Ok so i have a huge dilemma......i need opinions from everyone!

[tom3]

Maybe the real problem here might be that the VIN is all over these newer vehicles. At some point, for some reason, you get pulled over and the situation goes overboard and they start really checking. Those cops usually know or can find out where to look. Really have some 'splainin' to do. But in Ohio about anything goes.

 

[ScottyBoy]

The only way you can LEGALLY do this is to pretty much strip the good truck and install ALL the parts onto the bad truck that has the good VIN and title. It's legal to swap parts, but once you swap the VIN plate, that's a felony.
So yes it would be a ton of work, but swapping the drivetrain, body parts, interior parts, etc, that's the only legal way to do it.

 

[Tonyv__]

Let me throw a hypothetical at you.


Let’s say down the road you get into an accident with another vehicle and someone in either vehicle gets severely hurt. That accident will be investigated further than your average accident because now they want to know what caused it and whose fault it was. If they uncover that your vehicle isn’t even the vehicle tilted, registered, and insured then it’s very likely your insurance will step out of the equation leaving you high and dry. Not only will your insurance step out, then you’ll have to deal with the legal repercussions of what you decided to do.



But what am I even saying this for, you don’t plan to get into an accident right? You’re good to go then.

Also you do know the Tahoe and Yukon have totally different front ends? Any officer who has the slightest knowledge of vehicles will know that.



But to wrap up my post, you asked our opinions… it’s a dumb a$$ idea and clearly you don’t wanna hear that. So do whatever you feel like doing but just know you’ve been warned on how stupid of an idea it is.

 

[mountie]

Maybe configure it as a salvage title?

 

[Alex_M]

I'm going to stay out of the legal and philosophical discussion here - but do some research on the "Vermont Loophole". You should be able to get a title for the one without a title since it's older than 15 years.

 

[steiny93]

a couple things

1) getting a title for a no title vehicle isn't the end of the world
2) swapping a vin (illegal and bad) swapping parts (totally ok and acceptable)

My vote: go down the get a title process, as a fall back start swapping parts.

 

[Fless]

I don't see much about the "LLC" and how and why you acquired it. But is there a way to find or identify one or more of the principal "members" of the LLC, and get them to sign the title, or give you a letter on letterhead about the purchase?

 

[S33k3r]

I'm in a similar situation right now. Myself, I'm consulting a lawyer. The previous owner sold me stuff and now has gone no contact. So I have to be particularly careful, as he could show up at any time and make my life difficult. Do not put yourself in a situation where this can happen to you. It is not worth it. It may look good on the front end, but it will eventually bite you in the butt -- especially if you keep it forever. If you like it so much, do it right. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but you will appreciate the fact you did it right.

 

[ScottyBoy]

I'm in a similar situation right now. Myself, I'm consulting a lawyer. The previous owner sold me stuff and now has gone no contact. So I have to be particularly careful, as he could show up at any time and make my life difficult. Do not put yourself in a situation where this can happen to you. It is not worth it. It may look good on the front end, but it will eventually bite you in the butt -- especially if you keep it forever. If you like it so much, do it right. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but you will appreciate the fact you did it right.

I had a similar situation years ago. I bought a Blazer, but when I went to change the title, it was in his Girlfriend's name and she didn't sign the title. DMV wanted it signed, AND a notorized bill of sale. (I had a bill of sale, which was NOT notorized, and SHE didn't even sign it. ) They wouldn't accept my bill of sale, or the title. Tried to contact them, they moved, and either changed numbers or avoided my calls to no end. So the Blazer ended up sitting in my yard for 2 years while I tried to resolve the title situation, but kept hitting roadblocks. While it sat, rats from the yard next door got into it and destroyed the wiring in the engine compartment and under the vehicle. I tried to start fixing it, but it became far too much of a headache, plus I still couldn't get a title for it, so I junked it. The junkyard accepted the unsigned title that I had a long with the bill of sale. They just made me sign paperwork swearing that I did indeed purchase it from the person listed on the title. At least I got most of my money back on it. I ended up losing about $200 on that pile.

