2025 Suburban Preview from TFL Truck

[WalleyeMikeIII]

5.3, 6.2, and the jusiced 3.0 Duramax
24" wheels
Refreshed Interior
Electronic Column Shifter
30s of video recording of interior and exterior cams prior to an accident or theft

 

[CMoore711]

I didn't watch the video, but did read the car and driver release article.

2025 Chevy Tahoe and Suburban Get Snazzier Interiors, Mightier Diesels

Chevy's full-size three-row SUVs also add more expressive front ends and an array of new driver-assist features.

www.caranddriver.com

Much improved integration of infotainment screen into the dash. Looks like more a part of the dash, versus just a tablet mounted onto the dash.
The 3.0 Duramax gets quite the increase in power. No details on how they got there; I assume it was accomplished with some adjustments in the tune.
The headlight redesign looks good but is quite a different layout:
- They've gone away from the wide triple LED reflector low/high beam to just a single larger LED projector.
- The location of the main low/high beam has also been lowered in the overall headlight layout.
Added small LED projector fog lights with different locations in the front bumper based on the various trim models. Hopefully they pack enough power and output to be functional and not just an aesthetic LED light.
Clearly they went back to the column shifter to allow for larger screen display layout.
Article says "Chevy claims the suspension tweaked for a more refined ride, and steering calibration reworked to provide more feedback." I'm wondering what part updates/changes were made to the suspension?

Overall the 2025 Chevy SUV refresh looks great IMO; Chevrolet finished what they started with the 2021 re-design. Anxious to see the 2025 GMC SUV refresh.

EDIT: More details on how they increased the power on the diesel and ride and handling refinements on the Chevrolet website:

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[t_bergman]

This is approaching the twilight zone for me; this is not just a GM issue but seems to be incredibly prevalent in the auto industry. Instead of a car which the consumer drives, it's molding into a computer which the average consumer rides and spends money on.

Before over the air connectivity, and incredibly complex technology; a car would roll off the line and could be expected to never receive a computer update. Now, because the capability to fix the software so easily, there is NO incentive for the engineers or GM to push for the software to be right on day 1. The software simply needs to be acceptable.

I don't think we've seen enough of the new platform *********** into the market to really see how well they are going to hold up.

Pros:
-They figured out how to get a gear shifter, certain technology should be an evolution and not a revolution.
-DMax in the z71
-They at least kept some physical controls for the HVAC
-They've kept the ability to use CarPlay and Android Auto

Cons:
-Whoever is putting together packages for GM really needs to rethink 24" tires with almost no sidewall on a big SUV.
-Connected tech, the more tech the larger the target and I don't trust GM or any car manufacturer with this amount of connectivity within the car.
-Vehicle + 8,600lbs going down the road at 70 mph under the control of super cruise seems like a very bad idea. This isn't directly aimed the tahoe/suburban but this seems like people will have a false sense of security of understanding exactly what they are doing.

 

[GMCnewbee]

How do you like the internal camera and breathing detection? Did I hear that right?

 

[t_bergman]

How do you like the internal camera and breathing detection? Did I hear that right?

My tin foil hat personality senses that this is to assist GM in ensuring you are actually paying attention when using super cruise.

As someone who works in cyber security, I'd have to assume on day 1 that camera is live and able to be remotely viewed.

 

[GMCnewbee]

My tin foil hat personality senses that this is to assist GM in ensuring you are actually paying attention when using super cruise.

As someone who works in cyber security, I'd have to assume on day 1 that camera is live and able to be remotely viewed.

and recorded for future reference!

 

[CMoore711]

and recorded for future reference!

I really hope you’re wrong on that one. But a piece of me wouldn’t be surprised…

 

[Polo08816]

This is approaching the twilight zone for me; this is not just a GM issue but seems to be incredibly prevalent in the auto industry. Instead of a car which the consumer drives, it's molding into a computer which the average consumer rides and spends money on.

Before over the air connectivity, and incredibly complex technology; a car would roll off the line and could be expected to never receive a computer update. Now, because the capability to fix the software so easily, there is NO incentive for the engineers or GM to push for the software to be right on day 1. The software simply needs to be acceptable.

