs are over 6'.

 

[pwtr02ss]

I would def be interested in one of these when the time comes. I'm a Tesla fanboy but the X would be the only thing that would remotely be close enough to replace the Yukon. I don't Love the looks of the X though. Large SUV seems like a no brainer with all the space to pack batteries

 

[GMCnewbee]

I test drove a Hummer EV Edition 1 at my GMC Dealer. 1000hp, one pedal driving, rides and handles just fine. The vehicle technology is there and it is pretty amazing. It is the whole charging issue that will keep me waiting.

 

[DmaxDenaliXL]

I don't see full electric getting my attention until a next gen battery is utilized. Range, especially with respect to towing, is the main detractor for me. I'd be all about a plug in hybrid with ~75 miles of on board electric range and the 3.0L diesel coupled to a generator to keep batteries fed when range is exceeded or towing.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

So I went to the L.A. Auto Show today and saw the new electric Chevy pick up.... I was HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED. GM still hasn't learned that keeping their square wheel wells is more of a hindrance than helping. First off, the vehicle came standard with 24 inch wheels, and the tires appeared to be 35" (judging by the sidewall profile). There was also scalloped plastic body panels surrounding the wheels wells, and other areas on the vehicle that will certainly be identifiable in the future as a 2023 model... Honestly, I was so disgusted overall that I didn't even want take pictures. Even the spokesmodel showcasing the vehicle agreed with me on how ugly it was.

 

[Rocket Man]

So I went to the L.A. Auto Show today and saw the new electric Chevy pick up.... I was HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED. GM still hasn't learned that keeping their square wheel wells is more of a hindrance than helping. First off, the vehicle came standard with 24 inch wheels, and the tires appeared to be 35" (judging by the sidewall profile). There was also scalloped plastic body panels surrounding the wheels wells, and other areas on the vehicle that will certainly be identifiable in the future as a 2023 model... Honestly, I was so disgusted overall that I didn't even want take pictures. Even the spokesmodel showcasing the vehicle agreed with me on how ugly it was.

GM pickups and SUV’s have always had square wheel wells- why would you expect that to suddenly change because it’s electric? It’s a style that GM is known for. It also doesn’t hinder anything. I hate Fords round wheel wells, they look stupid imo.

 

[Polo08816]

I test drove a Hummer EV Edition 1 at my GMC Dealer. 1000hp, one pedal driving, rides and handles just fine. The vehicle technology is there and it is pretty amazing. It is the whole charging issue that will keep me waiting.

I don't see full electric getting my attention until a next gen battery is utilized. Range, especially with respect to towing, is the main detractor for me. I'd be all about a plug in hybrid with ~75 miles of on board electric range and the 3.0L diesel coupled to a generator to keep batteries fed when range is exceeded or towing.

+1.

I would consider an EV when they can get the range for towing to around 350-450 miles. When you factor in battery degradation over the course of the vehicle's life, I'll be interested when they have an unloaded optimal range around 1000+ miles on a single charge.

 

[WilliamMunny]

EVs have their place but it is a dead end technology.

They say we need to switch to EV because:
1. Pollution
2. Drilling for oil

EV:
1. The USA will need an entire new power grid to make it work. California for example is pushing hard for EV, but they can not power their homes with rolling power outages and fires. Now imagine everyone has an EV, gets home from work at 6 and plugs it in.
2. You will still need to drill and even strip mine for all these precious metals for the batteries. Not to mention China has the most rights and access to them.
3. See point 1, there will need to be a lot more Power generated and wind/solar will not be enough, at least in the next 20 years or more. This means more dirty power like coal will be needed.
3. Every 5-10 years you will now have a 300 pound toxic battery to get rid of from every car. Some say we will just recycle them… but the US can’t figure out how to reliably recycle a plastic bottle, good luck with that.
4. What about the millions of people who street park, how will they change.

Now I am not saying it could be a good solution for people with small commutes, post office trucks, ups, etc. But as far as everyone going electric to save the planet I don’t see it.

 

[randeez]

its very clear some of you dont ever plan to buy one, so why put up unrealistic expectations that cannot be met by a combustion engine either

 

[swathdiver]

Industry cannot mine the raw materials fast enough either. Just another political scam like global cooling, the ozone layer, etc.

