Buying 2016 vs 2015 Suburban

[Shipyard]

Hi everyone, first post. I’m a Silverado guy from 2003-current. Now with kids and wife we sold the minivan we had for 8yrs and ready for a Suburban.

I’ve been looking at 18 and 19 Suburbans for quite a while and they are all used rentals mostly white and black. I’ve recently found a much nicer looking metallic bronze 2016 that was a personal vehicle with only 20k miles! However there’s no included CPO warranty.. so I think it could be more of a risk. Besides the potential Buffeting , were there any other issues to look out for on the 16s that were common on the 2015s?

Not sure why the previous owner decided to sell after so few miles....

If I can’t get this cheaper for being a 2016 regardless of the low miles, Ill hold out for a CPO 19.. I’ll love it more it’s the right color, but the CPO warranty seems like it could be worth it on a newer one. Thanks!

 

[Tahoe14]

Test drive it and check to make sure everything is operating properly. If you are worried about a CPO warranty then just purchase a GMPP extended warranty and you will be covered, there are GM Dealers that sell the warranty at discounted prices depending on which state you live in(Fl. & N.C.-no discount). If the vehicle is at a GM Dealer see if they will certify it but they are going to charge more for the vehicle. Carfax is a must and that should show the original selling Dealer, you may be able to get service records from that Dealer. Good luck.

 

[PG01]

Hold out for a newer model... the majority of the bugs were worked out in the later years..

 

[gat0r]

the buffeting has yet to be worked out.


make sure to test drive the vehicle... bring the whole family
if anyone has sensitive ears , they will know if that particular vehicle has the issue or not.


make sure to try as many road types as possible & speeds btwn 25-75 (or so)

 

[Prospect62]

Yeah one main reason I can think of as to why one was traded in at 20K is the buffeting issue. Research that and check the truck well.

 

[Miami-Dade]

If it were me I would get a 2019 CPO in a heartbeat. As far as rentals go....I have [as well as family members and friends] bought several rentals though the years [with CPO Warranty] and all were perfect. Never had to use the CPO warranty. All had entire service records plus had all of them checked out by a independent mechanic before signing the paperwork.

As far as issues go on the 2015-2017 just skim though the General DiscussionEngine& Drivetrain and the Interior areas.

 

[avalonandl]

Test drive them all with a full crew. The Buffeting is not confined to one year and NOT ALL do it....

I would not hesitate to buy an ex-rental Suburban.... They are not abused like a Mustang GT convertible

 

[Tylus]

I have an x-rental Suburban. It looked perfect. The only reason I know it was a rental was because of the Carfax. 3rd rental vehicle I've purchased. Will probably do again.

I've put over 60k miles on this year group. over 40k on a 2015 Tahoe. Over 20k on this 2017 Suburban. Fantastic rigs. The only way I'll get rid of this current Suburban would be to get a RST or 2500 Suburban...because I want the bigger motor


Buy it, you'll love it

 

[Shipyard]

It’s pristine. No buffeting. Seemed flawless on the records too . It’s at the same dealer where the original owner got it and took it in for recalls and oil changes. The last owners name was on the records and after some googling it looks like this is a local Army guy that only lives 4 miles from the base here. I’m betting it’s the same person. So that’s only like 12k total miles over 4-1/2 years for work. Explains the low miles. I doubt it was a kid hauler cause it’s way to clean. I put a deposit. Gotta go back for the loan paperwork. I need to check apple car play too.

 

[Shipyard]

II got it! I love it except the AFM is noticeable and I will get range for that. I talked to the previous owner and he confirmed no issues. The dealership sucked but it was worth it to find this one.

 

[Tylus]

Get the Edge tuner instead of the Range. I've read too many issues about the Range to ever consider using it. The Edge is about $300 all in. Completely different vehicle on level 3 (87 octane still) and you can turn that idiotic AFM off as well.

 

[AZCreeker]

II got it! I love it except the AFM is noticeable and I will get range for that. I talked to the previous owner and he confirmed no issues. The dealership sucked but it was worth it to find this one.

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what a cool color. very nice!

 

[Shipyard]

Thanks Tylus, I’ll check that out. Im still excited about the color. It’s called Brownstone Metallic.

I’m also thinking K&n 77 CAI kit in the near future to get it sounding great too. I tried to drop in KN on my truck years ago and it wasn’t much difference.

 

[Tylus]

if you want some noise that isn't horrible, I really recommend cutting the muffler off and just putting a 24" piece of pipe in there.

Personally I don't do intakes anymore. They're pretty much good for nothing without tuning. And all they cause is extra noise. That $350 (or more) can be better spent on other mods IMO.

I straight piped mine and love it. LEAVE THE RESONATOR ON!!!! I had previously put a Magnaflow muffler on my 2015 Tahoe and this 2017 Suburban. It was a little bit louder. The straight pipe sounds amazing, and really levels off once you hit cruising speeds on the highway. We have 4 kids riding in the back and they can barely hear the exhaust with windows up and going 80 mph. Everyone knows you have a V-8 under the hood when accelerating. But you don't get the stupid loudness levels like a Flowmaster sounds like.

 

[calif phil]

I like that color a lot.

 

[Rdr854]

if you want some noise that isn't horrible, I really recommend cutting the muffler off and just putting a 24" piece of pipe in there.

Personally I don't do intakes anymore. They're pretty much good for nothing without tuning. And all they cause is extra noise. That $350 (or more) can be better spent on other mods IMO.

I straight piped mine and love it. LEAVE THE RESONATOR ON!!!! I had previously put a Magnaflow muffler on my 2015 Tahoe and this 2017 Suburban. It was a little bit louder. The straight pipe sounds amazing, and really levels off once you hit cruising speeds on the highway. We have 4 kids riding in the back and they can barely hear the exhaust with windows up and going 80 mph. Everyone knows you have a V-8 under the hood when accelerating. But you don't get the stupid loudness levels like a Flowmaster sounds like.

I would not recommend doing that in Virginia. We have state inspections and roadside emissions in Northern Virginia that apply to any vehicle (not just those registered in NOVA).

 

[Tylus]

I would not recommend doing that in Virginia. We have state inspections and roadside emissions in Northern Virginia that apply to any vehicle (not just those registered in NOVA).

Straight piping is legal in 50/50 states

you aren’t touching the emissions system. Just removing a muffler and raising the decibel levels exiting the exhaust

even better, it cannot affect your warranty

 

[Shipyard]

Thanks. I wasn’t going to change the exhaust right now but I’ll look into straight pipe. I put magnaflow dual exhaust on my truck and like that.

I figured for the quiet suburban the intake louder sound would only be noticeable when really giving it gas.

 

[avalonandl]

II got it! I love it except the AFM is noticeable and I will get range for that. I talked to the previous owner and he confirmed no issues. The dealership sucked but it was worth it to find this one.

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Congrats and a nice looking ride. Those SUV's will eat up the road miles and be comfy.

 

[Rdr854]

Straight piping is legal in 50/50 states

you aren’t touching the emissions system. Just removing a muffler and raising the decibel levels exiting the exhaust

even better, it cannot affect your warranty

My recommendation would be to consult the SEMA web site which lists the vehicle noise laws for each state and has a pretty good map. The url is: https://www.semasan.com/resources/exhaust-noise-laws-state