Selling my 18" BTL..What to get next? Smaller set-up

[Nickleahy23]

Well i decided today it was time to sell my sub and amp. Ive had the same equipment in 2 vehicles for the last 4 years..

Im getting plenty of money for it to fund a new set up..

Main reason for selling it is the weight..the sub, amp, and box weights about 250 lbs min..and it takes up over half of my cargo area..just getting to that point where i like something more practical(well see how long that lasts)
Id like to be able to fold down my seats if I had something long to put in the truck..

Some shit im looking at so far is-

Sundown SA12s with a SAX1200...i can get this set up for just over $700 new..just worried i wont be happy with it, and might want to go with 15s?

also looking at the DD subs..maybe the 3500 series? but i think those are out of my price range right now..

im looking to spend about $800-900 on the set up for subs and amp..

any ideas?

it was nice when it lasted

 

[NoPh33rRaCiNg]

there wont be much difference between sa12's and sa15's if you have the same box specs and amp. just a little more cone area ofcourse with the 15's, might be a little louder. That would be a nice setup, the subs arent too spendy, you could probably get a cheaper amp that still does the same power though

 

[whitehoe01]

sundown amps are a lil high imo...

why not go for some 12s that will handle your 2500.1?
i heard sa's they're cool with out needing a bunch of power but no where near the impact that 18 btl.

the skar 12s are nice.
look at them

if you do keep the amp toss it on a t3 t2000 12 or 15... box would be 2x-3x smaller, sound awesome and hit just as well as the btl imo

 

[Nickleahy23]

there wont be much difference between sa12's and sa15's if you have the same box specs and amp. just a little more cone area ofcourse with the 15's, might be a little louder. That would be a nice setup, the subs arent too spendy, you could probably get a cheaper amp that still does the same power though

thats what i was thinking..i mean worst case i could always up it some day and run 4 12s with 2 of those amps...you think that would get me close to where i am now with the 1 18? I just have this in my head that nothing i get next will be even close to as loud as that 18..but i mean even if i ran 2 high power 12s, thats 24" of cone area so i could technically be louder with the right set up? just a mental thing i have i guess

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sundown amps are a lil high imo...

why not go for some 12s that will handle your 2500.1?
i heard sa's they're cool with out needing a bunch of power but no where near the impact that 18 btl.

the skar 12s are nice.
look at them

if you do keep the amp toss it on a t3 t2000 12 or 15... box would be 2x-3x smaller, sound awesome and hit just as well as the btl imo

the amp is going with the sub...i probably should keep it since its a badass amp, but i just dont need it..i am trying to go smaller with it weather i like it or not lol..it kind of limits me since its only 2 ohm stable

 

[NoPh33rRaCiNg]

thats what i was thinking..i mean worst case i could always up it some day and run 4 12s with 2 of those amps...you think that would get me close to where i am now with the 1 18? I just have this in my head that nothing i get next will be even close to as loud as that 18..but i mean even if i ran 2 high power 12s, thats 24" of cone area so i could technically be louder with the right set up? just a mental thing i have i guess

It's all in the install. Yes 2 12's in a perfect world will be louder than that 18. I don't have any experience with those SA's but everyone seems to like em. It's hard to say how it will compare that off 1200 watts to the 2000 whatever you had running to the BTL and whatever tuning you use on the SA's compared to the BTL.

 

[ThwopKing]

your box is about the same size as my box holding two Elemental Designs 15's..of course my box is sealed though. I bet ported that box bangs pretty good. With i had the cash to buy it...and you were closer lol.

 

[whitehoe01]

thats what i was thinking..i mean worst case i could always up it some day and run 4 12s with 2 of those amps...you think that would get me close to where i am now with the 1 18? I just have this in my head that nothing i get next will be even close to as loud as that 18..but i mean even if i ran 2 high power 12s, thats 24" of cone area so i could technically be louder with the right set up? just a mental thing i have i guess

not exactly... 2 12's cone area is 226.19, 1 18 cone area is 254.47... but in a perfect world yea 2 12's should equal a single 18 but it all comes down to power, box size, tuning etc.
SA's are decent. sundown makes good products but perhaps look at the AudioQue sdc2, skar 12's, DC lvl3's, T3 t1000.. those are the 12 i can think of off the top of my head that go head to head with SA's

as for the amp too...i like sundown but the price of their 1200d vs the audioque 1200d.. id save money and get the audioque

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the amp is going with the sub...i probably should keep it since its a badass amp, but i just dont need it..i am trying to go smaller with it weather i like it or not lol..it kind of limits me since its only 2 ohm stable[/QUOTE]

 

[Nickleahy23]

not exactly... 2 12's cone area is 226.19, 1 18 cone area is 254.47... but in a perfect world yea 2 12's should equal a single 18 but it all comes down to power, box size, tuning etc.
SA's are decent. sundown makes good products but perhaps look at the AudioQue sdc2, skar 12's, DC lvl3's, T3 t1000.. those are the 12 i can think of off the top of my head that go head to head with SA's

as for the amp too...i like sundown but the price of their 1200d vs the audioque 1200d.. id save money and get the audioque

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the amp is going with the sub...i probably should keep it since its a badass amp, but i just dont need it..i am trying to go smaller with it weather i like it or not lol..it kind of limits me since its only 2 ohm stable

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thanks..most likely im going to be running less power on this set up..i dont have the cash to drop 1200 on a new system..and i dont really want to..like i said i want to downsize it a little bit..its just hard to get away from a big power set up lol

shit i could even go with the 2200d for 380 bucks..that would give my 2200 watts at 1 ohm..the audioque hd312s take about 1k rms, so i could run 2 of those..would be a bit over my price range, but that seems like a decent set up? it would be 967 shipped from the audioque website..im just thinking this would give me more of a punch then the sundown subs?

