At the point of getting rid of our 2016 Denali

[abright52]

However, I'm not sure what trim level to look at to ensure it does not have the magnetic ride. We were going to look at a 2016 LTZ yesterday, but the dealer said it had it. I would like to know how to determine it for myself. The dealer may tell me it does thinking it is a good thing.

Magnetic Ride Control is RPO code "Z95". If that code is present on the RPO sticker in the glove box, then the vehicle is equipped with Mag Ride.

Most salesmen will send you a pic of the codes if you ask via email.

 

[Agent WD-40]

I know this doesn’t help you in your current situation but I’ve noticed the ride has gotten softer each year. I’ve had the chance to spend some time in some 2018s (short and long wheelbase with magnetic ride) and the ride is definitely smoother than I recall the 15s and 16s I’ve driven in. Don’t have any experience with a 2017 so cannot comment on that year but I’ve been impressed with the ride of the 2018.

I should add I’ve driven 2018s with the 20”and 22” and didn’t notice a huge difference. I’m sure the 20s ride better just wasn’t back to back with 22” for me to compare and comment.

 

[fordfest]

I'm taking it to another dealer. When I told the service manager we had a rough ride, he immediately said they have had several with a stuck strut. Just this simple comment shows the difference between this dealership and my normal servicing dealership.
Look forward to seeing what that find later this week.

While I'm there, I will have them address the driverside auto running board that keeps sticking in the down position and the rear glass spoiler that keeps getting caught on the roof.


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[iamdub]

I recall a post where someone had two of them locked-up: one on the front and one on the opposite side in the rear. It made for some squirrelly handling!. Supposedly, they were damaged when the shop raised the car on the lift and it maxed out the shocks, damaging them.

 

[Addicted]

I'm taking it to another dealer. When I told the service manager we had a rough ride, he immediately said they have had several with a stuck strut. Just this simple comment shows the difference between this dealership and my normal servicing dealership.
Look forward to seeing what that find later this week.

While I'm there, I will have them address the driverside auto running board that keeps sticking in the down position and the rear glass spoiler that keeps getting caught on the roof.


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Good to hear. Good luck.

 

[dmad1]

My '17 Tahoe LT does not have the MRC and supposedly has the "Soft Suspension Ride" pkg. and the ride is worse than the 2500 Duramax I had. Would trade back for our '12 Tahoe in a second.

 

[Stresst]

Unfortunately the ride does suck! First I had a 2000 Escalade on factory 16's, then a 2007 Denali with factory 20's, then 2010 Platinum Escalade and now a 2017 Luxury which I purchased new and let me tell you that that the 2000 had a smoother ride! Dont get me wrong, it was a POS compared to the newer trucks but MUCH SMOOTHER! The 2000 had nearly 200k on it while my 2017 doesn't have 10k miles on it so how the eff can the old POS ride better? I believe the large rims have a lot to do with it!

 

[Kpwweb]

Just to add fuel to the fire. I was going down the interstate the other day and a Tahoe LTZ merged in. Looked like a 2015.5. I couldn't believe how much it was "pogo-sticking" down the road! I mean literally, the front was bouncing up and down several inches over every little bump. And not just a "wallow" over the bump--this was a violent pitch. Like boing-boing-boing. I watched it for several miles because I literally couldn't believe it. Something had to be wrong with that one. I was dumb-founded the owner/driver didn't think something was not right! Meanwhile, I was just cruising along in my LT (with tow package) and front Bilsteins 5100s. I was having a much better ride than they were. I'm actually happy with my LT ride.

 

[Nashoba]

I guess y'all know I am an old codger by now. And since I hit 71 in August, my ways are older, slower, and easier than when I was 35. But I have always liked my tires to be a size or two wider than what came on the vehicle, if they would fit with adequate clearance and if they had the same height sidewall. Our current rides, the 2008 Tahoe Hybrid 2X2 and 2015 Silverado 4X4 Doublecab have the same size tires. Both ride well on 265/65 R18 rolling stock. The sidewall are generous and the ride in both is silky smooth on good roads. Both do well on bad roads, too, although the Silverado will dance on dirt and gravel rub board roads. The Silverado came with 20" rims but the dealership had changed them out to another vehicle before I bought it new. I was so happy about that as I would have had to switch them out because I don't want weak rims on my 4X4 vehicles because they tend to ride rough anyway. For me, the taller the sidewall, the better the ride, so I'd try 20" rims with 45 or 55 aspect sidewalls before I'd get rid of such a nice ride.

 

[swathdiver]

I guess y'all know I am an old codger by now. And since I hit 71 in August, my ways are older, slower, and easier than when I was 35. But I have always liked my tires to be a size or two wider than what came on the vehicle, if they would fit with adequate clearance and if they had the same height sidewall. Our current rides, the 2008 Tahoe Hybrid 2X2 and 2015 Silverado 4X4 Doublecab have the same size tires. Both ride well on 265/65 R18 rolling stock. The sidewall are generous and the ride in both is silky smooth on good roads. Both do well on bad roads, too, although the Silverado will dance on dirt and gravel rub board roads. The Silverado came with 20" rims but the dealership had changed them out to another vehicle before I bought it new. I was so happy about that as I would have had to switch them out because I don't want weak rims on my 4X4 vehicles because they tend to ride rough anyway. For me, the taller the sidewall, the better the ride, so I'd try 20" rims with 45 or 55 aspect sidewalls before I'd get rid of such a nice ride.

