With yesterday presidential alert on phone who has considered their SUV as SHTF vechile

[Jorge1313]

With the world changing so fast and so many calamity. Who has considered there SUV as a SHTF (shit hits the fan) vehicle a rugged SUV capable of getting anywhere. Share your thought on if you have as SHTF vehicle what upgrade you thought of doing or done

 

[Doubeleive]

honestly if the shtf 90% of us will perish within a year, the older I get the more I realize this to be true, with no widespread electrical power or gasoline reserves that right there alone puts the bullet in the gun so to say, unless you have the capability to 1. protect yourself (have food stored) and can hide from the initial onslaught of savagery and the few years of it afterwards. 2. the ability grow your own food supply and protect it from marauders. 3. have the knowledge to know and the (ability to acquire) that you also need basics like salt and other essential minerals to remain healthy. 4. even if you could manage to remain alive a few more years the future would be very bleak it would take decades or more to rebuild any resemblance of a civilized society.

regarding any vehicle to escape? good freaking luck, just think of the simple day to day traffic and then multiply that times 400, your escape breaks down a motorcycle or bicycle to get anywhere or walking away. because every road/highway/ditch/crevice will be jammed with cars

at the very best if something (anything-an act of GOD) disabled the global electrical grid/food/fuel supply, it's an instant return to the early 1800's, only non power tools would be useful at all and other mechanical devices like bicycles etc. no more mass processed foods, if you have the skills and supplies (like sugar-very unlikely) to can/preserve food's to save for the winter you might not starve.

I could go on, the bottom line it's a nightmare and you will probably die soon for a great variety of reasons.

 

[dbbd1]

^ Too true...




My Yukon? Nope. It's not even 4wd and too heavy. I'll take my Tacoma. But, if it gets really bad, I'm stealing some horses. Good off-road capability, no fuel to buy and, after some drying, you have some firestarters.

 

[WillCO]

Yep. In a SHTF situation your best vehicle asset is probably your mountain bike, at least beyond the immediate term. And tire tubes will be more valuable than gold.

 

[drakon543]

a full size suv no its too big uses too much gas to be practical and traffic would be less of a concern more like being able to quickly maneuver around abandoned vehicles and various debris. maybe getting a diesel for such an event would atleast give you the option of getting one of those home kits to make diesel out of various oils. as many abandoned vehicles and equipment direct fuel would be easy to get for the first few months after that basic oils would still be fairly easy to come by. then in a situation where you may have one of the few still operational vehicles around would paint a huge target on you for people resorting to looting and stealing to get by. my choice of vehicle in such an event would be a smaller older jeep converted to diesel. too many electronics to worry about in newer stuff when you dont have a local parts store available. any other smaller suv converted to diesel would work too.

 

[Jorge1313]

Yeah everyone seems right lots of sense. There heavy consume lots of gas . The question is you can’t move a family in motorcycle. It might not be the best car for this. Thought someone had modified a Tahoe for this this type situation that can arise any day. With all the flash floods, hurricanes and sink holes I still feel safe in any type of situation that can come my way

 

[G00se]

If things really got hairy, I might take off in a boat for awhile. I like sushi.

 

[drakon543]

there are a bunch of large SUVs setup as bugout vehicles. basically the same setup as an offroad trail expedition rig. you would basically be after building with reinforced bumpers and such a small flexible lift nothing too big. roof rack and other extra storage options to haul extra supplies. its been done before but as per your question overkill can be the downfall there. you can just about turn one into a tank but your adding alot of extra weight. start off with something lighter and do the same build.

 

[Scottydoggs]

i think id want a dirt bike, or a enduro at least, its good off road, skinny enough to get by most traffic jams. get some saddle bags to hold gas and gear and run away lol

Doubeleive is right tho, most of us are dead pretty fast.

you know them crazy prepper people, not so crazy now are they, those will be the ones who survive longest.

 

[drakon543]

that or some of them will be the first to go. some of them are pretty well known in thier area. people will flock to them for help or to raid them. if your going to prep for such an event keep it quiet.

 

[GTNator]

Watch Walking Dead or MadMax. Most of us have no chance going it alone, and would need to join a group.

BUT for a more “normal crisis” like a hurricane or killer snow storm, nothing is better than a long wheel base Suburban/Yukon XL. It’s got enough room to carry you’re family and all the stuff you’ll need for 2 weeks on the INSIDE of the vehicle, and assuming you have 4x4, can get through bad roads.

I would put a little more tint on the windows and more aggressive tires, maybe a few extra gas tanks on top like Land Cruisers. But again if it’s real serious shit where people carry guns, then I think none of this matters, it’ll be too late for most people, unfortunately.


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[Burby]

Our Suburban will make a nice shelter but I'll make supply runs on my Pugsley.

 

[Doubeleive]

i think id want a dirt bike, or a enduro at least, its good off road, skinny enough to get by most traffic jams. get some saddle bags to hold gas and gear and run away lol

Doubeleive is right tho, most of us are dead pretty fast.

you know them crazy prepper people, not so crazy now are they, those will be the ones who survive longest.

The crazy that's inside us is what will take over, you would see people doing anything to survive including cannibalism, the pets and farm animals go first, then whatever small game that can be caught, then when the hunger really sets in an arm or a leg. it just rolls back to survival of the fittest.

 

[GTNator]

LOL, maybe it’s going to happen sooner than we think....

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/10/07/world/climate-change-new-ipcc-report-wxc/index.html



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[Scottydoggs]

LOL, maybe it’s going to happen sooner than we think....

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/10/07/world/climate-change-new-ipcc-report-wxc/index.html



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you know anything cnn says is 100% ********. right? those reports are made up too. they all lie to get money. lots of money, why trump puled us out of that crap. he could see through the BS a mile away.

 

[Doubeleive]

I remember watching tv shows back in the day when people were not so squirmy about stuff and they did studies where they put rats in a cage then added more rats so it was kind of crowded, some of the rats would fight a little with each other but not so bad, then they would slowly take away the food and water........the rats would go crazy and literally battle it out to the death and even eat each other. basically population studies, they probably still do them but there just not televised like they used to be, interesting stuff really makes you think what would happen.

 

[Doubeleive]

LOL, maybe it’s going to happen sooner than we think....

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/10/07/world/climate-change-new-ipcc-report-wxc/index.html



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The problem with the media is they sensationalize almost anything and make a big bold title that's a pure "theory" of whoever or whatever and people read the headline and not the story and just go off the deep end to think it's the truth then you have a legion of misinformed lemmings running off a cliff

 

[GTNator]

I remember watching tv shows back in the day when people were not so squirmy about stuff and they did studies where they put rats in a cage then added more rats so it was kind of crowded, some of the rats would fight a little with each other but not so bad, then they would slowly take away the food and water........the rats would go crazy and literally battle it out to the death and even eat each other. basically population studies, they probably still do them but there just not televised like they used to be, interesting stuff really makes you think what would happen.

Wait, isn’t that from a James Bond movie, lol?


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[Doubeleive]

Wait, isn’t that from a James Bond movie, lol?


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Nope this was back in the 60's if you google it some of them can be found on youtube

and this one is actually from 1983 but there are many others