ZZ4 Cam & More Install!! :)

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Well my 99 has been going under a few modifications both performance and visual lately so once I get all my pictures organized I'm going to be ******* them out soon! :roflsquared:

This will be thread on the performance side of things. To start I have a 99 Yukon with 5.7, 4l60e, 3.73s. So far here's whats been done:

-Blackbear Tune, light transmission increase, 91 octane
-Pacesetter longtubes, egr, cat, muffler delete, with 3" duals into single 2.5" single exit
-Modified intake with Napa filter
-Thottle body blade mod
-Transgo HD2 shift kit with vette servo
-fresh t case rebuild with MA pump upgrade

Now that I'm in engines class I'm going internal.
-ZZ4 crate engine camshaft (208/221 dur. 474/510 lift 112 lsa)
-Comp Cams 918 beehive springs 787 retainers
-Comp Cams roller tipped rockers, (1.6 intake/1.52 exhaust ratios)
-New Manley valves (1.94" int/ bigger 1.6" exh)
-Singler roller Cloyes timing chain & sprockets
-Upgraded MFI assembly
~possibly jantzer ported TB

These are the pics I have so far of progress. I will be updating this until complete and with a review of the performance! Hopefully you guys enjoy this as much as me haha. Will answer any questions to the best of my knowledge and any input is greatly appreciated.

Here's some of my thoughts. ZZ4 cam should work well and is within capabilities of stock torque converter. Other options I threw around were the HT383 cam and LT4 hot cam, The zz4 is in the middle of those. More of a lower torque solid midrange power but not as much as top end as hot cam. Also should have a smooth idle ( as much as i love choppy lope i want it to sound stock) and no reduction of vacuum, ZZ4 has a wider lobe separation than stock cam and am hoping for a well mannered cruising daily driver that will have power when wanted.

With my choice of different ratio rockers... the cam duration is a 208/221 and .474/.510 lift. 1.6 intake will bring it to a more even .505/.510 and I think this should work well with the great flowing vortecs intake side. The 1.6" exhaust valves and lontube headers will help the flow on the exhaust and the long 221 duration and .510 lift IMO will work nice together on the 1.52 ratio. I am in no way a expert at this stuff yet but I am learning, hence why I am going to college and not just going to work in the oil field like all my friends here :p

Here is the start of the process.
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Intake off
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Manifold has some varnish, and ports are carboned up pretty good.
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Cylinder Heads off
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Instructor was impressed how good of shaped cylinders and pistons are in, guess I lucked out haha. Also this was my grandparents vehicle before me so I know for a fact it was never rodded on, except when I was younger my grandma did a wicked launch on a gravel road to show me that she could have fun haha!
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manifold assembly will get cleaned up
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Heads disassembled and beadblasted chambers, all was checked for cracks, none were found. Mine are the 062 castings.
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Beadblasted rest of heads to clean them up. One head had some warpage, about .005". Also exhaust valves were getting worn that's why I went with 1.6" valves and insert seats Intake valves looked good just the margin was gettin too slim for my liking. Heads were sent to machine shop to get flat milled .010" for flatness and help raise compression slightly.
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yep...
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Was gonna replace oil pan gasket and since I was this far I thought it'd just be easier to remove block for cam removal/install. Also will be able to check necessary measurements and clearances for heads and what not with engine out.
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Here is the new shiny ZZ4 cam next to stock one
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Got lower manifold all cleaned up!
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Valve covers and pan will be blasted and painted fresh black
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New comp cams roller tipped rockers, IMO the classic logo looks badass
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Removed old block heater, will be putting new one in for insurance
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Got some screw in rocker arm studs too.
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Got heads back from machine shop!
Like said before, milled .010", new exhaust seats for 1.6 valves, also will be installing the screw in studs so stud bosses will need to be ground down a few hundred thousandths, valve guides will be cut for retainer to seal clearance too.
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Size compare new 1.6" valves to old 1.5"
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New seats
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Researched a little and am doing just a slight bowl blend and smoothing ports. Sorry I dont know how to draw on pics to show what I'm doing, hopefully you'll see. Heres before...
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and after
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and heres intake side
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Just going by my eye and feeling every port and comparing to each other I'm just grinding down the ridges and high spots.

