DOD FAILED. CAM THOUGHTS

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So I still didn’t have any luck with the lock tool in the 5456 kit and after convincing TSP to send me the 5460 I can now say the cam phaser is complete.

If you look at the picture you might be able to tell the difference between the two lol. The phaser block appeared to be exactly the same.
 

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So I still didn’t have any luck with the lock tool in the 5456 kit and after convincing TSP to send me the 5460 I can now say the cam phaser is complete.

If you look at the picture you might be able to tell the difference between the two lol. The phaser block appeared to be exactly the same.
Hurray!! Guess I will order the 5460 from now on if it's easier. Now just make sure that you get that dowl located properly!! Pull it off and on 30 times if needed to make sure, it has bitten many people that got penisy. Lol
 
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Hurray!! Guess I will order the 5460 from now on if it's easier. Now just make sure that you get that dowl located properly!! Pull it off and on 30 times if needed to make sure, it has bitten many people that got penisy. Lol
Sorry for my ignorance but what dowl are you talking about?
 

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Sorry for my ignorance but what dowl are you talking about?
The dowel on the camshaft that goes into the vvt assembly. It's easy to just barely miss it and you don't know it because you can't see it.
 
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The dowel on the camshaft that goes into the vvt assembly. It's easy to just barely miss it and you don't know it because you can't see it.
Oh yea duh I know what your talking about now. I will check 1000 times and then one more for good measure.

Thanks for the heads up
 
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I have an appointment for a Dyno tune on Monday the 14th but I want to fire it up this weekend to ensure I have no leaks and everything is working correctly.

Is there any harm in using the AFM disabler until it gets tuned?

The cats are deleted too, will this cause any issues like Low power mode?
 

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I have an appointment for a Dyno tune on Monday the 14th but I want to fire it up this weekend to ensure I have no leaks and everything is working correctly.

Is there any harm in using the AFM disabler until it gets tuned?

The cats are deleted too, will this cause any issues like Low power mode?
No problem to disable and run. It will fire perfect while cold, but could have some idle surging when warmed up. Cats won't matter beyond the engine light being on, they won't change any engine parameters.
 

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No problem to disable and run. It will fire perfect while cold, but could have some idle surging when warmed up. Cats won't matter beyond the engine light being on, they won't change any engine parameters.
Just make sure the afm disable is on, it will default to 4 cylinders if not.
 

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Oh yeah, and take it easy on the way to the tune. You won't be able to hurt the engine, but your tranny can take some damage without a proper tune. It's not like the old days, the 6, 8, and 10 speeds rely on the engine tune as part of their inputs for proper line pressure calculations and such. And don't forget to bring your cam settings supplied by TSP for your tuner to input.
 
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Oh yeah, and take it easy on the way to the tune. You won't be able to hurt the engine, but your tranny can take some damage without a proper tune. It's not like the old days, the 6, 8, and 10 speeds rely on the engine tune as part of their inputs for proper line pressure calculations and such. And don't forget to bring your cam settings supplied by TSP for your tuner to input.
Thank you as always for your wealth of knowledge.

I didn't even think on how the trans reacts to the engine, it completely makes sense. I may just end up towing it but I'm going to order one of those ODB AFM disablers to test the engine and my work for leaks.

I have a list of mods and the TSP card in the truck already.
 

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Thank you as always for your wealth of knowledge.

I didn't even think on how the trans reacts to the engine, it completely makes sense. I may just end up towing it but I'm going to order one of those ODB AFM disablers to test the engine and my work for leaks.
No problemo!

And you are safe to drive it, just make sure to keep it at light throttle like you are saving fuel. The transmission shift pressure never gets lower than when you are driving at light throttle, so you have no worry of burning it up. Its when you get into half throttle and up that can become an issue. Basically your engine reports the wrong amount of torque the engine is putting out, so the trans doesn't give enough pressure. It also can be in the wrong shift timing tables, so shifts could be flaired and slow when they should be firm in and out.
 

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Thank you as always for your wealth of knowledge.

I didn't even think on how the trans reacts to the engine, it completely makes sense. I may just end up towing it but I'm going to order one of those ODB AFM disablers to test the engine and my work for leaks.

