NaomiSays
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Torque management question
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TheFuzz
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Naomi, may I ask where you got that table from? Granted my experience rooting around with tables in EFI live is somewhat limited, but that does NOT seem right for a regular Tahoe or Suburban...at least not based on the tables I've seen before.
Perhaps Jenna can chime in with her opinion on this, she'd be a far better judge of that table's accuracy that I am.
Perhaps Jenna can chime in with her opinion on this, she'd be a far better judge of that table's accuracy that I am.
IMO, there's a big difference between the TM being throttled back and not being able to pull a boat out of the water. Is there any reason why they couldn't re-flash the tcu just to make sure there's not a problem there? How does the truck do when towing the boat on flat ground from a stop? Is it actually hard to get moving? Well, good luck man.
Yeah, there's no way that's right. I would "guess" that 1st gear would be around 60-70%. But not less than 1%. The truck wouldn't move......
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NaomiSays
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First of all yes this is a stock table from your generation truck. The reason you can't see it is because you do not have a workshop version edition. And like you said your experience is very limited which is why you should trust me, the person who knows what she is talking about. If you want advice please don't knock down the correct answers. I went out of my way to open the file and find the one you want, so a thank you would be more appropriate.
TheFuzz
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What's with the attitude? Not necessary...especially as a brand new forum member who's trying to drum up business. Not all of us are complete idiots when it comes to EFI Live and reading tables. On top of that, you DO NOT need a workshop edition of the software to view the stock throttle tables, the software is available for free on EFI Live's website for anyone to use and access and works just fine. I literally just looked about a half hour ago, sitting in my truck.
I was basing my post off of the fact that for 2007-2009, the throttle percentages are 100% across the board for the 5.3. The delay, for whatever reason GM decided to put it in, was introduced in 2010. Be that as it may, the data you posted still isn't accurate for a 5.3 Tahoe, even a 2012 like the OP owns...at least not based on what I'm looking at. Besides that, the chart only tells you the rate at which the throttle opens, not the maximum amount of total throttle % allowed. I have a 2007 (so admittedly that is what I'm familiar with), hence my question asking you to clarify. I wasn't trying to be an ass, I was asking you to clarify what vehicle the data came from...and you come back with a rude and dismissive post essentially calling me a moron?
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Yup, I pretty much thought the same thing was directed at me too. Not only that, but your post asking for more info was not in the least bit rude or "questioning" per se. Seems like NaomiSays has a chip on her shoulder being a female in a male dominated industry. A little piece of advice there miss attitude, read the questions/comments for what they're worth and don't automatically assume someone is thinking to themselves "What does this chick know about anything". Most folks, especially on this board that I've seen, give respect where it is earned and due.
BTW, I'm sure the owner of MJE would love to know that you started off with a bang on an entire forum that is already a fan of BB. That will get you some market share for sure.
carshius
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Deleted my post as it was unnecessary...
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back on subject . Something definitely is not right here unless the ramp is really steep or you're pulling a 10k+ boat. I've had zero issues with mine.
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I've seen this problem before. Buy a Ford and that should take care of it
MJEngineering
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Op did not say a model year so I grabbed a file from a 5.3 tahoe of this generation that shows typical throttle restrictions and sent it to Naomi to use. Even in cases where the restrictions in this table are less than this they can be found elsewhere in the program. I stand behind her original answer that there is a lot of power management in that area and a noticeable difference in performance comes from eliminating these interferences. I also stand behind her other comments as she was rudely addressed even after working to help answer someone. As far as answering a lot of threads that is her job and she does know much more more about these matters than most members. She is due respect and will continue to prove it, your judgement of her life style etc is not needed here.
We apologize for any miscommunication on our part.
We apologize for any miscommunication on our part.
Mike, thank you for replying to the thread. I understand your willingness to defend the posts that Naomi made when trying to help. I did not however see any rude post towards Naomi on here before she pretty much came unglued and told one of the posters that "yes, you don't know as much as I do, so you should take my word for it". And then expect a thank you....That is where the rudeness started. A legitimate question was asked and all that was needed was, "I pulled this from this place, or I received the file from Mike when I asked for it". Not the BS that was spouted.