I don't think we've seen enough of the new platform *********** into the market to really see how well they are going to hold up.

Pros:
-They figured out how to get a gear shifter, certain technology should be an evolution and not a revolution.
-DMax in the z71
-They at least kept some physical controls for the HVAC
-They've kept the ability to use CarPlay and Android Auto

Cons:
-Whoever is putting together packages for GM really needs to rethink 24" tires with almost no sidewall on a big SUV.
-Connected tech, the more tech the larger the target and I don't trust GM or any car manufacturer with this amount of connectivity within the car.
-Vehicle + 8,600lbs going down the road at 70 mph under the control of super cruise seems like a very bad idea. This isn't directly aimed the tahoe/suburban but this seems like people will have a false sense of security of understanding exactly what they are doing.

+1. Anything over 20" is a waste. More unspring mass, harsher ride, more likely to be damaged/bent, and more expensive to replace.

I think 20" is the cutoff because there are no practical braking systems that can't clear a 20" wheel.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

That interior cam would be just like the cam on my laptop. Covered in 3M electrical tape!

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Also: I’m not in love w/ the gauge cluster screen. Looks too glossy and no sunshade

 

[Deuce16GMCs]

Is it just me, but I don't see speakers on the top dashboard? On any of the videos I've seen.

It's bad enough the Tahoe/Suburban JC gets 10 speakers while the Yukon Denali gets 15. But I hope they did remove even more speakers off the Suburban.

 

[Saltydog]

Overall it looks like a good improvement, I am not all that thrilled about all the shiny screens and gloss black, which will look bad after just a few months.

 

[mplunk]

Also: I’m not in love w/ the gauge cluster screen. Looks too glossy and no sunshade

If it's like the screens in the Escalade, they have a film over it that reduces glare to nothing. It's actually pretty cool

 

[tooleyondeck]

It's nice that they gave it the Silverado/Esky style infotainment setup finally. I think the reason for the 24" wheels is a result of culture, a lot of GM full-size owners put 24"+ aftermarket wheels on them (at least down here in the South). I like that the front end isn't as forward-slanted as the 21-24, but IMHO the new Traverse looks better.

 

[EscaladeEscapades]

Thrilled they brought back the column shifter, glad those buttons were short lived. I know it's subjective but I just couldn't get why they changed the shifter that was not needing "improvement" in my opinion. "If it ain't broke ..."

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Thrilled they brought back the column shifter, glad those buttons were short lived. I know it's subjective but I just couldn't get why they changed the shifter that was not needing "improvement" in my opinion. "If it ain't broke ..."

It’s not really a traditional PRNDL shifter, it’s push buttons turned into a lever. That said, I don’t mind it.

 

[BlaineBug]

Did they fix the DFM lifter failure issue yet? 2021 and 2022 models are still experiencing it enmasse.

 

[BlaineBug]

It’s not really a traditional PRNDL shifter, it’s push buttons turned into a lever. That said, I don’t mind it.

Even on my 2019 I believe that is all it is. I do believe that there is a mechanical connection between the column shifter and the transmission parking pawl. I had some electrical issues in early 2020, transmission would not engage along with a myriad of other electrical failures. Would be able to shift out of park and the vehicle would roll as if it was in neutral, but would not engage any of the gears for forward or rearward momentum. Similar idea? Maybe now they've deleted the parking pawl mechanical connection and it'll now be powered by a failure prone electronic motor with plastic gears

 

[THE YETI]

Nom issues here with 24s... have them on our Escalade and they fit and look a lot better.

I do like the new live view 360 cameras they have. Hopefully that plays over to the 25' Escalade as well.

 

[Tahole]

glad i waited and passed on ordering a 2024 - this updated infotainment is a big improvement. I personally dont mind the interior cam with breathing detection - could prove to be useful if you have kids or pets. Supercruise is a bonus and the shift lever coming back is almost worth it alone

i'll be one of the first in line to place an order come november 2024