I like the idea of a diesel electric drivetrain with traction motors at each wheel serving as the drive motor and brakes. We've been doing it on a larger scale since the 1930s with diesel locomotives and ships like destroyer escorts, fleet submarines and tug boats.

 

[WilliamMunny]

There's no reason why most people can't use an EV as a daily driver. My wife does 2 miles round trip to work. Her furthest commute is to our shore house about an hour away...even in summer traffic...1:30. There's no need for her to be in an Enclave and me in a Burb. An EV is fine. An EV for me is fine too really.

But those of you whom are skeptics, don't fret - gasoline will always be available. The naysayers love to claim that gas will go away 100% which is and will never be true, and that isn't included in the media's and politicians rhetoric...which leads to part of the problem and why it gets lost on a skeptical (and justly so) public. The idea is to shift the majority of commuters and transport machines(buses/trucks) that do short haul to electric/battery...and move toward solar so the power plants aren't burning coal to generate electricity.

Gasoline/Diesel will always be made available. Long haul trucking will need it. Locomotives will still need it. Millions of classic cars, motorcycles, etc will need it. Those of us that use a forum like this, are what the automotive industry considers "enthusiasts". 90% of us are not the targets of electric vehicles. Think of how many people use a car and buy it cause "its cheap" or the color, or "I like the way the headlights look". Those are the target audience for EV daily drivers. /rant

Think you nailed it, what the future will look like. Plus there are new technologies like hydrogen that are up and coming.

A hydrogen car, on waste was water, did a 24 hour road race. It had about 8 hours of down time but covered something like 1000 miles. I am not saying this is the answer but there are a lot of possibilities. I hope, considering all this hype and pressure to by EV to save the world, does not put too many of these other technologies on the back burner. I mean what’s wrong with plug in hybrids, best of both worlds. Imagine if all the EV money was put into hydrogen or hybrid tech.

 

[Geotrash]

Think you nailed it, what the future will look like. Plus there are new technologies like hydrogen that are up and coming.

A hydrogen car, on waste was water, did a 24 hour road race. It had about 8 hours of down time but covered something like 1000 miles. I am not saying this is the answer but there are a lot of possibilities. I hope, considering all this hype and pressure to by EV to save the world, does not put too many of these other technologies on the back burner. I mean what’s wrong with plug in hybrids, best of both worlds. Imagine if all the EV money was put into hydrogen or hybrid tech.

Totally agree with both of you.

And I'll add that a plug-in hybrid would be the perfect solution for us if we could get it in a full-sized SUV like the Yukon XL's we currently have. My wife and I both work from home, so we need a vehicle that's good for long-ish trips to places we often go, like Cape Cod, OBX, and the mountain west. And it needs to be able to pull a 7500 lb camper on the weekends.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

GM pickups and SUV’s have always had square wheel wells- why would you expect that to suddenly change because it’s electric? It’s a style that GM is known for. It also doesn’t hinder anything. I hate Fords round wheel wells, they look stupid imo.

The vast majority of vehicles on the road (globally) have rounded wheel wells... it kind of compliments the whole "round tire" thing. I understand GM has a history of square wells, but for those wanting to customize their vehicles with aftermarket wheels, having that square cut out shape limits your choices... that's why offroad truck enthusiasts gravitate more towards Ford and Ram pick-up trucks to modify than GM.

Me personally, I don't like fitting round pegs in square holes. But I will tell you that I got really lucky when GM designed the newer generation SUV's. The wheel wells were round enough that I could shave off some fender to fit my wheels without it looking like @$$.

 

[Rocket Man]

The vast majority of vehicles on the road (globally) have rounded wheel wells... it kind of compliments the whole "round tire" thing. I understand GM has a history of square wells, but for those wanting to customize their vehicles with aftermarket wheels, having that square cut out shape limits your choices... that's why offroad truck enthusiasts gravitate more towards Ford and Ram pick-up trucks to modify than GM.

Me personally, I don't like fitting round pegs in square holes. But I will tell you that I got really lucky when GM designed the newer generation SUV's. The wheel wells were round enough that I could shave off some fender to fit my wheels without it looking like @$$.

