Differences between 00-02 and 03-06 models

[mikez71]

OK, what dip-hat showed up at GM in '05? (or '04, to demand this change for the following year?)

Also not an option in the '06 manual.

I thought someone said they released updated calibrations for '06 & '07, but still not '05... (could have been trucks)

 

[Fless]

OK, what dip-hat showed up at GM in '05? (or '04, to demand this change for the following year?)

Also not an option in the '06 manual.

I thought someone said they released updated calibrations for '06 & '07, but still not '05... (could have been trucks)

They could have released new calibrations but they'd be pretty old now. Only way to tell is for someone with programming ability to check current vs. available, I would think. I could have done it with my Tech 2 and laptop while I had it, using TIS2000.

 

[adventurenali92]

99-02 trucks (00-02 SUVs) don't have that cluster type, so no. Well, at least not my 99 Silverado doesn't have that option, not sure if it was added on the 00-02 SUVs? 99-02 clusters have that message center and the odometer only shows gear selections and mileage:
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I'm not sure if the early 03+ SUV models have that door option? I think that's what @mikez71 was asking on post #41?

My 06 suburban does have those options on the cluster...

Oh maybe I misunderstood him. I knew that the 00-02 SUVs didn’t have that feature programmable because essentially the DIC doesn’t function like the DIC in the 03-06 clusters. I read it that his 2005 doesn’t have that feature even though he has the correct DIC screen menu options in the 2005. Maybe I’m just not understanding any of it correctly lol.

Also edit to add: so you guys are saying that programmable automatic locking feature is ONLY an option on 2005-2006 rigs and not 2003-2004? Am I understanding that correctly? I seem to remember the 2003 and 2004 Denali rigs that were in my youth pastors family that detailed for all of them all back when he a slicing with them had that feature. Maybe I’m mistaken in that. I just assumed they all had it 2003-2006.

 

[mikez71]

From what I can tell, they all have the auto locking.
But you CAN disable it in '03-'04, NOT in '05 or '06.

Somewhere I read you can key on/off and do a button press sequence to disable it..
..so MAYBE a hidden option for earlier DIC-less models.

 

[Fless]

From what I can tell, they all have the auto locking.
But you CAN disable it in '03-'04, NOT in '05 or '06.

Somewhere I read you can key on/off and do a button press sequence to disable it..
..so MAYBE a hidden option for earlier DIC-less models.

The first part of your statement is how I understand it. Auto locking is on 2003-2006, but auto UNlocking seems to have ended with the 2004 MY.

The 2005 owner's manual has the DIC-less procedure, which I posted in post #60 of this thread. You might try it to see if there's an option #3 for NO auto locking (doubtful) as shown in the 2004 manual.

 

[Marky Dissod]

From what I can tell, they all have the auto locking.
But you CAN disable it in '03-'04, NOT in '05 or '06.

Somewhere I read you can key on/off and do a button press sequence to disable it..
..so MAYBE a hidden option for earlier DIC-less models.

Don't know if it helps to mention, in '02 ...

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Page 94 in the pdf, or 2-8 in the old-fashioned page turner ...

"The following is a list of the available programming options:
1 All doors lock/Only the driver’s door unlocks: Press the lock side of the power lock switch on the door panel once and then the unlock side once.
2 All doors lock/All doors unlock: Press the lock side of the power lock switch on the door panel once, and then the unlock side twice.
3 All doors lock/None of the doors unlock: Press the lock side of the power lock switch on the door panel once, and then the unlock side three times.
4 No doors lock/None of the doors unlock: Press the lock side of the power lock switch on the door panel twice. This turns off the automatic lock feature."

I programmed mine so all doors lock / no doors ever unlock.
Options 1 & 2 seem like inviting a carjack. Option 3 makes the most sense of the four. Option 4 is still better than 1 or 2, but not quite as safe as Option 3.

 

[mikez71]

The first part of your statement is how I understand it. Auto locking is on 2003-2006, but auto UNlocking seems to have ended with the 2004 MY.

I can still auto-UNlock, I just don't want it to lock in the first place!

I missed that part about the 4 option UNLOCK programming! (But again I don't want it to lock at all..)
It's one extra step when you're trying to ghost ride it!
And it looks like the '02 would have the option I want as #4, but they changed the options by '05..

Now if I could get the remote to unlock all doors with 1 press, everything would be perfect for my simple little brain..

 

[adventurenali92]

From what I can tell, they all have the auto locking.
But you CAN disable it in '03-'04, NOT in '05 or '06.

Somewhere I read you can key on/off and do a button press sequence to disable it..
..so MAYBE a hidden option for earlier DIC-less models.

Yeah still confused cuz like I said my doors on my 2006 are set to lock as soon as so go out of work and they automatically unlock when I put it back in park. That being said carjacking in the mountains where I live is pretty much non existent. I don’t have to worry about it and my doors unlocking while I’m still in when I park somewhere in town. When I go off the mountain, to certain areas, like certain parts of San Bernardino, that are sketch(which is rare) and some other areas further out like the pick n pull yard that’s out right by port of Long Beach, I set my locks to only Auto Unlock the drivers door when the truck is off. And then I get out and just lock it. Thankfully never had an issue even in those sketch areas. But then again 2A….. lol

 

[mikez71]

Again...(third times a charm?)

I don't want them to LOCK at all..
Don't need to worry how they UN-lock, if they don't LOCK in the first place!

I'm with Baby Joker on this..

 

[mikez71]

Confirmed, Ewalt Auto Tuning's BCM does give me the option to manually lock my '05 burb finally! No more auto door locks!

*BUT* I need to relearn the SRS airbag module (and VATS) to the BCM..
Having issues programming the BCM to SIR.. B1001 option config error.. It's not a simple (or do-able?) option apparently..
Why is everything Chevy such a process?

 

[Marky Dissod]

Why is everything with Chevy such a process?

Because they want to feel needed?

 

[Marky Dissod]

Why is everything with Chevy such a process?

Because they want to feel needed?

By the way, I'm not an aspiring comedian - you know I'm right, though, that's why you laughed.
Most people would not use dealerships for maintenance & repairs if they knew of independent mech shops competently capable of matching dealer mech services.

What GM (and other automakers) have left is to increase complexity ... to create needs where none previously existed.

Always fantasized about what kind of vehicles could be created by experienced mechanics if they ALONE were to spec & design automobiles ...

 

[mikez71]

By the way, I'm not an aspiring comedian - you know I'm right, though, that's why you laughed.

What GM (and other automakers) have left is to increase complexity ... to create needs where none previously existed.

I laughed, but really wanted to cry..

 

[Marky Dissod]

I laughed, but really wanted to cry.

Me too, because the closest we're likely to get to vehicles designed by mechanics is pre-'03 GMT800s.
No way the gov't or any automaker on the planet would allow vehicles whose complexity harkens BACK to sometime between early nineties & early noughties.