 

[Nickleahy23]

think i decided to just go with 2 sundown sa12s, and a audioque 1200d amp for now. I can get this for $660 to my door. this will save me 300 over the other set up, which i can put toward my new lowering kit...i can always upgrade later to 2 more 12s and another amp..they were hitting 152 dbs with 4 of these subs and 2 of the 1200 amps..i could live with that if i get bored of it

 

[J-dub]

I'd also check into T3 Audio, that's who I'm going with

 

[whitehoe01]

id personally take the skar over the sundown sa's plus its hard to find new sa's unless you look around on caco or woofersetc. sundown said they were sold out any only woofersetc has then new right now...

hdc312 are warming up with 1000rms. you wouldnt get full potential out of them with out adding another 2200d (1 on each sub) and that fu*ks your budget.

im sure you'll be pleased with the new setup. just make sure the box is built well and tuned correctly

 

[Nickleahy23]

ya i really dont know what to do..as much as i want to just go small and save the money, id rather spend the extra money and get something i know im going to be happy with..

what do you think one AQ HD 15 on the AQ 2200d would be compared to the 2 12s on a 1200d? I understand its more wattage, but i can do either for roughly the same price..which is going to have more output and better sound?

 

[whitehoe01]

i guess im looking at the aspect of being use to the BTL 18..
b/c vs the 12's nor the 15 are gonna get as deep or as loud.
personally i like the single 15 though AQ's dont like being tuned under 38hz.. though it should still reach down to 31hz...
i actually have a damn near new hdc315(copper) sitting here infront of me now. my cousin bought it to put in a civic but the box is far to big for it.. we put it in the back seat for 2 days with a 1200d and it hurt. but he wants his back seat so he asked me to sell it or try to get someone to build a box inside the trunk.
i've been reading about ppl running 1200rms on SA's on meade's forum... maybe 2 SA's with a 2200d... LOL
the 2 12's vs single 15 the box will be about the same size cubic feet wise but the 2 12's you can build shallow vs the 15... if its space that you want back in you hoe... do the 2 12's...

im debating on my subs at the moment.. my amp should be here on the 16th..(SD5000) and i was gonna go with 15s.. lvl5's or xl's.. but i really want 18s with out a huge box and ppl are telling me the new btl 18s can work well in 10cubes... my 15 box was gonna be 8 cubes and im like 2 extra cubes to have 18s and all the extra cone area (Two 15" = 353.43, Two 18" = 508.94)
might be going with the new N218 BTL's fully loaded. i get my taxes on the 12th so i need to make my mind up b/c im just about ready to order my stuff.
10 cubes i can still have 40% cargo area which is what i need until i can do a wall next year

 

[blueflamed03]

nick, what do you want? I'd do four tens or three 12's...

 

[Dvldogyut]

I have two brand new in the box DD 510 subs for sale $250 plus shipping. You would come up under 300 on two new subs that take up very little space bout 1 net cube each.

 

[Nickleahy23]

i think i am just going to go with the 2 sa12s on a saz-1200d for $770. That amp is pushing out almost 1600 watts at times, its a beast for a 1200 watt amp. I know i will have better range then my 18, which i will be happy with, and it will be more crisp.

I will lose the super low, everything shaking, rattling the truck to death, but im ok with that for a while..my 18 has destroyed my truck..clips broken everywhere, dome lights falling out, seals not sealing lol..time to fix some shit and just have a nice sounding system

 

[blueflamed03]

too bad you cant keep the 2500.1, and do three 12's...

more power, and more cone area.

 

[Nickleahy23]

too bad you cant keep the 2500.1, and do three 12's...

more power, and more cone area.

ya i want to, but im getting $800 for a sub thats 5+ years old, and a refurb amp that is almost 4 years old..and ive beat on this shit forever lol...

i guess i just need to realize im not going for spl anymore..my set up right now is about the best i could have for the money..ill never touch the spl without spending 1200+..which im fine with..this is going to sound better over all, and i honestly dont crank it up unless to show it off, which im getting over

there is a guy who ran 2 saz-1500d on 4 sa12s and hit a 153...so worse case, ill pick up another amp and subs down the road lol..

 

[whitehoe01]

4 sa12's on 2 1500s doing 153 in what kinda vehicle at what freq(betting 45hz or higher) im wanting 150's at 36 or lower mmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[killer20072001]

I had two 1200's and those things are beasts. You will not be dissapointed with that amp.