Lol guys have been lifting and bagging Chevy trucks since the 50’s without too much issue. There’s no limit to your choices either. If you don’t like it, buy a Ford. But to expect GM to completely throw out their trademark look because suddenly it’s electric? That look is what sets GM trucks apart. I have a friend with an ‘18 3500 HD Silverado Duramax lifted on 42’s and I have a bagged and bodied 08 tucking 26” billet wheels with zero issues. My 02 Denali daily runs 22”reps and at one time I ran 26’s and it’s lowered 2/4. You just have to know what to do and really, it’s not that hard unless it’s a truck like my Silverado, that’s a whole different story. A tiny bit of massaging to the inner fender liners if you’re lowered. If you’re lifted and they rub, lift it a bit more.

 

[olyelr]

The vast majority of vehicles on the road (globally) have rounded wheel wells... it kind of compliments the whole "round tire" thing. I understand GM has a history of square wells, but for those wanting to customize their vehicles with aftermarket wheels, having that square cut out shape limits your choices... that's why offroad truck enthusiasts gravitate more towards Ford and Ram pick-up trucks to modify than GM.

Me personally, I don't like fitting round pegs in square holes. But I will tell you that I got really lucky when GM designed the newer generation SUV's. The wheel wells were round enough that I could shave off some fender to fit my wheels without it looking like @$$.

Pfffff wtf haaaaaaa….

Looks like you should have stuck with a late 60s or early 70s gmc.

 

[GTNator]

Americans Used to Celebrate the Future. Now Many Seem Afraid of It.​

Americans Used to Celebrate the Future. Now Many Seem Afraid of It.

What happened to America's obsession with progress?

www.motortrend.com

 

[BlaineBug]

Americans Used to Celebrate the Future. Now Many Seem Afraid of It.​

Americans Used to Celebrate the Future. Now Many Seem Afraid of It.

What happened to America's obsession with progress?

www.motortrend.com

When the future is $hitty globalism and "you will own nothing and be happy" please don't criticize those who don't champion their slavery and loss of liberty. I wonder who wrote that article - proponents of The World Economic Forum or the UN, perhaps?

 

[MikeBoom]

Not a fan of the idea. I’ve long been one to jump in the car (or on a motorcycle) and cover hundreds of miles per day. There is simply no way that we’re anywhere close to being ready for an all-electric private transportation model. On a trip last summer, I saw EV owners camped out on folding chairs, waiting to achieve a full charge. In the amount of time they were sitting there on their thumbs, hundreds of cars and trucks would have come through and fully refueled (It takes, what, five minutes or so?).

Apart from the huge number of charging stations and the leap in technology that will be required to truly fast recharging, there’s the issue of our grid’s fragility and capacity. Just last week utilities in the South were implementing rolling blackouts to accommodate the home usage demands of a significant storm. Brownouts and blackouts are common in SoCal, and last year FERC told those of us in the Midwest that we were at high risk of power outages.

Maybe someday, but wholesale conversion is presently unachievable and unwise.

 

[DuraYuk]

Not a fan of the idea. I’ve long been one to jump in the car (or on a motorcycle) and cover hundreds of miles per day. There is simply no way that we’re anywhere close to being ready for an all-electric private transportation model. On a trip last summer, I saw EV owners camped out on folding chairs, waiting to achieve a full charge. In the amount of time they were sitting there on their thumbs, hundreds of cars and trucks would have come through and fully refueled (It takes, what, five minutes or so?).

Apart from the huge number of charging stations and the leap in technology that will be required to truly fast recharging, there’s the issue of our grid’s fragility and capacity. Just last week utilities in the South were implementing rolling blackouts to accommodate the home usage demands of a significant storm. Brownouts and blackouts are common in SoCal, and last year FERC told those of us in the Midwest that we were at high risk of power outages.

Maybe someday, but wholesale conversion is presently unachievable and unwise.

Most Evs fast charge now. 20 mins or so max. So not terrible.

It's coming whether we want it or not, that much is clear.

As for the issues in Texas that is largely the privatized power companies fault when they didn't make the investment into cold weather resilience.

Range is getting better and better. Same with battery longevity. Personally I don't see the future as all ev but a combination of ways to get to zero emmisions including hydrogen combustion and hybrid drive trains.

 

[BlaineBug]

Most Evs fast charge now. 20 mins or so max. So not terrible.

It's coming whether we want it or not, that much is clear.

As for the issues in Texas that is largely the privatized power companies fault when they didn't make the investment into cold weather resilience.

Range is getting better and better. Same with battery longevity. Personally I don't see the future as all ev but a combination of ways to get to zero emmisions including hydrogen combustion and hybrid drive trains.

20 minutes! Where are you getting this bologna from??