Lots of tweeters…lots.

[Chickensandwich]

So I replaced the speakers in my front doors and dash…no amp or anything, just JBL club 194t in the dash and 6x9 JBL clubs in the doors. I had turn my treble to -12 due to way to much high frequency. Still needs less. Was I used to crap sound or is this a known issue when putting tweeters in the dash? I really don’t want an amp or anything but damn, the tweets are too much!

 

[mountie]

So I replaced the speakers in my front doors and dash…no amp or anything, just JBL club 194t in the dash and 6x9 JBL clubs in the doors. I had turn my treble to -12 due to way to much high frequency. Still needs less. Was I used to crap sound or is this a known issue when putting tweeters in the dash? I really don’t want an amp or anything but damn, the tweets are too much!

When I replaced my 4 door speakers, to Infinity ‘dual’s, I disconnected the factory tweeters at the dash - window posts, and the rears.

 

[Fless]

What sort of speakers did you replace in the doors? If they were low/mid-range (without high frequency tweeters) but were replaced by full-range speakers, then the high frequencies are now likely not filtered out as before (difference in speaker frequency response). I'm not sure if or where your OE speakers were filtered.

If there's no adjustment for it in the head unit you may need to add some sort of low/mid pass filter to the input of the door speakers, to attenuate the high frequencies. Leave the high freqs to the tweeters. Or think about cutting one of the wires to the new door speaker tweeters. YMMV

 

[Chickensandwich]

I forgot the model but they are JBL Club series 6x9. The dash speakers are JBL Club 194t. The rear door speakers get replace later this week. I’ve turned down the treble as far as it goes and it’s still a bit high. The dash speakers came with inline crossovers, which I used. Maybe I need a amp/dsp to fix the sound? I really wasn’t wanting to do that since a sub isn’t in the picture for me.

 

[Chickensandwich]

What sort of speakers did you replace in the doors? If they were low/mid-range (without high frequency tweeters) but were replaced by full-range speakers, then the high frequencies are now likely not filtered out as before (difference in speaker frequency response). I'm not sure if or where your OE speakers were filtered.

If there's no adjustment for it in the head unit you may need to add some sort of low/mid pass filter to the input of the door speakers, to attenuate the high frequencies. Leave the high freqs to the tweeters. Or think about cutting one of the wires to the new door speaker tweeters. YMMV

The speakers were just factory crap paper cones. I don’t have the Bose system.

 

[Fless]

Does the low freq side of the crossover you installed feed the door speaker? If not, the door speaker could be receiving and playing the whole spectrum. You may need to understand the OE system better to see which speakers handled which frequencies.

 

[Chickensandwich]

The door speakers were simple plug and play. The dash speakers are the only ones that came with the inline filter that wasn’t there before. Maybe the dash speakers were more full range? I dunno. I read that they’re tweeters, so I’m not sure. I know I added more tweets with the 6x9s in the door. I could remove the dash speakers I suppose….

 

[Doubeleive]

So I replaced the speakers in my front doors and dash…no amp or anything, just JBL club 194t in the dash and 6x9 JBL clubs in the doors. I had turn my treble to -12 due to way to much high frequency. Still needs less. Was I used to crap sound or is this a known issue when putting tweeters in the dash? I really don’t want an amp or anything but damn, the tweets are too much!

What is the impedance (ohm's) of the speakers you removed? usually they are stamped on the backside, if not you can use a meter
compare that to the impedance of the speakers you installed
I bet that is the problem and is why you can't just slap new speakers in a car and expect it to sound better, you have to do your homework.

 

[Doubeleive]

I would stop by a well known car audio shop in your area and ask them if they would print out a list and diagram for your audio systems rpo code
most shops have a subscription service they use so they have accurate information when a customer wants to upgrade.

 

[Chickensandwich]

The speakers are 3 ohm. I didn’t look at the speakers I took out, so that could be an issue

 

[Joseph Garcia]

If there is an inline filter on the speaker, such as a capacitor, then that speaker is set up to be a tweeter.

How does the mid and bass frequencies volumes sound? You say that the tweeters are way too loud, but what about the other frequency ranges? I just want you to be sure that it not an issue where the mid and low frequencies are are performing, volume-wise, lower you would expect.

 

[Chickensandwich]

Everything else is good. The filter only is inline to each dashboard speaker

 

[homesick]

The speakers are 3 ohm. I didn’t look at the speakers I took out, so that could be an issue

Doub's right. Good sound is about well-matched components. Dollars can matter, but compatibility comes first.

joe

 

[Chickensandwich]

I agree. Thats why I bought the same speaker models for both doors and dash. All are JBL Club series, 3 ohm. The rear doors get installed tomorrow, but I dont think they have a lot to do with the excessive tweeter noise upfront. i think I need some kind of equalization, but with treble turned all the way down....Im not 100% sure it can be fixed without maybe removing the dash tweeters. Ill have to wait and see.

 

[homesick]

I agree. Thats why I bought the same speaker models for both doors and dash. All are JBL Club series, 3 ohm. The rear doors get installed tomorrow, but I dont think they have a lot to do with the excessive tweeter noise upfront. i think I need some kind of equalization, but with treble turned all the way down....Im not 100% sure it can be fixed without maybe removing the dash tweeters. Ill have to wait and see.

Don't just buy matching speakers. They don't all have to be the same brand, but ALL components need to like each other.

joe

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Pretty sure the Bose Speakers are generally 2 ohms...which means the amp for them is desinged for 2 ohms as well. If you put 4 ohm speakers in place of the 2 ohm ones, you will not get max power transfer, and the lows and midrange will suffer much more than the high frequencies.

In some previous models, the rear pillar speakers were 12.5 ohms....adding another wrinkle.

So, Unless you know what you are doing, or want to scrap the entire power system of this audio system and put in your own AMP, you may struggle getting good sound from it.

 

[KMeloney]

So I replaced the speakers in my front doors and dash…no amp or anything, just JBL club 194t in the dash and 6x9 JBL clubs in the doors. I had turn my treble to -12 due to way to much high frequency. Still needs less. Was I used to crap sound or is this a known issue when putting tweeters in the dash? I really don’t want an amp or anything but damn, the tweets are too much!

What year/model truck do you have?

 

[SavageDad]

Did we ever make any headway here?

 

[Fless]

Did we ever make any headway here?

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