Regardless, It's nice to see you coming here to try to clear the air. Folks here are just trying to get info. Something is wrong with the OP's truck, and to tell them that they need a $500 tune to fix it is not true. Same as a comment of "you must have a tune if you want to run a CAI. Not true one bit. Anyway, I'm out. Thanks again for posting though (Not being sarcastic either).
Regardless, It's nice to see you coming here to try to clear the air. Folks here are just trying to get info. Something is wrong with the OP's truck, and to tell them that they need a $500 tune to fix it is not true. Same as a comment of "you must have a tune if you want to run a CAI. Not true one bit. Anyway, I'm out. Thanks again for posting though (Not being sarcastic either).
splinter
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No thanks. Wouldn't want to put you out.
In spite of your "Professional 2-Way Tuning For Street, Race or Offroad" offer I elected to go with Black Bear.
The results have been outstanding and he's a fine gent.
OT, but yes she was very rude and her response was uncalled for. the poster simply asked where she got the table from, like someone was challenging her, her response was defensive. If she wants respect, she has to earn it.... its not just given to you because you a a forum vendor...
I have been part of many forums for different vehicles and I have ran into some vendors that are utterly clueless.
Wow, this thread came back after 16 months of silence! I'm curious how it worked out for the OP, that problem wasn't some stock torque management issue, it was a problem that had to be diagnosed and fixed.
I see that Mike of MJ Engineering stayed active here, but Naomi disappeared not long after this thread. Not someone that could be useful with that defensive attitude, too bad that was the first impression of the company because it turned a lot of people off.
I see that Mike of MJ Engineering stayed active here, but Naomi disappeared not long after this thread. Not someone that could be useful with that defensive attitude, too bad that was the first impression of the company because it turned a lot of people off.
Hey guys and gals - OP here. After it started to get a little heated, I figured I got as much information out of the thread as I was going to get. 
To answer the last post, we never did figure it out. The dealership pretty much stated it was the TM and that was that. Any other work was going to come out of my pocket, unless there was a catastrophic failure. Since then I have been through a 2011 Avalanche and have landed on the 2011 Yukon Denali with the 6.2. The Tahoe just never did seem to cut it pulling much. I agree something seemed off, but I wasn't about to keep battling it out, when the truck was fine for most uses people would have. I traded it in on the Avalanche. It struggled up the hills with the boat, so we ultimately ended up with the Denali, which I am extremely happy with. It tows very well. Pic attached of the boat for reference. 23 foot boat. I am guessing around 6k total weight with fuel and gear. I don't have any current pics of the denali, sorry.
To answer the last post, we never did figure it out. The dealership pretty much stated it was the TM and that was that. Any other work was going to come out of my pocket, unless there was a catastrophic failure. Since then I have been through a 2011 Avalanche and have landed on the 2011 Yukon Denali with the 6.2. The Tahoe just never did seem to cut it pulling much. I agree something seemed off, but I wasn't about to keep battling it out, when the truck was fine for most uses people would have. I traded it in on the Avalanche. It struggled up the hills with the boat, so we ultimately ended up with the Denali, which I am extremely happy with. It tows very well. Pic attached of the boat for reference. 23 foot boat. I am guessing around 6k total weight with fuel and gear. I don't have any current pics of the denali, sorry.
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Thanks for following up Jeff. Nice boat! I tow a 21' ski boat with my Tahoe, I figure 4,500 lbs. total, and it pulls it easily. Your boat is obviously quite a bit heavier at 6,000 lbs. total, so I can see the 6.2 doing the job for you better, though still would have expected the Avalanche to tow it ok. I'm guessing you do more boarding than skiing with that boat.
Here's mine behind the Tahoe:
Here's mine behind the Tahoe:
Yea I would say that something was a miss. I towed my 8.5X20ft V-nose with out a problem with my Tahoe. Empty it weighs 4100lbs. but when I moved the whole set weighed 17K. Yea I know thats a lot more than i should have towed with the Tahoe, but it pulled the trailer from SC to NV with out a problem. But I was not in a hurry and didn't push the truck. I never plan to do that again just so you all know.
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