Escalade Auto/Express Up Windows

[CMoore711]

I know this is an old thread but found it searching for alternative window regulator part numbers and brands for my '13 Escalade ESV and bumping for clarification.

I need to replace the window regulators on both the front driver and passenger side doors of my '13 Escalade ESV. I do have one touch all the way up and down on both the front doors.

GM OEM window regulators are discontinued: GM 20971729 and 20971730.

Doing some digging there are some window regulators that cross over for the Escalade, Suburban, Yukon and even Sierra, Silverado, and Avalanche.

If I were to purchase a GM OEM alternate window regulator from another GM SUV platform or even a Dorman equivalent would I lose the power window one touch up and down on my '13 Escalade ESV?

 

[91RS]

The regulator itself is the same but the motors are different and the connector on the motor is different as well as the door module so you can’t just delete the express up without changing the whole door harness and door module as well. There are plenty of used ones on eBay. That’s where I got mine from. All 09-14 Escalades have the express up.

 

[CMoore711]

Thanks for the response @91RS ; Was really hoping to get my hands on a new GM OEM part, but used may be the only option. Rockauto had a Dorman 751-700 on closeout for $100 yesterday, but somebody scooped it up late last night or this morning.

I did notice that there are different connections to the motors on the various window regulators; Some are a 2-pin connector and some are a wider 6 pin connector.

 

[91RS]

The Dorman is a reman if I remember correctly. What’s wrong with yours? If it’s just the cables snapped in the regulator, you can buy a new regulator for a Tahoe or Yukon and just swap your motor and then everything is new minus the motor.

 

[CMoore711]

My window rolls up and down fine, but the glass is loose in the track. When the window is down it rattles in the track when opening closing the door, it's made contact in a few small spots and messed up my window tint.

I haven't yet actually removed the interior door panel to inspect it.

 

[CMoore711]

you can buy a new regulator for a Tahoe or Yukon and just swap your motor and then everything is new minus the motor.

Can I purchase manual window regulators then swap my motor onto these?
Or do I need to purchase power window regulators that likely have the wrong motor plug/connection and swap my motor onto the power window regulators?

 

[91RS]

I’m not sure how the manual mechanism is made, so I am not sure.

 

[Doubeleive]

Can I purchase manual window regulators then swap my motor onto these?
Or do I need to purchase power window regulators that likely have the wrong motor plug/connection and swap my motor onto the power window regulators?

you CAN buy just a regulator only and swap your motor onto it, they are probably $30-35 at any auto parts store
I just looked on RA which is usually slightly cheaper than a retailer and looks like prices have gone up a little so more like $40-50

I don't think I have seen a manual window on a gm suv in over 24 years, maybe on some obs's but I guess they exist

 

[91RS]

I was assuming he was asking because he wants an OEM regulator and not aftermarket. I would get a used OEM regulator before I’d buy a aftermarket one. You could get manual windows in a strippie GMT-900 Silverado or Sierra.

 

[Doubeleive]

I was assuming he was asking because he wants an OEM regulator and not aftermarket. I would get a used OEM regulator before I’d buy a aftermarket one. You could get manual windows in a strippie GMT-900 Silverado or Sierra.

aftermarket regulators are usually fine and may even come with a lifetime warranty. (the cardone do)
it's the aftermarket motors that are pure crap, I would grab a 20 year oem motor before grabbing the crap they pop out now, nothing but plastic with maybe a metal bracket to keep it from disentigrating on the first use.

 

[CMoore711]

I would really prefer to purchase GM OEM window regulators if I can get my hands on them, but they are diamonds in the rough it seems for the GMT900 platform unless you're willing to buy used. Which is an option I'm open to, but would prefer new.

These are the GM OEM part numbers that are very hard to find and/or out of stock everwhere:
Front Drivers Side GM 20971729
Front Passenger Side GM 20971730

I've got new GM OEM regulators with motors for the 2 rear doors; I need new regulators for the 2 front doors.

So far my choices of new parts without motor is this bundle from TRQ for around $100:

Chevrolet GMC Cadillac Front Driver & Passenger Side Power 2 Piece Window Regulator Set TRQ WRA50723

Order your Power 2 Piece Window Regulator Set - today at 1AAuto.com. Up To 50% Off Prices EveryDay! Get Fast & Free Shipping On Premium Quality Parts. Shop Now & Save!

www.1aauto.com

OR

I'm ok with purchased GM OEM new without motors and swapping on my current motor onto them; I'm just not sure exactly the correct part numbers. I think the part numbers are:

Front Drivers Side GM 20914715
Front Passenger Side GM 20914716

GM OEM New window regulators WITHOUT MOTORS are about $118/ea without motors.
But some sites state they're power window regulators without motors and some sites state that they're simply manual window regulators? Not sure if OEM manual window regulators are designed to accept a electric power window motor?

Maybe I'm over thinking it?

@915_Tahoe
@91RS

Any help on confirmation of the part numbers would be appreciated.

EDIT: the TRQ regulators linked above are WITHOUT motors.

 

[Doubeleive]

the thing here is as far as the regulator goes is that they are all going to be plastic and metal, there is no magical oem design.
however buying the cheapest one out there is likely going to be cheaply made, you could probably compare brand a to brand b at the parts store if they happen to carry both and have them in stock.
aftermarket motors on the otherhand are different, in that case you see aftermarket motors using "plastic" where oem uses metal inside the motor, the plastic gears strip leaving you wondering wtf. you can feel the difference just holding them in your hand oem will have some weight to it and aftermarket will be feather light with bare minimum metal.

changing the regulator is like a 30 minute job start to finish (or less), so it's not like if it fails 6 years down the road it's going to be a big hassle to do again.

 

[91RS]

I can’t quite tell if those regulators will work based on the pictures I’m finding or not. Rock Auto shows they fit all GMT-900 so maybe the part where the crank handle would attach just unscrews and the motor can be screwed in place. Maybe try buying one from Amazon so returns are easy?

 

[Doubeleive]

I can’t quite tell if those regulators will work based on the pictures I’m finding or not. Rock Auto shows they fit all GMT-900 so maybe the part where the crank handle would attach just unscrews and the motor can be screwed in place. Maybe try buying one from Amazon so returns are easy?

i somehow doubt it but you could always pull up photos of both and compare them side by side.

 

[91RS]

I Googled those part numbers and found some pictures, but I can’t quite tell how the manual mechanism is attached to it. I do know for sure the express up motor will work in place of the standard motor because one of my used regulators was damaged and I reused my original one when I did this conversion.

 

[CMoore711]

I can’t quite tell if those regulators will work based on the pictures I’m finding or not. Rock Auto shows they fit all GMT-900 so maybe the part where the crank handle would attach just unscrews and the motor can be screwed in place. Maybe try buying one from Amazon so returns are easy?

This is what I need to find out.

I found a couple listings on ebay for the GM OEM regulator without motor that have a few better pictures. But it's still hard to tell if that manual piece is removable or not.

Genuine GM Chevy Silverado 2500 HD 2007-2014 Window Regulator Driver Side Front | eBay

Genuine GM window regulator.

www.ebay.com

2007-2014 GM Window Regulator without Motor Front Driver Side 20914715 | eBay

GM Genuine Parts Window Regulator without Motor Front Driver Side 20914715. Condition is New. Shipped with USPS Media Mail.

www.ebay.com

 

[CMoore711]

Just did a customer service "chat" with someone at www.partsgeek.com And according to them you can remove the manual window mechanism and reuse your existing power window motor on GM 20914715 & GM 20914716.

May try to check with another parts site and inquire on the same question to get a second confirmation.