Electric Suburban / Electric Tahoe / Yukon / Escalade EV

[cardude2000]

One never gets their money back with solar, soon as the panels are paid off they're dead and need replacement. And then with windmills, they only produce power for about 2-3 hours per day at most; generally speaking. Makes people feel good but still not practical.

Lol. Honestly. It’s like you guys get your information from pamphlets handed out by the coal industry during the Nixon era.

Current degradation rates of solar panels is between .1-.8% annually....meaning in a worst case scenario you are looking at panels with 84% operational efficiency after 20 years.

 

[Doubeleive]

when it is all said and done there will be no "cost" saving by going to electric, your local, state and federal government lives off of the gas tax, they will find a way to keep getting the money
lets say you go buy a nice electric Hummer, yay you now produce less carbon than your neighbor with a gas powered hummer
but.....
making your battery for that hummer just ****** you, it will take you 10 years with that original battery to actually have a "equal" carbon footprint to your neighbor with the gas guzzler
by then you will have to purchase a new battery which gets you no-where carbon footprint wise.

 

[cardude2000]

when it is all said and done there will be no "cost" saving by going to electric, your local, state and federal government lives off of the gas tax, they will find a way to keep getting the money
lets say you go buy a nice electric Hummer, yay you now produce less carbon than your neighbor with a gas powered hummer
but.....
making your battery for that hummer just ****** you, it will take you 10 years with that original battery to actually have a "equal" carbon footprint to your neighbor with the gas guzzler
by then you will have to purchase a new battery which gets you no-where carbon footprint wise.

Sounds like you probably shouldn’t buy the new GM HUMMER EV.

*shrug*

 

[swathdiver]

Lol. Honestly. It’s like you guys get your information from pamphlets handed out by the coal industry during the Nixon era.

Current degradation rates of solar panels is between .1-.8% annually....meaning in a worst case scenario you are looking at panels with 84% operational efficiency after 20 years.

Oh Mr. Contrarian, you know so much that isn't so.

I'd rather my electric Suburban get its power from a nuclear or coal or oil fired plant and not some windmill farm that wipes out tens of thousands of birds, needlessly, let alone hundreds of acres of former farmland reclaimed for solar panels.

 

[Doubeleive]

Sounds like you probably shouldn’t buy the new GM HUMMER EV.

*shrug*

there is no point in buying one or any EV it makes no difference, they would like for you think it makes a difference though

 

[cardude2000]

Oh Mr. Contrarian, you know so much that isn't so.

I'd rather my electric Suburban get its power from a nuclear or coal or oil fired plant and not some windmill farm that wipes out tens of thousands of birds, needlessly, let alone hundreds of acres of former farmland reclaimed for solar panels.

He says unable to refute anything I said.

Honestly [emoji23]

 

[cardude2000]

there is no point in buying one or any EV it makes no difference, they would like for you think it makes a difference though

It makes a big difference in torque, moving parts, convenience and gadget factor.

I won’t try to argue the environmental benefits because I can’t imagine you care.

That’s cool. To each his/her own.

 

[K2 Kaiju]

It makes a big difference in torque, moving parts, convenience and gadget factor.

I won’t try to argue the environmental benefits because I can’t imagine you care.

That’s cool. To each his/her own.

LOL, says the guy driving a 3 ton vehicle with a 6.2L engine. Do as I say, not as I do huh? The law of conservation of energy states that it is neither created nor destroyed. The heat loss from mining, transporting, and burning coal to transmit power through a line to a plug to a battery in a car adds up; each step bleeds energy. Simply measuring output from an e car does not mean squat. Your still in the political "has a heart" stage of life. When you get to the "has a brain" stage you can converse with men who know. Just vote your rights away and pay your carbon taxes...

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[cardude2000]

LOL, says the guy driving a 3 ton vehicle with a 6.2L engine. Do as I say, not as I do huh? The law of conservation of energy states that it is neither created nor destroyed. The heat loss from mining, transporting, and burning coal to transmit power through a line to a plug to a battery in a car adds up; each step bleeds energy. Simply measuring output from an e car does not mean squat. Your still in the political "has a heart" stage of life. When you get to the "has a brain" stage you can converse with men who know. Just vote your rights away and pay your carbon taxes...

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You seem really emotional and I’m sorry for that.

I never said I cared about the environment nor that I would buy an EV for environmentally beneficial purposes.

I suggest reading more recent peer reviewed studies regarding the subject as many include the full life cycle of the vehicles. Come back after that if you want to engage in a more meaningful, fact based, discussion.

Pro tip: I also suggest picking up a book on grammar. Hard to convincingly argue that you have a solid grasp of thermodynamics when you can’t even discern when to use “your” and “you’re”.

 

[randeez]

im sure that hose on the end of the gas pump goes directly into 93 octane naturally found in the ground.

LOL, says the guy driving a 3 ton vehicle with a 6.2L engine. Do as I say, not as I do huh? The law of conservation of energy states that it is neither created nor destroyed. The heat loss from mining, transporting, and burning coal to transmit power through a line to a plug to a battery in a car adds up; each step bleeds energy. Simply measuring output from an e car does not mean squat. Your still in the political "has a heart" stage of life. When you get to the "has a brain" stage you can converse with men who know. Just vote your rights away and pay your carbon taxes...