 

[07Burb]

I think we lost OP most likely never to come back. Prolly bad mouthing us over on vinswapforum.com

 

[OR VietVet]

He may or may not be able to do "this" and may or may not be able to do "that". It still doesn't dilute the fact that he was asking if it was ok to break the law. The negative responses he got were all about what he was asking. He planned to break the law and wanted members here to say that was "ok". Enough laws get broken every day in the USA. I don't and other members don't, want to encourage another "entitled" brain fart to do the same.

 

[homesick]

I had a similar situation years ago. I bought a Blazer, but when I went to change the title, it was in his Girlfriend's name and she didn't sign the title. DMV wanted it signed, AND a notorized bill of sale. (I had a bill of sale, which was NOT notorized, and SHE didn't even sign it. ) They wouldn't accept my bill of sale, or the title. Tried to contact them, they moved, and either changed numbers or avoided my calls to no end. So the Blazer ended up sitting in my yard for 2 years while I tried to resolve the title situation, but kept hitting roadblocks. While it sat, rats from the yard next door got into it and destroyed the wiring in the engine compartment and under the vehicle. I tried to start fixing it, but it became far too much of a headache, plus I still couldn't get a title for it, so I junked it. The junkyard accepted the unsigned title that I had a long with the bill of sale. They just made me sign paperwork swearing that I did indeed purchase it from the person listed on the title. At least I got most of my money back on it. I ended up losing about $200 on that pile.

You can't even donate 'em without a title either.

joe

 

[homesick]

He may or may not be able to do "this" and may or may not be able to do "that". It still doesn't dilute the fact that he was asking if it was ok to break the law. The negative responses he got were all about what he was asking. He planned to break the law and wanted members here to say that was "ok". Enough laws get broken every day in the USA. I don't and other members don't, want to encourage another "entitled" brain fart to do the same.

It's like the guys who brag about returning tools for refund after they've used them, and then getting hurt because some of us don't applaud their "economizing".

joe

 

[S33k3r]

Were we overly harsh with him? I mean, we want to discourage him from becoming a felon, for sure, but could we have been nicer in our attempts at persuasion?

 

[OR VietVet]

I have no patience for thieves. That is what he was gonna do. He asked for "approval" and tried to "justify" doing an illegal act. There are too many people out there, all over the USA, that get babied and think it is ok to break the law and steal and justify it for numerous reasons. I was waiting for him to say that he got ripped off somewhere in his past life and this is a form of reparations.

 

[homesick]

I have no patience for thieves. That is what he was gonna do. He asked for "approval" and tried to "justify" doing an illegal act. There are too many people out there, all over the USA, that get babied and think it is ok to break the law and steal and justify it for numerous reasons. I was waiting for him to say that he got ripped off somewhere in his past life and this is a form of reparations.

Mama, and/or our lowering cultural standards, probably told the li'l snowflake he "deserves" it.

joe

 

[Scott in AZ]

Swapping VINs. Hmmmmm. What coould POSSIBLY go wrong?

 

[03catburban]

Slight derail but what is yalls take on a chassis swap between 2 vehicles

 

[OR VietVet]

Slight derail but what is yalls take on a chassis swap between 2 vehicles

As long as done legally, just like the OP's swap if done legally, I personally have no problems. Just the fact that a person knows there is an originally matching VIN on the frame and does a swap, should be enough of a prompt to do it legally, start to finish. There is really no such thing as, "I guarantee you I will never sell this vehicle so there is no real concern with having a non matching VIN on the frame". Like has been brought up as well, what about you are keeping it and a wreck happens and the mismatch is found by the effected insurance company and then all of a sudden the coverage is gone for a person that could have been hurt physically.

 

[mountie]

In N California, back in 1972, a neighbor bought a real Lola T 70 Mk 3 B from Europe. It was a limited street build version. He couldn't register it, due to the "non-street vehicle" in the USA. So he purchased a street legal version - kit car, and used it's vin number for the real Lola. ( The fastest speed I have ever been on a public road!! ) No one would know that it was the real thing... ( How many DMV people have inspected a 1969 Lola?? )