I have a list of mods and the TSP card in the truck already.
To be clear, there is nothing on the cam card that will have the numbers your tuner will want to input. The cam card numbers are just characteristics of your camshaft, it has no tuner information unless they started adding it in the last month or two. I have the cam timing numbers on hand if you get in a pinch. Just respond here and not pm if you need them. I don't get notifications for private messages. I get these notifications instant. I can forward the info to you or the tuner if you can't get it.

I am excited for you to feel an extra 100 wheel.
 
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To be clear, there is nothing on the cam card that will have the numbers your tuner will want to input. The cam card numbers are just characteristics of your camshaft, it has no tuner information unless they started adding it in the last month or two. I have the cam timing numbers on hand if you get in a pinch. Just respond here and not pm of you need them. I don't get notifications for private messages. I get these notifications insrant. I can forward the info to you or the tuner if you can't get it.

I am excited for you to feel an extra 100 wheel.
No tuning information for the camshaft degree numbers vs rpm and load I mean. Lol. Friday night drinks making me drag this out here. He will appreciate the cam card numbers for injector timing possibly, but these Cams don't need traditional injector delay tuning much. If it was a bad ass master cam in a 2005 corvette, he would care more about your cam card. I am am talking the data for bringing the cam from max advanced, to max retarded vs rpm and load. Tsp took the time to develop the cam in concert with the correct numbers. Having any advance and retard numbers different than they figured, will cost you average power.
They did all the hard work, and it's why your truck is going to feel like it has a supercharger and not a cam.
 
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No problemo!

And you are safe to drive it, just make sure to keep it at light throttle like you are saving fuel. The transmission shift pressure never gets lower than when you are driving at light throttle, so you have no worry of burning it up. Its when you get into half throttle and up that can become an issue. Basically your engine reports the wrong amount of torque the engine is putting out, so the trans doesn't give enough pressure. It also can be in the wrong shift timing tables, so shifts could be flaired and slow when they should be firm in and out.

That makes me feel more comfortable now. I'll take it for a drive tomorrow hopefully and just cruise.
No tuning information for the camshaft degree numbers vs rpm and load I mean. Lol. Friday night drinks making me drag this out here. He will appreciate the cam card numbers for injector timing possibly, but these Cams don't need traditional injector delay tuning much. If it was a bad ass master cam in a 2005 corvette, he would care more about your cam card. I am am talking the data for bringing the cam from max advanced, to max retarded vs rpm and load. Tsp took the time to develop the cam in concert with the correct numbers. Having any advance and retard numbers different than they figured, will cost you average power.
They did all the hard work, and it's why your truck is going to feel like it has a supercharger and not a cam.

I didn’t realize they would need more info then the card. Can you please send me that info?

Thank you
 

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That makes me feel more comfortable now. I'll take it for a drive tomorrow hopefully and just cruise.


I didn’t realize they would need more info then the card. Can you please send me that info?

Thank you
 

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Pm me your email address and I will send the settings to you right away.
 
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Pm me your email address and I will send the settings to you right away.
I forgot you said you didn't get notification for private messages. I sent you my email address in your PM

I had to reschedule the DYNO because I couldn't finish the project, I would've had it done this weekend but it rained Saturday and I lost a whole day. I wasn't able to get the exhaust on.

However that's the bad news the good news is I was able to Fire it up without the headers and or exhaust and man that put a huge smile on my face. It was like being at Monster Jam :cool:
 

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I forgot you said you didn't get notification for private messages. I sent you my email address in your PM

I had to reschedule the DYNO because I couldn't finish the project, I would've had it done this weekend but it rained Saturday and I lost a whole day. I wasn't able to get the exhaust on.

However that's the bad news the good news is I was able to Fire it up without the headers and or exhaust and man that put a huge smile on my face. It was like being at Monster Jam :cool:
Check your spam filter, I emailed you yesterday around 6 pm. Congrats getting it fired!!
 

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I forgot you said you didn't get notification for private messages. I sent you my email address in your PM

I had to reschedule the DYNO because I couldn't finish the project, I would've had it done this weekend but it rained Saturday and I lost a whole day. I wasn't able to get the exhaust on.

However that's the bad news the good news is I was able to Fire it up without the headers and or exhaust and man that put a huge smile on my face. It was like being at Monster Jam :cool:
SO glad it fired up and ran for you. Great things to come and can't wait to hear about the performance.
 

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