Adding a subwoofer & Stereo

[SpareParts]

I have messed with that and it does not fade front to back like a normal set up would do. Because Bose amp. That setting will adjust the sound volume between the tweeters and front door speakers but has 0 effect on the rear speakers.
I have read that the Bose LUX amp only has a LT/RT input from a Bose radio. The amp is what splits it all up to the individual speakers. I dunno?
The control of the amp is a digital signal for FT/LT/RT/Rear/Sub.
The PAC interface takes the analog signal and converts it to digital. So without the PAC interface providing a digital fade signal it can't have fade.
Even though the stereo provides all the channels, the PAC module somehow combines them all to give you LT/RT/Sub. That's it, The amp is only seeing a 3rd of what the stereo can do.
Anyway, that is the way i understand it and i admit i could be wrong.
Best solution would be new speakers and amp and get away from Bose altogether.
I can't do that right now. My best solution is a different interface for now that supports fade.

 

[homesick]

To be honest, I'd be stunned if your head unit does not have a fader control. Perhaps, you have just not found where it is located yet?

Take a look at these instructions, and see if you can find the fader using them.

The ATOTO X10 offers a highly adjustable set of audio controls, including the ability to fine-tune sound distribution using the fader control.
Here's how to access the fader control:

Open the settings menu: Locate and tap the "Settings" or gear icon on your ATOTO X10's main interface.

Navigate to audio settings: Within the settings menu, look for an option related to "Audio", "Sound", or "Equalizer".

Locate the fader control: Within the audio or equalizer settings, you should find a control specifically labeled "Fader" or "Balance/Fader".

The fader control will likely be represented by a visual slider or a diagram allowing you to drag a point to adjust the sound between the front and rear speakers.

Adjust the fader to send more sound to the front or back speakers, according to your preference.

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For the individual relative speaker volumes, you can adjust the preamp setting for each speaker to get the overall balance that you want as a baseline. You can adjust the relative frequency ranges using the equalizer controls.

Are you saying that you can give each speaker its own, individual, shared-with-no-other, EQ settings?

That's crazy talk.

joe

 

[SpareParts]

Not sure. I'll check out if i can in a while.

 

[Doubeleive]

Been a couple of days now and here are a few things i like/dislike
Love all the adjustability! WAY more settings thin i can use with the Bose Y91/UQA amp. That's ok though as ill be upgrading amp's speakers in the future.
I did not think it was a big deal, but no fader suc**. The sound is too far forward for my liking. The tweeters and center channel are too loud slightly. Maybe i need to play with the settings more? The Bose amp can not take advantage of everything the stereo can do so probably a waste of time.
The over all sound is a LOT better though. Seems to have a lot more fullness or depth, im not sure how to describe it, it's just better.
SWC Works perfect once the stereo is set.
The PAC interface works perfect and does what it is advertised to do. Makes everything pretty much plug and play once all the stereo wires are soldered to it.
I think 99% of the folks putting in an aftermarket stereo will want the Maestro RR interface if for nothing else the fade function. I will be getting a Maestro RR in the near future.
I know it sounds wrong, but the ATOTO stereo is a decent quality Chinese unit. I think this one is my 4th and never had a problem with any of them, 3 S8's and now the new X10.
Anyway, All i got for now.

the maestro rr also allows you to keep the bose dsp

 

[Doubeleive]

So, now I am considering getting a 4ch amp to run my new door speakers. How can I keep the factory sub working?

you can patch a amp in at the speaker wires at the bose amp.
you can also simply leave the bose amp and sub intact (for oem subwoofer function)
and lastly there is very little room for improvement in the factory sub location, you would have better luck adding one to the old subwoofer location (driver side rear kickpanel) then you could fit a half way decent 10" in there, you would just need to do a little modification.

 

[Tonyv__]

currently looking at the Atoto website and it’s overwhelming lol

 

[SpareParts]

It's kind of retarded unless you know exactly what you're looking for. Then again, a lot of websites are that way.

