What else to do for body roll?

[svtthis]

I've got a 05 Escalade that has the following done:

20" wheels
Belltech sway bars front and rear
Spohn panhard bar
Spohn upper and lower control arms
4" drop springs
Djm 3" drop control arms
Bilstein shocks front and rear
Bump steer kit

What else can be done for handling? I get some body roll with this set up and would like to minimize it as much as possible.

The only thing I can think of is drop spindles?

 

[Tonyrodz]

I've got a 05 Escalade that has the following done:

20" wheels
Belltech sway bars front and rear
Spohn panhard bar
Spohn upper and lower control arms
4" drop springs
Djm 3" drop control arms
Bilstein shocks front and rear
Bump steer kit

What else can be done for handling? I get some body roll with this set up and would like to minimize it as much as possible.

The only thing I can think of is drop spindles?

How big is your sidewall on your 20" tire? The shorter, the less flex.

 

[gat0r]

which bilstein shocks?

what about bushings & end links?

 

[drakon543]

how hard are you kicking an Escalade around? it is possible to get custom sway bars made. shocks are only a damper and wont help that much but you could go with a sportier shock or an adjustable fox or something. also unwanted sidewall flex in your tires can also come from just using tires unsuited to what your trying to do. if your trying to drift a land yacht on tires that are comfortable it won't feel right. your shifting aprox 5500 lbs around also so keep that in mind.

 

[OR VietVet]

Yea, the tire sidewall and the shock rate will play a big part in this.

 

[Dantheman1540]

A good adjustable coilover swap in the front will not only drop considerable weight by ditching the torsion bars but also allow you to dial in compression and rebound to your liking.

 

[svtthis]

How big is your sidewall on your 20" tire? The shorter, the less flex.

It's a 55.

 

[svtthis]

which bilstein shocks?

what about bushings & end links?

Part #
24065009 front

24-143806 rear

Bushings and endlinks are all done. Endlinks came with the sway bars and I got the djm shortened endlinks in the rear

 

[svtthis]

how hard are you kicking an Escalade around? it is possible to get custom sway bars made. shocks are only a damper and wont help that much but you could go with a sportier shock or an adjustable fox or something. also unwanted sidewall flex in your tires can also come from just using tires unsuited to what your trying to do. if your trying to drift a land yacht on tires that are comfortable it won't feel right. your shifting aprox 5500 lbs around also so keep that in mind.

Good point and I am kicking around pretty hard. I like the idea of the coilover swap. I'll probably end up doing that.

 

[svtthis]

A good adjustable coilover swap in the front will not only drop considerable weight by ditching the torsion bars but also allow you to dial in compression and rebound to your liking.

Thanks for the tip. I like this not only for the suspension but the weight savings as well since I've taken a lot of weight out of it already.

 

[Dantheman1540]

I'm not sure what options are out there for coilover swaps. However I did mine years ago on my silverado and Atomic Fabrication and Performance was the only option. His customer service is fantastic! He will make sure you get setup with just the right spring and shock combo plus his swap brackets are super tough! I have beat the snot out of them off road and haven't had a single issue. My Tahoe will eventually get his swap and coilovers as well.

 

[Dantheman1540]

Also a 55 sidewall is pretty tall and will cause a decent bit of body roll. However if you go down to a smaller sidewall the ride quality will suffer.

 

[gat0r]

you could also check w/ Norcal SS & see what suggestions outside of whats been mentioned here, that he has

 

[GreyStone]

Thanks for the tip. I like this not only for the suspension but the weight savings as well since I've taken a lot of weight out of it already.

Are you running with a spare tire?

 

[svtthis]

Yeah I just reached out to atomic fabrication and no dice on the coilovers. The coilovers are designed for the stock control arms. So back to the drawing board.

 

[svtthis]

Are you running with a spare tire?

No spare tire. It was taken out along with the tow bar, the holder for the tire, awd, air ride components etc

 

[Dantheman1540]

Yeah I just reached out to atomic fabrication and no dice on the coilovers. The coilovers are designed for the stock control arms. So back to the drawing board.

What control arms do you have in the front?

 

[iamdub]

The only thing that would reduce body roll and not affect the ride so much is sway bars, and you have them already. There may be some stiffer ones, though. I don't know who makes the stiffest sway bars for these things. Anything else would alter the ride. Smaller sidewall tires would make a big improvement in roll, but would bring a deterioration in ride quality. They would also require larger wheels unless you're okay with the skateboard look. Firmer springs and/or shocks would help. I have some like-new Belltech 2412FF shocks that'll surely help! You'll just need some shock extenders if you don't have 'em already.

 

[GreyStone]

does anyone make a front or rear strut brace for these trucks?

 

[iamdub]

does anyone make a front or rear strut brace for these trucks?

No struts in the rear to brace. The strut mounts in the front are on the frame, so no bracing is really needed. Even on prerunner Silverados/Sierras, the strut mount is used to bolt up a coilover mount. For the more serious prerunners, the factory mount is cut off entirely and replaced with custom mounts. Still no tower bracing. Although, those hardcore trucks have custom tube work to tie the front frame rails together.