Rocket Man's 02 Denali Build Thread AKA "THE BEAST"

[Rocket Man]

Long ago, when I replaced the carpet, I made the mistake of deciding to strip the carpet from the bottom of the front door panels and replace it with matching carpet I ordered with the kit. If you’ve ever thought of doing this, don’t. The factory stuff is foam backed and bonded to the door panel and it’s about impossible to strip it and get the surface to accept new stuff. Anyway it’s been peeling ever since I did this. I used 3M Super 77 spray adhesive. I decided to replace the carpet again and used the same stuff but this time I cleaned everything with lacquer thinner. It’s been on a few days in hot weather and the passenger side started coming off already. Anybody know something stronger? I’m considering using construction adhesive but not sure. It’s frustrating. I did a damn near perfect job and still having issues.

 

[Tonyrodz]

Long ago, when I replaced the carpet, I made the mistake of deciding to strip the carpet from the bottom of the front door panels and replace it with matching carpet I ordered with the kit. If you’ve ever thought of doing this, don’t. The factory stuff is foam backed and bonded to the door panel and it’s about impossible to strip it and get the surface to accept new stuff. Anyway it’s been peeling ever since I did this. I used 3M Super 77 spray adhesive. I decided to replace the carpet again and used the same stuff but this time I cleaned everything with lacquer thinner. It’s been on a few days in hot weather and the passenger side started coming off already. Anybody know something stronger? I’m considering using construction adhesive but not sure. It’s frustrating. I did a damn near perfect job and still having issues.

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I assume you sprayed both pieces and let them tack up 1st. That stuff usually never fails. I bet that construction adhesive wouldn't give up the ghost. Gonna do liquid nails? If you use that, just spread it out thin so once it dries it'll dry flat and not bumpy.

 

[Fosscore]

I concur with Tony. Liquid Nails is usually a fail safe, but it is unlikely to ever come off....well for you it will come off...just not without a few pages of work. Gotta dig back into both threads from the last few months and see your work man. I am sure it will keep me occupied for a few days! lol

 

[Dantheman1540]

I've never had good luck with spray adhesive Florida just gets too hot. Liquid nails is about the only glue that does as expected.

 

[GreyStone]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Permatex-3-oz-Clear-Silicone-Adhesive-Sealant-75151/302775054

 

[Rocket Man]

Yeah I sprayed both pieces and let them sit for 10 minutes, it said max was 15 and I wanted to be sure it was ready. I ordered 3M Industrial High Strength 90. I’ll give it a try, and if it fails I’ll use construction adhesive. The 90 is supposed to be way stronger than the 77.

 

[wjburken]

I'd use this. Apply with a foam roller to both your door and the back of the carpet and let tack up. Press into place and use a J-roller.

 

[Rocket Man]

I'd use this. Apply with a foam roller to both your door and the back of the carpet and let tack up. Press into place and use a J-roller.

That’s what the High Strength 90 is supposed to be, in spray form. I guess I’ll see, nobody had it local so I Amazon’d it.

 

[ivin74]

I'd use this. Apply with a foam roller to both your door and the back of the carpet and let tack up. Press into place and use a J-roller.

I used this stuff in the past on some vinyl and it only lasted several months. I won't be using this stuff anymore, try the liquid nails.

 

[adventurenali92]

Wow... I’m so glad my door panels don’t have carpet on them... hahaha. I believe some 2005 trucks didn’t have carpeted door panels and every 2006 I’ve seen in person doesn’t have carpeted door panels. I wonder why GM decided to do away with the carpeted door panels...

 

[Rocket Man]

Wow... I’m so glad my door panels don’t have carpet on them... hahaha. I believe some 2005 trucks didn’t have carpeted door panels and every 2006 I’ve seen in person doesn’t have carpeted door panels. I wonder why GM decided to do away with the carpeted door panels...

Not sure why they did away with them. All I know is they were fine until I decided to strip the original carpet off and install the stuff I bought from Stock Interiors. I think part of the problem is the new carpet has a smooth vinyl back as opposed to the thin foam that the original had on it. I couldn’t strip that stuff off for the life of me, it was glued so good it only came off in small pieces and it was still in perfect shape. It just wasn’t the same as the carpet on the floor. Lesson learned.

 

[George B]

Not sure why they did away with them. All I know is they were fine until I decided to strip the original carpet off and install the stuff I bought from Stock Interiors. I think part of the problem is the new carpet has a smooth vinyl back as opposed to the thin foam that the original had on it. I couldn’t strip that stuff off for the life of me, it was glued so good it only came off in small pieces and it was still in perfect shape. It just wasn’t the same as the carpet on the floor. Lesson learned.

Does the glue pull off the door skin or off the carpet backing? You may need to find a compatible glue that will bite i to that backing. Or, use something to prime it for adhesive.

 

[Rocket Man]

Does the glue pull off the door skin or off the carpet backing? You may need to find a compatible glue that will bite i to that backing. Or, use something to prime it for adhesive.

A little of both. I’m thinking it’s the heat since it seems to fail after a stretch of hot weather. The 90 is supposed to be better in heat. Here’s the first carpet I installed, I cut new pieces this last time again.

 

[George B]

A little of both. I’m thinking it’s the heat since it seems to fail after a stretch of hot weather. The 90 is supposed to be better in heat. Here’s the first carpet I installed, I cut new pieces this last time again.

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I have a tube of this stuff. It’s good to over 300F.
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company...ct-Adhesive-1357/?N=5002385+3293242410&rt=rud

 

[Dantheman1540]

I tried using the 90 and it failed miserably for me. Hopefully it works better for you.

 

[George B]

Plio-bond is awesome stuff too.
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/pliobond.php

 

[Rocket Man]

I tried using the 90 and it failed miserably for me. Hopefully it works better for you.

Did you use the industrial grade? I was reading some reviews on the regular 90 and people were wondering if they changed the formula and reviews were down but the industrial grade was getting 4.5 star reviews still.

 

[Rocket Man]

I have a tube of this stuff. It’s good to over 300F.
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company...ct-Adhesive-1357/?N=5002385+3293242410&rt=rud

Damn. $20 for a 5 oz tube which wouldn’t be near enough or $49 for 32 oz or $44 for 16 oz. on Amazon.

 

[Rocket Man]

Thanks guys I now have plenty of options. I’m thinking of cancelling the 90 and getting either the Plio-bond or the 3M 1357.

 

[George B]

Damn. $20 for a 5 oz tube which wouldn’t be near enough or $49 for 32 oz or $44 for 16 oz. on Amazon.

It was old stock from work that was used for one job and then bound for the dumpster so I snagged it. We used plio bond a-lot for industrial gaskets. Use in a well ventilated area unless you like being high on glue!