 

[Joseph Garcia]

Are you saying that you can give each speaker its own, individual, shared-with-no-other, EQ settings?

That's crazy talk.

joe

No.

You can adjust the pre-amp gain for each individual speaker and subwoofer to get 'equal' spatial volume to your ear.

You can adjust the time delay on the preamp for each individual speaker (via a distance to your ear input). Sounds silly, I know, but it actually makes a difference.

You can adjust the upper cut-off frequency for the subwoofer, the lower cut-in and upper cut-off frequency for your midrange speakers, and the lower cut-in frequency for your tweeters.

Your equalizer operates independently from the above across all channels.

 

[SpareParts]

^^^ What he said^^^
There are a LOT of adjustments for sound and will take me weeks to get it good. Right now it's ok but still better than the stock HU.
I purchased a Maestro interface so once i have that installed i can get to some real tuning the sound in im sure.

 

[homesick]

No.

You can adjust the pre-amp gain for each individual speaker and subwoofer to get 'equal' spatial volume to your ear.

You can adjust the time delay on the preamp for each individual speaker (via a distance to your ear input). Sounds silly, I know, but it actually makes a difference.

You can adjust the upper cut-off frequency for the subwoofer, the lower cut-in and upper cut-off frequency for your midrange speakers, and the lower cut-in frequency for your tweeters.

Your equalizer operates independently from the above across all channels.

Well that's a relief.

joe

 

[Tonyv__]

Here it is looking final install, but it's not.
I have to take it back out and turn the Bose amp gain up on the PAC interface. Did not think to check that before i put it in.View attachment 463551

Does the screen on yours slide up and down or is it fixed in place?

My hvac controls are above the radio and this looks like it would interfere unless the screen slides down

 

[SpareParts]

Not exactly slide.
The bracket's on each side have several holes to move up and down but i don't know if it would be enough down for your situation.
Atoto sells a single din X10 that i would think could go low enough?
I used the DD install option, i dunno why, but i was able to make it sit almost perfect.

 

[SpareParts]

From looking at interior pics of 2015 Yukon's (if your sig is correct) i don't think a 10in screen would work?
Looks like you need a 7in or maybe a 9in version.

 

[Tonyv__]

From looking at interior pics of 2015 Yukon's (if your sig is correct) i don't think a 10in screen would work?
Looks like you need a 7in or maybe a 9in version.

Express van lol.

I’m leaning more towards the s8 but they offer it in 9 and 10”

 

[SpareParts]

S8 Premium is pretty nice. That was my last one.
The only reason i went with the X10 was because of all the adjustment options and it has 2 SUB outputs.
The S8 only has 1 low level sub output.
I bet you can put a 7, 9, 10in in there if single din. My express is nearly the same but 1999.

 

[Tonyv__]

S8 Premium is pretty nice. That was my last one.
The only reason i went with the X10 was because of all the adjustment options and it has 2 SUB outputs.
The S8 only has 1 low level sub output.
I bet you can put a 7, 9, 10in in there if single din. My express is nearly the same but 1999.

I had this 10” before but the screen moved freely up and down and tilted.. so I know a 10 will fit but just need to know how flexible it is. (Terrible quality radio btw)

I was looking at the x10 because apparently it has a built in recorder for front facing cameras. But I’m still on the fence about the whole dash cam thing. I think I’m a pretty good driver but I don’t think insurance would feel the same.

I think the s8 would suffice my needs.

 

[SpareParts]

Totally spaced it. I did get the front cam with my X10. Pretty decent picture from all the ones i have seen. I'll try to post a screenshot in a little bit.

 

[SpareParts]

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[Tonyv__]

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It records? Are you using an sd card?

 

[SpareParts]

It records and if the shock sensor is tripped it locks the video. I am using a 128GB thumb drive.
Maybe ill post a vid so you can see.
The recorded videos are 1 minute at a time and slightly overlaps by a sec or two.
I do need to reposition my mounting point.