What maintenance to expect around 200k miles

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Not trying to cause a pissing match but I don’t think any actual facts were offered.....and I would argue that tranny - a big hydraulic pump - IS a sterile environment.
So as to not hijack this thread I’m going to move my discussion to a new thread shortly - because apparently I need further education on this matter......
 

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Not trying to cause a pissing match but I don’t think any actual facts were offered.....and I would argue that tranny - a big hydraulic pump - IS a sterile environment.
So as to not hijack this thread I’m going to move my discussion to a new thread shortly - because apparently I need further education on this matter......

Look within the context of what I said and consider its construction and fluid path. I think the answer will come to you
 

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Let me get to the point on a couple things

1. Torque converter isn't a closed system. Fluid runs though it from the oil pump in the trans. It absolutely has to, otherwise the thing would overheat and boil the fluid in very short order. Torque converter is the primary source of heat in an automatic trans

2. The whole bit about flushes vs. Changes is tiresome. Sure there are some power machines that hook up to the cooler lines, but even still, those are uncommon in my experience on account of the labor involved to use them. And even still, they pump fluid at low pressures, below 60 psi, which your transmission does anyway.

3. There's this odd double think bit on the forum where the preferred method of changing fluid is to remove the cooler line and start the car (which I disagree with) while simultaneously saying that doing the same thing with a machine which adds fluid at the same time do avoid running thr pan dry is bad

4. You don't need to get all the old fluid out. The system is not that sterile

5. If you ever find yourself at a point where you don't want to flush/change/drain/whatever nomenclature you want because of fear that sludge will be moved around, then I suggest you do some reading. Transmissions don't undergo any combustion and as such, do not form sludge. The only debris that can form in a transmission are wear metals, which will be attracted to magnets at the bottom of the pan, and clutch material, which will be suspended in the fluid. If you change your fluid and find that your trans is ******* up after, it's no fault of the fluid change/method, you'd just discovered that your trans was EOL and was set to blow up within the next couple thousand miles anyway. If your reason for changing fluid is because of poor shifting/slipping/etc, there's a good chance fluid won't help it on account of damage to the hard parts already being done

Amen! I took my 4l60 out to do bushings in the pump assembly, fairly low miles 50kish miles since rebuild, Took tc out, didn't empty anything, took the pan out filter, etc, removed pump, did the work, helicoiled a stripped bolt and slapped it back together, took roughly 6/7 quarts to refill to full levels again, I can imagine the tc takes a good chunk of fluid, as it was heavy as **** and the rest hides in the valves, and rear of the unit.
 

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Wow! My wife bought a Yukon because she always wanted one, looks like we stepped into the overhaul mileage. Half (less expensive) was done by previous owner ( her uncle) and they didn’t mention what it still needs.
Brakes pads and rotors done but they fade or get hard , we bled them but it didn’t help much.

I was told the transmission is at 45%, and need a new or rebuild. Will one out of an 00’ or 02 fit?




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Wow! My wife bought a Yukon because she always wanted one, looks like we stepped into the overhaul mileage. Half (less expensive) was done by previous owner ( her uncle) and they didn’t mention what it still needs.
Brakes pads and rotors done but they fade or get hard , we bled them but it didn’t help much.

I was told the transmission is at 45%, and need a new or rebuild. Will one out of an 00’ or 02 fit?




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Brakes are no biggie. Fading is no Bueno. Verify that a caliper isn't sticking or something though. Brake fade shouldn't happen in normal diving conditions. Typically you really need tok push the systems hard for that to happen. Like on mine, I don't get fade until the 5th consecutive 60-0 stop.

Not sure what that means, trans is at 45%? There's no external access to measure band or clutch thickness
 

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A common pattern in transmission failures is bigger than stock tires. They may look cool, but....
Suspension and shocks will need to be redone soon. If you have autoride- have fun paying for that.
 

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OP, don't worry too much. I've had my truck since it was brand new (over 13 years now) and here are some of the things I've done. I still think it's been a great truck that's required very little maintenance overall. I have 201,000 miles on it now and wouldn't hesitate to take it across country tomorrow.

water pump
brakes (x2)
shocks
power steering pump
power steering box
windshield washer fluid pump
inner/outer tie rods
A/C belt tensioner
fuel pump
wheel bearings
oil pump pickup tube o-ring
 

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what about the timing chain?
my tahoe has 240K, and I know the water pump and rad have been replaced, but no real service records on it, so no idea what else other than what i've done.
 

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what about the timing chain?
my tahoe has 240K, and I know the water pump and rad have been replaced, but no real service records on it, so no idea what else other than what i've done.
There's no scheduled interval for replacement.

