Think my engine just failed

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Donnie Yukonie

Yates Caretaker
Joined
Jul 31, 2011
Posts
5,127
Reaction score
164
Sucks, sucks, sucks. Dealer gonna drop a new or running motor on it and gonna sell it for retail value and get all its wort out of it and maybe then some. Someone local to him Pick his truck up with a uhaul trailer, and then meet the next closest member, swap to their truck and so on until he gets this back somewhere he can have it fixed
x2 this sucks
 

02Lightning

Full Access Member
Joined
Jun 8, 2009
Posts
488
Reaction score
105
I think I would have rented a U-Haul truck and trailer before eating 10k. Then, figured out what to do with it when I got home.
 

OHSIXX

Full Access Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2011
Posts
3,764
Reaction score
226
Location
Milwaukee
Sux all around. Nothing else to say about it. Just another one of life's curveballs I guess :( best of luck to ya :Handshake:
 
OP
OP
D

domin8

Just Plinking
Joined
May 9, 2011
Posts
6,038
Reaction score
14
Location
Highland Park, IL. Transplant from SLC, UT to redu
What is, is. Sometimes life comes at you and there is nothing you can do except bend over and take it up the ass. I'm not happy about what happened, but I think I made the right decision as it applies to my family. Fortunately, I had already started working on a plan to improve things for the long term. I will be back in a Tahoe eventually. I just have to live with this ugly Gold ext/brown int Malibu. I'm blessed to be familiar with the engine inside and out as my wife's Cobalt has it too. Give me a years and I'll be in a better situation and get a new Tahoe instead of a used one.

Jenna, I believe this was a random failure. I always used top tier fuel, usually Shell or Chevron. The last fill up the Tahoe got was Conoco mid grade (88 octane). I used mid grade because of my tune. As for oil changes, I always performed them myself. I used Wix filters and and Valvoline Max Life 5w30. Last oil change was Saturday. DIC said 10% oil life remaining at the time of the oil change.
 

07Burb

GM fan for life
Staff member
Moderator Supporting Member Administrator
Joined
Jan 3, 2011
Posts
50,933
Reaction score
19,329
What is, is. Sometimes life comes at you and there is nothing you can do except bend over and take it up the ass. I'm not happy about what happened, but I think I made the right decision as it applies to my family. Fortunately, I had already started working on a plan to improve things for the long term. I will be back in a Tahoe eventually. I just have to live with this ugly Gold ext/brown int Malibu. I'm blessed to be familiar with the engine inside and out as my wife's Cobalt has it too. Give me a years and I'll be in a better situation and get a new Tahoe instead of a used one.

Jenna, I believe this was a random failure. I always used top tier fuel, usually Shell or Chevron. The last fill up the Tahoe got was Conoco mid grade (88 octane). I used mid grade because of my tune. As for oil changes, I always performed them myself. I used Wix filters and and Valvoline Max Life 5w30. Last oil change was Saturday. DIC said 10% oil life remaining at the time of the oil change.

That's all you can do, man, is make decisions that are best for your family :Handshake: Hopefully, you'll still come around often even without a Hoe currently in your possession. You can join the Malibu club with Timmy as he is without a Hoe and tootling around in a Malibu as well :hands: I do like the looks of the Malibu. If it was to get a car I'd consider it as an option.
 

Goodinblack

I Like Tacos
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Posts
22,295
Reaction score
3,046
Location
Dirty South
I feel sad for you reading this.......... but on the bright side you have your family and health......... God Bless.:)
 

MACHO

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2012
Posts
1,540
Reaction score
5
Location
Seattle, WA
R.I.P. Tahoe

Ditto to how sad this is. Very glad you and the fam have transportation and are safe tho!
 
OP
OP
D

domin8

Just Plinking
Joined
May 9, 2011
Posts
6,038
Reaction score
14
Location
Highland Park, IL. Transplant from SLC, UT to redu
I'm not going anywhere. I like this place too much. Plus, this forum will help keep me informed on all the Tahoe stuffs. I'm interested in seeing what the next gen Tahoe will bring to the table.

As for the Malibu, no doubt I got robbed. Well, technically my wife got robbed, and she seems to be loving it. Because I'm currently unemployed I couldn't be on the loan. Too much risk. She's so pleased with the dealer that she's going to write thank you letters. I'm just going to let her be ignorant of the numbers game in order to let sleeping dogs lay.

