[SOLVED] Brakes squishy after brake upgrade

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I don’t even know how you bleed brakes without a pressure bleeder!
 

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To everyone who recommended the pressure bleeder, thank you! It's a game changer for brake bleeds. I've never had such stubborn air in the system before, and this just took care of it like it was nothing. I'm happy to report that nothing is wrong, there was just air still in the system after all the bleeding I did. One round with the pressure bleeder and all is good. I also used the Orion Motor Tech one, not the Motive.
Yep I swear by the Motive bleeder. its made brake work so easy flor me.
 

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Go get a OBD topdon about 53$ on Amazon. Go into the ABS module and open the inlet and then the outlet valves while holding down the brakes with engine off. That pedal will move down and you will chase the air in those chambers. Pedal will become noticeably firmer. Then re bleed the brakes. I’ve done this on 3 vehicles so far and all saw improvement in brake feel
 

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Not to divert the thread, but regarding the Motive bleeder. I tried one, and it leaked. Couldn't get passed 5 lbs of air. I was about to start "fixing" it with clamps, etc., but decided to exchange it. The second one, same leaking issues. And again, exchanged... same issue with the third one. Returned it. I know Motive is (was?) a good tool and have used them in the past. I then checked reviews (I didn't at first because I've used Motive in the past and had no issues) and apparently there are many complaints now about leaking. I've since considered the OMT (Orion Motor Tech) bleeder.

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I'm. also. curious what part of the motive leaked. mine held 25-30 psi pressure just fine with zero leaks.
 

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Not to divert the thread, but regarding the Motive bleeder. I tried one, and it leaked. Couldn't get passed 5 lbs of air. I was about to start "fixing" it with clamps, etc., but decided to exchange it. The second one, same leaking issues. And again, exchanged... same issue with the third one. Returned it. I know Motive is (was?) a good tool and have used them in the past. I then checked reviews (I didn't at first because I've used Motive in the past and had no issues) and apparently there are many complaints now about leaking. I've since considered the OMT (Orion Motor Tech) bleeder.

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Wonder if they changed the design or something. 3 bad ones in a row seems unlikely though.
 

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Wonder if they changed the design or something. 3 bad ones in a row seems unlikely though.

if it was leaking at the master cyl connection. mine came with 2 different thickness rubber seals that go inside the fitting, and since mine required a crazy high pressure, I paid a little extra to add the gm metal cap. I has to use pliers to twist it on the first time, but after that by hand would work.

it sealed very well with the thick one, but not with the thin rubber seal. so that's why I wonder. they do have a bunch of different kits with different part numbers for the different assortments.

their website seems to show options better than trying to use Amazon
 

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