I don't know what the spec is, or even if there is a published spec for slack, but when u had my front cover off on my rig I opted to not do the timing chain. There wasn't much slack. Granted you have 100k miles on me but ehh. YMMV, so to speak
 

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Brakes are no biggie. Fading is no Bueno. Verify that a caliper isn't sticking or something though. Brake fade shouldn't happen in normal diving conditions. Typically you really need tok push the systems hard for that to happen. Like on mine, I don't get fade until the 5th consecutive 60-0 stop.

Not sure what that means, trans is at 45%? There's no external access to measure band or clutch thickness
They scanned it and said the transmission is at 45% , it’s on the way out. Previous owner had 22”s on it ( bald rears), I switched it back to 16’s and new Lt tires.

Could the abs sensor cause the brake problem?




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k&n makes a dry filter also, the oiled filters are reported to mess with the maf sensor and that could be the reason for the funky shifting, even if it wasn't from the filter oil it could be the maf taking a dump my experience is I see them going bad around 160k
Agreed the dirty MAF can cause that to happen

Cleaned mine it's good as new
 

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Gotta just be the fluid life monitor. Lol. The tech 2 can read it the same as the oil life on the dic.

I didn't know the PCM/TCM tracked that. It probably calculates very similarly to how the OLM does. No hijack intended, but this reminds me of something I learned recently about Jenn's car. It has a counter for the trans fluid life that counts in increments based on fluid temp sustaining certain temperature ranges:

"The temperature of the CVT fluid is continuously monitored. When it is below 50ºC it is considered in the "warming-up phase", once it is between 50ºC and 90ºC, it is considered in its normal state. Each minute the CVT is operated with a fluid temperature between 90ºC and 100ºC, a deterioration counter is incremented by 1.

When the fluid temperature is between 100ºC and 110ºC, the increment is 2.
When the fluid temperature is between 110ºC and 120ºC, the increment is 4.
When the fluid temperature is between 120ºC and 140ºC, the increment is 6.
When the fluid temperature is above 140ºC, the increment is 8."

It'll add up until a predetermined limit is met then flash a warning of some sort. I've changed the fluid twice under our ownership but I don't have the stuff to reset the counter. I'll just have the dealer reset it when it comes on.
 

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I didn't know the PCM/TCM tracked that. It probably calculates very similarly to how the OLM does. No hijack intended, but this reminds me of something I learned recently about Jenn's car. It has a counter for the trans fluid life that counts in increments based on fluid temp sustaining certain temperature ranges:

"The temperature of the CVT fluid is continuously monitored. When it is below 50ºC it is considered in the "warming-up phase", once it is between 50ºC and 90ºC, it is considered in its normal state. Each minute the CVT is operated with a fluid temperature between 90ºC and 100ºC, a deterioration counter is incremented by 1.

When the fluid temperature is between 100ºC and 110ºC, the increment is 2.
When the fluid temperature is between 110ºC and 120ºC, the increment is 4.
When the fluid temperature is between 120ºC and 140ºC, the increment is 6.
When the fluid temperature is above 140ºC, the increment is 8."

It'll add up until a predetermined limit is met then flash a warning of some sort. I've changed the fluid twice under our ownership but I don't have the stuff to reset the counter. I'll just have the dealer reset it when it comes on.

Interesting.
 

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Do NOT have a transmission flush performed. Instead, a gentler method of servicing is to drop the pan, replace the filter, reinstall the pan, and then fill with enough fluid to get it back to level on the dip stick.

Flushes are generally the predecessor to death on high mileage transmissions. I only did a flush on mine once, around 50k miles, and have done a simple drain/replace/refill every 50k since. I have 201,000 miles on the original motor and original transmission.
that's only if you flush it every 50,000 if you flush more consistently especially with a rebuilt trans there shouldn't be any problems as long as maintenance has been up to date
 

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Gotta just be the fluid life monitor. Lol. The tech 2 can read it the same as the oil life on the dic.

Hmmmm. I don't recall seeing that as an item with the Tech 2 on my '04, but I'll have the big girl out early tomorrow for a hike and will break out the Tech 2 for the trip to the trailhead. Been wanting to compare the Tech 2 values to the reman dash gauges.
 

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Hmmmm. I don't recall seeing that as an item with the Tech 2 on my '04, but I'll have the big girl out early tomorrow for a hike and will break out the Tech 2 for the trip to the trailhead. Been wanting to compare the Tech 2 values to the reman dash gauges.

Pretty sure there's a trans fluid life monitor in there somewhere. @swathdiver?
 

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