Btw, looks like the wife has been bitten by the mod bug for the Malibu. She's already asked for strut tower bar, rear sway bar, upgraded brakes, oem fog lights, 18 inch wheels, window tint, oem ltz trim led tail lights, rksport body kit, gm accessories spoiler, and gm accessories grill. At least the modding won't stop with this new car. She's also asked me to make the engine rumble like hers (her car has the same engine). Sounds like it needs intake and exhaust too.

I do have a question though, and maybe a poll should be started for this. Of all the people with NNBS trucks experiencing the engine oil consumption issue, have you ever been warned of the oil being too low by the truck computer while you were driving, or has it always been after the truck sat for a little bit and you go to restart the truck? In my case, I was only ever warned when I would start the truck. This makes me wonder if damage occurred to the bearing(s) during one of my long trips recently and not being informed until I stopped to top off the tank and stayed the truck again. If this is the case, I can see how the bearing held on as long as possible. I just wish it had held on 1,000 miles longer. If it had given out near my house this thread would be about me upgrading the engine to a 6.0 or 6.2.
 

SunlitComet

OBS Jedi-Do Good
Joined
Sep 30, 2010
Posts
16,206
Reaction score
188
Location
unknown at this time.
verbatim from service manual,

"the ipc illuminates the engine oil level low message in the dic when the ecm detect a low engine oil level condition. the ecm only monitors the oil level switch signal circuit for a brief period between key-on and ignition crank. the ipc receives a class 2 message from the ecm requesting illumination."

so you get a message at key on but you must rely on the oil pressure gauge to make sure you have continuous pressure level which has a minimum of 6, 18, and 24 psi at 1k,2k, and 4k rpm respectively.
 
OP
OP
D

domin8

Just Plinking
Joined
May 9, 2011
Posts
6,038
Reaction score
14
Location
Highland Park, IL. Transplant from SLC, UT to redu
Well, that answers that question. This explains how my theory is plausible. As long as pressure appears to be fine, you can run the engine dangerously low on oil and cause damage while driving long distance. It sure would be nice if GM were to change this for constant monitoring.
 
Last edited:

edgaranah1

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2011
Posts
3,049
Reaction score
12
Location
Corona California
Yup last time I got a LOW ENGINE OIL ADD OIL. It was when I started the Kon up. After it had been sitting for maybe half an hour. So I guess it is when you start it up. But you also said you had filled up about 15 miles before it failed seems weird that the DIC didn't show up anything.
This SUCKS man I have an 07 too.


Sent from my iPhone 4g using Tapatalk
 

Goodinblack

I Like Tacos
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Posts
22,295
Reaction score
3,046
Location
Dirty South
Well, that answers that question. This explains how my theory is plausible. As long as pressure appears to be fine, you can run the engine dangerously low on oil and cause damage while driving long distance. It sure would be nice if GM were to change this for constant monitoring.

This bothers me. Good to know.
 

AmazinglySmooth

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Posts
147
Reaction score
6
I never owned a GM product until my '11 Denali. I hope I don't regret it. Such an expense is ridiculous.
 

SunlitComet

OBS Jedi-Do Good
Joined
Sep 30, 2010
Posts
16,206
Reaction score
188
Location
unknown at this time.
Currently the system does not exist at lest in the automobile feasible world that could compensate and account for a moving vehicle with measuring the oil by weight to determine if a loss of oil volume has occurred. That is what the pressure gauge is supposed to help determine by it own way of showing a loss of pressure. And risk assessment dictates that when properly built the odds of massive oil loss are very high. But if it does happen once again it is expected that oil pressure will warn you. However the warning system may not be setup to monitor the minimums in current day. In the future this will change.
 

security6

TYF Newbie
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Posts
7
Reaction score
2
Currently the system does not exist at lest in the automobile feasible world that could compensate and account for a moving vehicle with measuring the oil by weight to determine if a loss of oil volume has occurred. That is what the pressure gauge is supposed to help determine by it own way of showing a loss of pressure. And risk assessment dictates that when properly built the odds of massive oil loss are very high. But if it does happen once again it is expected that oil pressure will warn you. However the warning system may not be setup to monitor the minimums in current day. In the future this will change.

Nobody measures oil by weight, but BMW has a system that monitors the oil level while driving. I've got a 2001 BMW 330i that has a low oil light that can light up while you are driving. GM could do the same thing, all it would take is a slight reprogram to have the oil level checked every few seconds instead of only at startup.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
137,749
Posts
1,991,158
Members
102,739
Latest member
D Rollins
Back
Top