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i dont drive my yukon 40k miles a year, a hybrid is good for MY bottom line, sorry about your taxes.
coal isnt the only resourced used to generate power, think of all of the power necessary to refine crude oil into usable fuel, all the power needed to ship it around the country, all the gas stations that have to be powered to transfer it into your vehicle. you make a whole to do about the process but seem to get amnesia about fossil fuel fringe costs, wastes. an electric motor is more efficient than an internal combustion engine. there isnt spillage, there isnt rich conditions tanking fuel economy, there isnt motor oil to change.

it goes like this to make an electric car move:

power plant>to my house> my house to my car> it moves. if i drop some electrons on the ground no big deal

 

[K2 Kaiju]

He says unable to refute anything I said.

Honestly [emoji23]

Your telling me - every time you get hit with facts you switch to grammar and hysterical appeal.

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[K2 Kaiju]

And how many accounts you got there car200?

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[K2 Kaiju]

im sure that hose on the end of the gas pump goes directly into 93 octane naturally found in the ground.



i dont drive my yukon 40k miles a year, a hybrid is good for MY bottom line, sorry about your taxes.
coal isnt the only resourced used to generate power, think of all of the power necessary to refine crude oil into usable fuel, all the power needed to ship it around the country, all the gas stations that have to be powered to transfer it into your vehicle. you make a whole to do about the process but seem to get amnesia about fossil fuel fringe costs, wastes. an electric motor is more efficient than an internal combustion engine. there isnt spillage, there isnt rich conditions tanking fuel economy, there isnt motor oil to change.

it goes like this to make an electric car move:

power plant>to my house> my house to my car> it moves. if i drop some electrons on the ground no big deal

I never said gas was any better, just electric isnt as good as people make it out to be. Renewable energy is far outpaced by population. I have a nice 328 for my commuter - 35mpg and no strong electric fields frying my prostate...

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[cardude2000]

Your telling me - every time you get hit with facts you switch to grammar and hysterical appeal.

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Yawn.

You put out nothing meaningful to refute. Of course there is loss due to transmission but it comes nowhere close to eclipsing the massive benefits gained from the efficiencies of producing power in a centralized efficient modern plant. You also don’t mention the cost and impact of pipelines, refineries, gas stations, gas distribution via semi’s etc...not to mention endless wars and lives all to protect stable/low petroleum prices.

Is that really what you wanted? Because boy was that easy lol.

Like I said, read up on the subject and come back.

Or not.

Watching you embarrass yourself is also enjoyable. *shrug*

Oh and it’s ‘you’re’.

 

[cardude2000]

And how many accounts you got there car200?

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Accounts where? Why do folks with horrific grammar and a loose grasp on facts always think there is a conspiracy afoot? lol

 

[Miami-Dade]

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[cardude2000]

Fair enough. No more arguing about windmill cancer etc. Let’s talk neat tricks EV’s can do...I vote the tank turn and 42” of water depth at the top o the list


https://insideevs.com/news/389721/video-rivian-r1t-r1s-tank-turn/


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[vettes980]

Pretty sure everyone on here loves driving, the feel of a flooring a 6.2 gets me every day. Driving an EV is no less fun, stop playing identity politics in your minds about who has a better argument and go drive one. I can’t wait to fuel up in my garage again after leasing an EV. Tesla has answered the naysayers about range anxiety. Drive ANYWHERE in the US on the supercharger network, getting 80% charge in 20 minutes. If I can’t figure out why my Denali stalls randomly I’m going straight to Chrysler for the Hybrid Pacifica as it allows my wife to drive electric for what she needs to haul the brood around. The next few years are going to be exciting to see what new EV cars are released.


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[GTNator]

Yes, let’s leave our politics at the door and focus on facts and technology. I don’t even know how this became a political issue.

GM itself is saying that EVs are the future and they are determined to be a leader in the automotive industry regardless of the fuel that’s used (period). The current view is that the fuel of the future is electrons. Who knows maybe in 40 years you’ll be able to use waste water as fuel, but for now and based on everything we know today, it’s going electric. And GM is smart and will continue to build great cars and trucks, using more and more EV motors.

GM’s “All-electric future”. Straight from the top:

CEO Mary Barra confirmed the Detroit automaker's electrification plans on a conference call with investors Tuesday following first-quarter earnings results.

"GM has an industry-leading truck franchise and industry-leading electrification capabilities. I assure you we will not cede our leadership on either front," Barra said. "We intend to create an all-electric future that includes a complete range of EVs — including full-size pickups."

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...nfirms-plan-build-electric-pickup/3626575002/

GM will continue to innovate to stay relevant and stay great. Now let’s share and post articles and facts about GM’s awesome plans and achievements in electrification technology!


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[Miami-Dade]

Driving an EV is no less fun, stop playing identity politics in your minds about who has a better argument and go drive one.

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