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So I put that Valvoline Restore 5w-30 in my truck 3 months ago. For the past few days I've been getting the bells and DIC warning of low oil pressure. The dash gauge goes back and forth from 0 - 40 psi many times during a 5 mile trip. I checked the oil level multiple times and it is full on dipstick. So I am thinking it must be the pressure sensor. Engine runs fine otherwise so looks like a false positive. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Is the Valvoline restore know to clog up stuff? Maybe just a coincidence. Thanks!
 
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Yeah was leaning towards filter bypass screwy or bypass in pan I believe that is a real feature im not familiar with. Will change oil tomorrow and recheck. I have an extra oil pressure sensor bought years ago. I might have had same issue or just wanted a new one. Cant remember
 

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If you have oil pressure problems with your engine, it could actually be due to several things. Leaving aside exotic faults like a cracked engine block or cylinder heads.

Of course, it could also be a defective oil pressure sensor. However, I would always focus on the oil pressure problems first, because they will destroy your engine. The oil pressure sensor is only a display problem.

The most common cause is the sealing ring on the oil pipe at the oil pump. This becomes soft and flat over time, and then the oil pump draws in air. This varies depending on the operating situation, whether the oil is cold and thick or hot and thin.

It could be as well the oil pressure relief valve, which is located on the oil filter housing and whose purpose is to release oil pressure when the oil filter is clogged.

It could, of course, be a worn-out engine and/or a worn-out oil pump.

I also had oil pressure problems and rattling hydraulic tappets at the beginning. I replaced the sealing ring on my oil pipe, which significantly improved the situation. Then, before changing the oil, I poured a liter of diesel into the engine and drove for 20 to 30 km. This dissolved all the carbon deposits, and since then, I've had good oil pressure and no more rattling hydraulic tappets.

If I were you, I would definitely replace the O-ring and the valve; it can be done in one go and isn't that much work.

And before changing the oil, I would pour in a liter of diesel and drive a short distance.

At the same time, you can of course check your oil pressure sensor.
 

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Attach a live data scanner and see what voltages you get to verify if there is a mechanical or sensor problem. I had a similar problem on my 2004 Silverado 6.0 and the voltages were great and the stepper motor on the cluster was bad. I was all ready to throw a sensor on it and instead I did a new cluster.

Does it only read zero when driving and if so are you on a hill or level?
 
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Attach a live data scanner and see what voltages you get to verify if there is a mechanical or sensor problem. I had a similar problem on my 2004 Silverado 6.0 and the voltages were great and the stepper motor on the cluster was bad. I was all ready to throw a sensor on it and instead I did a new cluster.

Does it only read zero when driving and if so are you on a hill or level?
This is a great idea. Will try it. I have a VX diag VCX Nano. The cluster was totally redone with bulbs and steppers 8 years ago but that's how long the bulbs originally lasted it seemed.

The bumps and such don't affect the pressure gauge reading.

If i drop a gear or rev it a bit in neutral the pressure sometimes will come up to 40-60 psi or be the same at 0 or up and down from 0 - 40. When it shows pressure it looks normal. Cold start in morning oil pressure is around 60.
 
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If you have oil pressure problems with your engine, it could actually be due to several things. Leaving aside exotic faults like a cracked engine block or cylinder heads.

Of course, it could also be a defective oil pressure sensor. However, I would always focus on the oil pressure problems first, because they will destroy your engine. The oil pressure sensor is only a display problem.

The most common cause is the sealing ring on the oil pipe at the oil pump. This becomes soft and flat over time, and then the oil pump draws in air. This varies depending on the operating situation, whether the oil is cold and thick or hot and thin.

It could be as well the oil pressure relief valve, which is located on the oil filter housing and whose purpose is to release oil pressure when the oil filter is clogged.

It could, of course, be a worn-out engine and/or a worn-out oil pump.

I also had oil pressure problems and rattling hydraulic tappets at the beginning. I replaced the sealing ring on my oil pipe, which significantly improved the situation. Then, before changing the oil, I poured a liter of diesel into the engine and drove for 20 to 30 km. This dissolved all the carbon deposits, and since then, I've had good oil pressure and no more rattling hydraulic tappets.

If I were you, I would definitely replace the O-ring and the valve; it can be done in one go and isn't that much work.

And before changing the oil, I would pour in a liter of diesel and drive a short distance.

At the same time, you can of course check your oil pressure sensor.
Thanks for all that. Going to change oil and filter today. O-ring was replaced gonna say 7 years ago. The original wasn't flat but tube was a tad loose but only after removing two other bolts fastened to windage tray. I forgot to use loctite on reassembly. Whoever designed the tube with only one bolt must have been high or something. I regularly empty a quart of oil and add a quart of diesel or kerosene as a flush prior to draining ever year or two.
 
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Thanks for all that. Going to change oil and filter today. O-ring was replaced gonna say 7 years ago. The original wasn't flat but tube was a tad loose but only after removing two other bolts fastened to windage tray. I forgot to use loctite on reassembly. Whoever designed the tube with only one bolt must have been high or something. I regularly empty a quart of oil and add a quart of diesel or kerosene as a flush prior to draining ever year or two.
That's good so you did your homework..

You don't need to drop a quart of oil, before adding some diesel. Even even if you have 5 quarts too much oil in the engine, it will not do anything.
 
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Are we able to upload or attach videos?

Anyway here is a screenshot. Still not working. Will check stepper motors next.
 

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Are we able to upload or attach videos?

Anyway here is a screenshot. Still not working. Will check stepper motors next.

TYF can't host videos, so upload it to YouTube or your choice of hosts, and post a link here.

I'm pretty sure a bi-directional scanner can do a gauge sweep test, if you have access to one.
 
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TYF can't host videos, so upload it to YouTube or your choice of hosts, and post a link here.

I'm pretty sure a bi-directional scanner can do a gauge sweep test, if you have access to one.
Would be nice if the steppers swept at engine start like Corvette
 

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