AutoRide delete

[syclnjr]

Also I ran the bag lines where I could tie them into the original system if I got froggy one day to try it out

 

[iamdub]

FWIW I tow using my autoride system and it works awesome. I haven’t towed a real heavy trailer but I did load my 12’ enclosed trailer with a couple tons of yard debris and it leveled it out fine. That’s what the system is designed for and even lowered, running 26” wheels with almost no clearance it still worked perfect. I even used it for hauling 7 people and a huge load of gear and food/ beverages for the Hood To Coast relay race one year and I had the 26’s then and I never had a tire rub. So I guess I don’t understand why you guys want to get rid of the system and then still try to auto level....?

I'm not intentionally trying to get rid of the AutoRide or AutoLevel. I actually do like these features. My shocks need replacing and I'm lowering it, so I can't keep the AutoRide in the front. Well, I guess I could mount the strut under the control arm for the extra 2" of drop but I already have the BT struts, so I'm rolling with it. For the rear, I could make my own shock extenders and keep AutoLevel, but I already have new BT shocks and I'm not spending the money on new OEM shocks. I also already have the AirLift bags. Like you said- leveling when loaded is the exact purpose of the AutoLevel system. The bags are to compensate for the factory springs when they're loaded more than normal. My problem is that the lowering springs will be softer than the factory springs, so the bags will already be utilized some just to get the rear back to a factory-like capacity when not loaded. Going by the numbers, I still just can't see this being a real problem if I have it dialed in properly. I may be missing a factor or two, but unless something is revealed before then, I may be learning the hard way.

 

[iamdub]

FWIW. I don’t know all the ins and outs of the system and the expectations of the ride sensors etc. the way I understand it, while they share the same sensors, auto ride and auto level are to different things, correct me if I am wrong.

iamdub

I will do some measurements with different air pressures and see where things come out at.
Almost
Done

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Yes, they are two different systems. One is electronically variable shock damping and the other levels the rear when loaded. To be technically accurate, it levels about .5-1" when not loaded due to the rear springs being a little softer than non-ALC-equipped models.

I'd appreciate any data you can provide!

 

[Rocket Man]

FWIW. I don’t know all the ins and outs of the system and the expectations of the ride sensors etc. the way I understand it, while they share the same sensors, auto ride and auto level are to different things, correct me if I am wrong.

iamdub

I will do some measurements with different air pressures and see where things come out at.
Almost
Done

lol

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You are correct, and Im in the bad habit of referring to autoride when I should say autolevel. My autoride is disabled, also mine is a NBS so I don’t have struts up front. I have Bilstein 4600’s up front and Bilstein autolevel shocks in the rear which I can’t find any more; I bought those from Arnott. It rides and handles great with a 2/4 drop and huge swaybars.

 

[syclnjr]

Will dig up what I can and post here.

 

[syclnjr]

Had it out driving today to get things to settle and make sure it didn’t fall apart. Held together lol.

I had to take the level sensor rods that were supplied, cut half the threads off of each end and reinstall.

Compressor would continue to run when I first drove it. With the shorter rods it only does it’s test run after start for like 5 seconds.

Needs an alignment but here it sits.

factory 22s with huge 305/45/22s on it. Lol

 

[iamdub]

Had it out driving today to get things to settle and make sure it didn’t fall apart. Held together lol.

I had to take the level sensor rods that were supplied, cut half the threads off of each end and reinstall.

Compressor would continue to run when I first drove it. With the shorter rods it only does it’s test run after start for like 5 seconds.

Needs an alignment but here it sits.

factory 22s with huge 305/45/22s on it. Lol

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Sounds like you have the AutoLevel links set about right.

 

[syclnjr]

Yes sir. At least as it sits now.... we will see if any settling happens, but.... maybe I will figure out using the system to keep the airlift bags at the right level.

I have some ideas for that and possibly figured it out.

I think I really want to use it or find a way to have an autolevel system in the truck is my wife drives it a bunch to Girl Scout events etc and I would hate for her to have to add air to the bags when she has it fully loaded with kids and gear.

we will see.

Here is another picture. Not sure if it’s better or not. Lol

 

[iamdub]

What's the total drop, 4/4? Did you measure anything before and after? How about a direct side pic next time it's outta the garage?

 

[syclnjr]

yep will do lol, I got too excited to show what it looks.

Unfortunately I didn't take a measurement before.

Of course I measured it after, front is right at 32.5 from ground to fender lip opening. and rear is about 33.5 will post a before picture.

 

[syclnjr]

Here is a before pic

 

[iamdub]

yep will do lol, I got too excited to show what it looks.

Unfortunately I didn't take a measurement before.

Of course I measured it after, front is right at 32.5 from ground to fender lip opening. and rear is about 33.5 will post a before picture.

Really interested in the side pic cuz I believe yours sits how I want mine to. I'll compare your "after" measurements to my "before".

 

[syclnjr]

Here you go. Dirty as hell but should give you what you need.

 

[iamdub]

That first pic is what I'm after! Thank you!

 

[johnny lara]

whats up guys new to the forum and i just got a 07 esky currently i installed a 2/4 kit but i want to go lower @iamdub im interested in what you said about mounting the strut under the lower control arm can you explain a little more on that is it literally just mounting under and thats it also was wondering if the 3.9 ohm 25 watt resistors work for the escalade aswell, trying to get rid of the service suspension light.

 

[wjburken]

whats up guys new to the forum and i just got a 07 esky currently i installed a 2/4 kit but i want to go lower @iamdub im interested in what you said about mounting the strut under the lower control arm can you explain a little more on that is it literally just mounting under and thats it also was wondering if the 3.9 ohm 25 watt resistors work for the escalade aswell, trying to get rid of the service suspension light.

See this thread for putting strut under control arm. Post #7

https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/leveling-kit-to-lower.114438/#post-1377518

 

[johnny lara]

@wjburken thanks for the link


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[iamdub]

... is it literally just mounting under and thats it also was wondering if the 3.9 ohm 25 watt resistors work for the escalade aswell, trying to get rid of the service suspension light.

It is literally just that. Well, other than grinding a little for clearance and an alignment afterwards. Wade got you handled!

I'd PM Tony (@NORCAL SS) to verify, but I'd assume those resistors would work the same on the Escalade. It may depend on the type of shocks the Escalade has (MRC versus Bi-state).

 

[johnny lara]

Ok thanks I will pm him thanks


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[Jason in DLH]

Pull the negative cable FIRST before pulling the fuse or the BCM will see it and set the message in the dash. Then reconnect the battery. I’m just not sure what the fuse is labeled in an 08 so you need to find it first. I know in some trucks it’s not labeled at all. Someone else can help with that hopefully.

This is good to know. I’ve been rolling around with “Service Suspension System” for a couple years after lifting it. Will be trying this tonight!