Refinish headliner?

[Matthew Jeschke]

If you go to an online GM parts dealer and look them up, the coat hangers for this are discontinued, pn 15760164. Looks like they’re a wrecking yard part. The ones for the newer models are completely different.

I wounder why GM and other makers always change these designs. Is kind of silly. I maybe able to get by without them for a while, until I can find them at the parts yard.

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[Matthew Jeschke]

New day new problem lol

Okay so I've figured out that my truck headliner is M2140 Medium Dark Pewter as per "Surcolor Automotive Headlining" samples card.

However, this only comes in 60" width with the 1/4 foam backing. The headliner is exactly 60" wide. That doesn't figure in any of the contours

 

[Tonyrodz]

New day new problem lol

Okay so I've figured out that my truck headliner is M2140 Medium Dark Pewter as per "Surcolor Automotive Headlining" samples card.

However, this only comes in 60" width with the 1/4 foam backing. The headliner is exactly 60" wide. That doesn't figure in any of the contours

It does stretch some. Have you asked about a custom length for your application? Can't hurt.

 

[Matthew Jeschke]

The shop was closed today. I'm going to call them Monday and see if they can do a custom width. To at least give me 3 inches or so overhang. I see everybody online folds the overhang over and glues it to back of headliner.

I also notice the foam structure of headliner in some areas is damaged. Mostly at corners where pillars are. Somebody manhandled this headliner before. It's not terrible but would like to repair with some foam glue of some kind? Any ideas?

 

[Matthew Jeschke]

I found a shop that will do headliner and runroof shade for $150. I think I'll just take it there. Maybe they can figure out the corners by the pillars too.

 

[Tonyrodz]

I found a shop that will do headliner and runroof shade for $150. I think I'll just take it there. Maybe they can figure out the corners by the pillars too.

Is that you bringing them the headliner board?

 

[Matthew Jeschke]

yeah removed. he said i already did the hard work lol

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[Matthew Jeschke]

Given the bug I resorted to more of my backyard mechanic work lol I just ordered headliner material and the glue. It's just so hard to get anything done with this stupid virus spoof / scare / mayhem.

I had to compramise as the Surcolor Brand headliner material which matches perfectly didn't come in anything wider than 60" so I went for extra wide 67" 2005XXW Medium Gray at AlBrightsSupply.com it's the closest I could find and is 67" wide. I ordered 4 yards (headliner is 3 yards long but I need extra to do sunroof door and if possible the visors.

I also ordered 2, 18oz cans of the 3M headliner glue - 38808 from Amazon. They told me it would take 1.5 cans at AlBrights, but they don't sell the 3M stuff... And I don't want to skimp on glue I know 3M makes top notch stuff.

I disassembled one of the visors already. I have extras to play with from the junkyard. Including two perfectly functioning ones. Hopefully I can figure that out too. If not I'll drop those off at the shop after this bug scare blows over.

 

[Tonyrodz]

Given the bug I resorted to more of my backyard mechanic work lol I just ordered headliner material and the glue. It's just so hard to get anything done with this stupid virus spoof / scare / mayhem.

I had to compramise as the Surcolor Brand headliner material which matches perfectly didn't come in anything wider than 60" so I went for extra wide 67" 2005XXW Medium Gray at AlBrightsSupply.com it's the closest I could find and is 67" wide. I ordered 4 yards (headliner is 3 yards long but I need extra to do sunroof door and if possible the visors.

I also ordered 2, 18oz cans of the 3M headliner glue - 38808 from Amazon. They told me it would take 1.5 cans at AlBrights, but they don't sell the 3M stuff... And I don't want to skimp on glue I know 3M makes top notch stuff.

I disassembled one of the visors already. I have extras to play with from the junkyard. Including two perfectly functioning ones. Hopefully I can figure that out too. If not I'll drop those off at the shop after this bug scare blows over.

Make sure you get ALL of the old foam off the board, spray both the board and the back of the material, let it tack up--make sure it's right where you want it to be, then lay it down. Make sure you do it in manageable sections. You don't want to mess it up. Once it's down, it's down. You won't be able to rearrange it if it's crooked or has wrinkles/bubbles in it. Make sure you have a nice flat surface to work on. Good luck.

 

[Matthew Jeschke]

Make sure you get ALL of the old foam off the board, spray both the board and the back of the material, let it tack up--make sure it's right where you want it to be, then lay it down. Make sure you do it in manageable sections. You don't want to mess it up. Once it's down, it's down. You won't be able to rearrange it if it's crooked or has wrinkles/bubbles in it. Make sure you have a nice flat surface to work on. Good luck.

what did you use to press it on? Just your hand or did you have a shower squeegy ot something to that effect?

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[Tonyrodz]

what did you use to press it on? Just your hand or did you have a shower squeegy ot something to that effect?

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I used a plastic bondo spreader. Works great. Know what that is?
Harbor Freight sells them.

 

[CJ Rodarme]

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[HansJr]

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[89Suburban]

The shop was closed today. I'm going to call them Monday and see if they can do a custom width. To at least give me 3 inches or so overhang. I see everybody online folds the overhang over and glues it to back of headliner.

I also notice the foam structure of headliner in some areas is damaged. Mostly at corners where pillars are. Somebody manhandled this headliner before. It's not terrible but would like to repair with some foam glue of some kind? Any ideas?

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You can use cardboard to fix that but curved areas will be tough to form it without showng lines. Here is one I did on my old Suburban when I removed the rear AC off the roof. Used the carboard pieces like a patch and used a cardboard backing so it filled the hole flush and glued it all together with the spray adhesive them mounted the fabric.

 

[Matthew Jeschke]

I got ir fixed. U made it more complex than it needed to be haha

Other than, laying on the headliner material. definaly paying to have that done next time.

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[Tonyrodz]

I got ir fixed. U made it more complex than it needed to be haha

Other than, laying on the headliner material. definaly paying to have that done next time.

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I just try to explain things in detail with all the pitfalls that COULD happen. I'd hate to make it seem so easy that you could do it in an hr, and be the total opposite for someone trying to do it.

 

[Sam Harris]

I got ir fixed. U made it more complex than it needed to be haha

Other than, laying on the headliner material. definaly paying to have that done next time.

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Where’s the photographic evidence?!?

 

[Matthew Jeschke]

I just try to explain things in detail with all the pitfalls that COULD happen. I'd hate to make it seem so easy that you could do it in an hr, and be the total opposite for someone trying to do it.

No worries, I appreciate the tips! I just am a glutton for punishment. I seldom hire help haha Unless it's at work. Then I want to outsource my entire job :|

 

[Matthew Jeschke]

Video of my frankinstein headliner haha

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1te5D97-vSZeBrFaV3NuWwbPFjD6vTL1d/view?usp=sharing

 

[ivin74]

Video of my frankinstein headliner haha

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1te5D97-vSZeBrFaV3NuWwbPFjD6vTL1d/view?usp=sharing

Great video, I would not have done any better than you, lol