These youngsters never got to experience that the best part of the ride is in the sidewall. They didn't get to ride in cars with 75 series tires that would keep their 7-Eleven Big Gulp from spilling while driving through the streets of New York City or Detroit! The ride was so smooth, even our on board record players didn't skip! LOL

 

[Nashoba]

AMEN to that.

 

[fordfest]

You do have to wonder how many owners think the pogo stick ride is how it should be. Our 07 on oem 20" wheels had a good ride, even better when I changed to the winter wheel/tire, which was a set of oem 18" tire/wheel.
Don't get me wrong, the 22" wheels look sharp, but not practical.


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[01FormulaTA]

The new Lincoln Navigators are pretty clean...New 10 Speed co-developed with GM, same engine as the new Raptor, 510 lb-ft @ 3,000 rpm so Im sure it should drive way better than the Denali, and the reviews have all been VERY positive....

 

[Nashoba]

But.......it is still a FORD.

 

[iamdub]

But.......it is still a FORD.

Point? If I had ~$70K to blow on a fullsize SUV, I'd spend it on whatever didn't have similar shortcomings as a '99 Cavalier. I understand being loyal to a brand, but I want my loyalty to be appreciated and rewarded, not exploited.

 

[Nashoba]

Maybe I have just been lucky, maybe not. We have owned maybe five FORD products since we were married in 1969. Four were total duds and one, a used 1978 Continental Mark V we bought used in 1982 was acceptable. All the other FORDS were just sorry, troublesome, expensive to keep running crap. We have had only one GM product that was crap that we bought. It was a new 1978 Monte Carlo and we got rid of it in six months. And my dad gave me a Lime Green Vega with 20K on it one year because I worked weekends to help him prepare tax return extensions he had to get clients one season. He gave me the Vega in return for the $1,000 I had earned. It was just an awful vehicle as everyone knows. All the other vehicles we have owned the last 49 years have been better than any FORDS we ever owned.

 

[01FormulaTA]

Maybe you didn't mention it but it doesn't sound like you have driven any of Fords newer products, I have never driven anything from 1978 but I would imagine any 40 year old vehicle from any manufacturer would seem like a POS when compared to something newer...Ive had 4 Fords and they all performed flawlessly, to this day my favorite vehicle I have ever owned was my 2004 Cobra, it was better in every way than my 2001 Z06 except the gas mileage...but my last 6 vehicles have been GM mainly because I love tinkering with LS engines, that being said if I was in the market for a new truck or sports car I would only be looking at a Dodge or Ford, not a fan of the new GM LTX engines and the interiors on the Dodge and Ford trucks is light years ahead of anything GM has to offer....IMO Ford knocked it out of the park with the new Navigator and it looks and performs better than any competitive GM product in every metric

 

[jpcortese]

The new Lincoln Navigators are pretty clean...New 10 Speed co-developed with GM, same engine as the new Raptor, 510 lb-ft @ 3,000 rpm so Im sure it should drive way better than the Denali, and the reviews have all been VERY positive....

Last Saturday my wife and I test drove the 2018 Tahoe, the 2018 Yukon Denali and the new 2018 Expedition. My current ride is a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The Jeep has been flawless but we want something a little larger. I've had 2 Expeditions in the past and they too were flawless. Keep in mind my wife is not a car person, so take her views with a grain of salt. In her opinion, the Expedition rode the best, had more 2nd and 3rd row leg room and performed similar to the GM vehicles, even though it had the V6 engine. She thought the ride in the GM products was harsher and more truck like. She also thought the interior was nice in all the vehicles. She didn't like at all the platform in the cargo area in the GM products. What I didn't like about the Expedition was the rotary shifter. Don't count the Ford products out since in our view they are very nice and compare well. BTW, I wanted to see and drive the new Navigator but the salesperson told me that they didn't have any in stock and that they sell unseen and have a waiting list. Also, the Expedition was fully loaded and price wise was in the same ballpark as the GM products (similarly equipted). BTW, as a side note Motor Trend did a comparison of large SUV's in the April edition of their magazine and rated the Expedition first, the Dodge Durango second, the Chevy Tahoe third and the Nissan Armada fourth. We did not decide or buy anything and I feel like I should wait to see the new GM products when they are restyled.

 

[PG01]

I was driving in New York yesterday. They have horrific sections of roads, bad enough that on certain sections I felt the rear end kick out several times. Swear it was coming off the road. Scary as hell. Up until then, I hadn't had any complaints. I will never drive that road again lol

My 'Burb LT only has the standard suspension. She rides really nice otherwise.

I had a 05 Escalade. While the super fancy suspension was nice, once they start having issues it gets old real quick. I highly recommend you check out a highly decked out LT or Premier. Without the magnetic crap

Hey now.....

 

[Nashoba]

Well guys, all my opinions on vehicles comes from my formative years up through my college years. My dad owned five NAPA stores and I worked every day after school, Saturday mornings in one of them beginning when I was 12 or 13. So my whole life back then was dominated by just about anything with a motor and 2 or 4 wheels. I remember only a '46 Crown Vic and a '59 Fairlane that my dad ever bought. The rest were Cadillacs, Buicks, Oldsmobiles and the occasional Chevy with a couple of Plymouths in the mix. So, my preference for GM vehicles was formed early and has not changed. In my humble opinion, the Mustang GT is probably the only FORD I would ever consider purchasing. And as I am 70, I would look pretty foolish driving one of them. But the variety of brands of everything including vehicles, is great, that proves we do not all have to think alike and have the same preferences. Isn't it great to live in America?