Dantheman1540
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Ouch that hurts to know! But I guess at the same time its a relief because now it should hold together. I agree they should clearly specify not to use RTV.
Rocket Man's 02 Denali Build Thread AKA "THE BEAST"
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Ouch that hurts to know! But I guess at the same time its a relief because now it should hold together. I agree they should clearly specify not to use RTV.
Tonyrodz
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So are they still going to warranty you out? That sux, but at least you know what happened now.
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I don’t know yet but after that discovery I would be real surprised if they do. And yeah I think I’m feeling better about the future with it. The first time this happened, it was at WOT on a hard launch racing a Subaru STi off the line and when it hit second (REAL hard) I heard a terrible noise and that time it grenaded the thing so bad that it killed the engine and I couldn’t even start it up, things were locked up. At that time they must not have discovered the blocked passage, probably because things were such a mess. Ryan said he’s sure I’d still be on the road if it wasn’t for the silicone causing the servo to not release and I have no reason not to believe him. I have done some reading on these passages for the servos on the pan rails and it’s a thing. Do NOT use RTV to install a pan gasket on an automatic trans or you could cause big problems. I did not know, who would have thought. BTW I beat the Subie until I hit second.
That’s very interesting to know, about the RTV and the Subie! Hopefully you won’t get charged for the tranny needing to get fixed and won’t have any future issues with it!
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Dantheman1540
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I forget how much boost are you running? 7psi right?
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Yeah 7-8. But like Blackbear told me, with my cam and headers I’m flowing more air so boost doesn’t tell the whole story. Less restriction means more volume at less pressure. One day I’ll have it ran on an AWD dyno to get some numbers. I know I’m at the limit on the 72 lb/ hr injectors I’m running so that’s considerable. I tried to move up to the next smaller pulley and at 10-11 psi my injectors were at 100% duty cycle before WOT so I had to go back to the pulley I’m at now.
Tonyrodz
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Gonna change the injectors?
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No. The next step would be a lot of work. Besides the fact that to install new injectors means pulling the blower due to Whipple’s design, I need dual fuel pumps, a 2 bar tune which is a bunch of work involving a different setup including removing the MAF and I don’t even remember what all else that Justin said. Plus then I’d just end up breaking more stuff like transfer cases, rear ends, drive lines etc. I just want reliable at this point, the power is fine.
Dantheman1540
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Oh yeah for sure boost is only a measure of back pressure. Maxing 72lb/hr injectors is pretty substantial I wont dare try to guess a power number but roots style blowers like that are extra harsh on stuff. There is an excel spread sheet that takes engine size, blower size, boost level and rpm to give a rough estimate on power and parasitic loss.
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Holy twistaroo.
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Meh, a lil’ gorilla glue and you’ll be set...
Tonyrodz
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DAYUUUMMM!! That ***** is BROKED!!
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It might be ok to use just a tiny bit between the gasket and pan. Obviously I didn’t. I do not remember but he sent pics of it. I have no reason to doubt what he’s telling me, and from what I’ve read lately, it’s definitely something you don’t want to do with an automatic trans. Oil pan, yes at the places it’s supposed to go. Diff covers, it depends on the gasket. But if you read up on transmissions it’s definitely something you don’t want to do. There’s small passages where the fluid drains back into the pan from the servos and if they’re blocked the servos don’t release right. It can cause all sorts of problems.
HiHoeSilver
Away!
Lubelocker gasket ftw.
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Great news today. The trans is done and shipping today. But the best news is Performabuilt covered it under warranty even though it is way past the 2 years AND it was my fault. Ryan said since it was an honest mistake by me they covered it. And he said he thought the instructions warned about silicone on the pan gasket but he’s going to look at them and if it’s not there he is going to include it. He said if the line pressure is set to stock ( still waiting on @BlackBearPerf to verify this 100%) and there’s no blockage on the pan rail passages this trans will definitely do the job. He said he fished several pieces of silicone out of the servo release/ valve body which caused the band to fight the other components resulting in extreme stress on the other hard parts as evidenced by the output shaft. Once again I can’t say enough about Performabuilt, from the great communication to the speed of their warranty work to the great warranty,period. They really went above and beyond for me. I can see why they’re considered one of the best.
That is really great news! Covered out of warranty, fixed, and shipping out today. Couldn’t ask for anything more! Looking forward to the pics of you reinstalling it back in the beast next week
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Yes but of course there’s always a slowdown. And just like last time it’s the converter. UPS had an issue “beyond their control” and it just arrived at FTI in Florida yesterday so now I wait for them to do the cut and clean and ship it back.