Also ground down rough sharp edges on lower manifold.
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Also "deburred" or smoothed the edges of combustion chamber from the milling process
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Whole lotta shiny
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old left, new right (exhaust)
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old right, new left (intake)
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Cam going in along with new Cloyes roller chain and 3 keyway adjustable.
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I first set timing with 4 degrees advanced, I've searched all over and people like to advance these apparently. The cam didn't come with a cam card or anything so I did some searching deep down and found some specs to go off of. Also instructor has been a great deal of help.
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I degree'd my cam and found intake centerline at 104 degrees, which means the cam has 4 degrees advance ground into it. So I reinstalled the components straight up. Degree'd it again and got a 108 int centerline, and 116 exh centerline.

Also when degreeing a roller cam, use roller lifters haha. Woops
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Got these beadblasted
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Disassembled all the lifters and soaked them in carb cleaner, rinsed em off, cleaned with solvent and than brake cleaner, and blew em off with air. Inspected each and everyone. Normally one would just replace these but this is a "budget" build. Instructor also said with his experience the GM performance lifters are better than aftermarket such as Comp.
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Found this makes for easy installation of the lock spring or whatever it's called
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All back together
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My truck really woke up with my cam. You will love it. Get a stall to go with it, along with a tranny cooler.
 
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The deck is cleaned up and sanded for heads. And once all together I will try to clean up the block etc best I can to rid all the built up grease dirt and oil.

Big Buttons, what size cam did you go with out of curiosity? Also I've read all over the ZZ4 is stock converter friendly.
 

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I have a NBS with the 5.3 so cam specs are waaaay different between our trucks. But I went with a .607/.614 219/227 112LSA with double valve springs. I drove with my OEM stall for about 5 months before I swapped to a 3000 stall just 2 weeks ago. It drove like stock with the OEM stall in, and now under normal throttle it's almost the same, but when I get on it rpms come up quick and just screams.
 

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what kind of numbers are you shooting for with this build? cant wait to see her done.
I just followed you on instagram.
 
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Torque is what I'm more aimed at anyways to get the beast movin.

And with power I'm hoping for around ~350 hp crank, and ~425 torque. You guys think a 100 hp increase is possible from all this? I've read the intake manifold is the limiting factor with the spider assembly being in the manifold and non upgradeable injectors, unless you wanna spend mad cash. But other than that I think I'm on the right track. Exhaust is done, Intake (besides manifold), heads and cam, only other thing would be stroker.... or convert to carb which I won't do to this.
 
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I have a Blackbear traditional tune, I had emailed them and asked if they have any experience with the ZZ4 and they have done a good number of them so I'm hoping I will have a good starting point. This summer once I get money flowing again I might pay a little extra to do their scan cable tune to get a more custom map for my mods.

Damn college.. :okay2:
 
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Congrats! I'm in my second year at NDSCS and will be doing a 3rd year of diesel and heavy duty applications for the master tech program. And than possibly another year at Northwest Technical College in Bemidji MN for high performance engine machinist.

Can never know too much! :)
 

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Im going to watch your build closely, I may go down the same road as you next year when I get my bonus from work. What do you have in it total if I can ask?
 
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Ohh I got my receipts somewhere. Ill gather em and give you and estimate. Most has been ordered through summit and other small things through our school parts room.

Also im not paying for labor and machining im doing. Machine shop bill is charged to my RO for class.
 

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I see you don't have a camlock plate, I too like to live dangerously! LOL
 
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But basils! I put a little red threadlock mo-jo booster on my bolts sometimes! ;) haha

In seriousness a cam lock plate would have been a good idea though :/
 

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