here is a used glass from a escalade and a new glass for a yukon, I wonder what the difference is
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I plugged the harness in and everything works but the auto up because I can’t set the window positions because there’s no glass and I don’t want to risk breaking the regulator. I’m going to go ahead with the install.
The Escalade glass is indeed different. It’s made by Saint Gobain Sekurit. It doesn’t say it is acoustic and it isn’t double pane but it sure does seem like the Escalade is quieter inside than the Yukon. The shape of the glass is different because the doors are different.
The Escalade glass is indeed different. It’s made by Saint Gobain Sekurit. It doesn’t say it is acoustic and it isn’t double pane but it sure does seem like the Escalade is quieter inside than the Yukon. The shape of the glass is different because the doors are different.
how much did you have to pay for the parts?
Stop Wes.... you don’t need this.....
lol, your right but it would be convenient, I would have bought a esky but I just don't like the interior
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As far as I know, the Escalade and Denali has tempered front windows where the Tahoe's and Yukon's do not. I believe it's part of RPO BS1. I think I'm right because my 06 Sierra Denali has RPO BS1 and the front windows say solid tempered, and my 09 Tahoe LTZ does not have that BS1 code and the front windows don't have the logo on them.
Both sides are in and working. Only issues: the terminal lock for the side airbag sensor had different tabs on it but the rest of the connector was the same so I just swapped that from the old harness Two of the Christmas trees didn’t line up with the holes in this door so I just moved them. The other issue is there are two wires missing from the lock actuator connector on the left side and one on the right side. The connector end view said something about an open signal and key signal so they’ve got something to do with the content theft so I may have lost some functionality there. The ajar switch is separate and the interior lights come on so I’ll have to research it. The wires go from the latch to the door switch so I could add them back easily but I don’t know if the newer modules will even do anything with it. I suspect none of these things will be an issue on a later truck. I’ll probably wind up doing this to our 12 eventually, too.
I also did find out that doubeleive was semi-correct about the regulators being the same. The regulator itself is the same but the motors are different. GM doesn’t sell them separate. My new-to-me right regulator was broken so I ended up swapping the motor onto my original regulator.
I bought everything on eBay. I was going to buy brand new GM regulators but used ones are about $100 each cheaper so I just found some from trucks with less than 100k miles.
I also did find out that doubeleive was semi-correct about the regulators being the same. The regulator itself is the same but the motors are different. GM doesn’t sell them separate. My new-to-me right regulator was broken so I ended up swapping the motor onto my original regulator.
I bought everything on eBay. I was going to buy brand new GM regulators but used ones are about $100 each cheaper so I just found some from trucks with less than 100k miles.
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swathdiver
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I think they beefed up the windows in 2010 or 2011 to combat the thieves. Same with the locking column.
I did some research about these missing circuits and I didn't find much. The open circuits do appear to be redundant ajar switches and the key switch I couldn't find at all but I'm assuming it has something to do with unlocking the door with the key. The only schematic I could find the open switches in was the one for the ajar switches but that didn't help me figure out what exactly they control. The interior lights still work and the RAP still works so unless I notice something not working I'll probably not worry about it. This is definitely only an 07-08 thing so if you have an 09+ they're already not there. I don't think the alarm goes off when you open the door with the key anyway like it does on our 12.
I can post the part numbers tomorrow but the door harnesses are discontinued and there are only a few new ones left in the country. New door switches have to be programmed and would need to be programmed to the VIN of a 09-14 Escalade. The best bet would be to find a junk yard that is parting out the doors and buy the harnesses, switches, and regulators from them. Then this would be plug and play. This probably would have taken me 30 minutes a door if it weren't for my sound deadening and aftermarket speakers.
I can post the part numbers tomorrow but the door harnesses are discontinued and there are only a few new ones left in the country. New door switches have to be programmed and would need to be programmed to the VIN of a 09-14 Escalade. The best bet would be to find a junk yard that is parting out the doors and buy the harnesses, switches, and regulators from them. Then this would be plug and play. This probably would have taken me 30 minutes a door if it weren't for my sound deadening and aftermarket speakers.
I finally did this on my 12 Yukon and I was correct that everything would be plug and play there without the connector and christmas tree location differences I had on my 08. BUT I've lost the ability to turn on my ventilated/heated seats because the Escalade has those switches in the HVAC control rather than on the door... Before I realized this, I took the door modules apart and swapped the circuit board for the switches so that the backlighting would be green instead of white and both boards had the contact point for express up but the switch housing doesn't have the dual detent on the Yukon switch. I programmed the Escalade modules with the Yukon program and the windows didn't work but the seat switches did, so it is all in the programming. I'm not sure if I could connect the Yukon module to the low speed network redundantly to plug the seat switch into or if that would cause communication problems with two of the "same" module on the network. I'm not even sure there is room in the door to fit it. I contacted White Auto and Media and they said they can probably make a custom hybrid program and make it work but they will not be able to do it any time soon because they're so busy. So I guess I'm taking them back out. Might hang onto the parts and see if WAMS can help me when they're less busy but I doubt that'll ever happen.
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I would love to add express up to my '09 LTZ. Do you have a list of part numbers for what I'd need? I never sit in the back. Do I even have one touch down there?
Thanks. I noticed you had a bit of a rough start on this thread. Funny I might have posted exactly the same way.
Thanks. I noticed you had a bit of a rough start on this thread. Funny I might have posted exactly the same way.
The switches are: 20877337 and 20835556. I bought new ones on eBay but they have to be programmed if they're new. I bought used regulators and front door harnesses off eBay from salvage yards. The harnesses are discontinued. I would have bought new regulators had I not been planning on doing both trucks all along. As I said in my last post, you will lose the heated and ventilated seat functionality with the Escalade switches because those switches are not on the doors in the Escalade. I'm hopeful that White Auto and Media can make a custom program to make it work in the Yukon and I'm willing to spend a little more money to get this all working but they're so busy.
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Thanks. One of the things I bought my Tahoe for is the air conditioned seats. Hm.
gooffeyguy
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I wouldn't give up heated/cooled seats for express up windows. I can hold a button for 5 seconds.
Too bad there's not another easy solution
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Too bad there's not another easy solution
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I’m not giving up my ventilated seats either. I’m really hoping that a custom program will be the solution and that it won’t cost too much. I’m sure I’ll lose my ass if I try and resell these parts so I think I’m going to hang onto them and see if they can help when they’re less busy or maybe there’s another company I don’t know about that offers similar services. The good thing for me is that this worked out just fine in my Escalade and I only drive the Yukon on the weekends.
petethepug
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2012, 13 & 14 Chevy trucks have express down windows. I believe 2014 has up and down. If you can find a match to your truck to a later model 1500, 2500 or 3500 truck they components are already programed if the part is used and if you're lucky it'll be a complete drop into your truck.
adventurenali92
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Wouldn’t the 2014 pickup truck be a K2 platform? In which case the switches AND programming would be entirely different? I thought that the K2 started with the pickups in 2014 and the SUVs started the K2 platform in 2015?
petethepug
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I'll guess he has full power mirrors and dug through some old threads and saw he was working on a 2012. Again guessing he's working with part # 20835553.
This links shows huge cross compatibility up to 2014 (1500, 2500, 3500). If this is what he is using in his truck already, hypothetically, if he pulled a switch pack from a (used) 2014 3/4 or 1 ton that is known to have express up / down windows, it'd be plug and play because the switch pack is already programed for the feature.
I just looked through some of the other truck forums and saw that some truck owners had express up and/or down functions in their 2013-2016 Silverado. I figured that GM liked to reuse the same parts and got lucky is this is the switch pack he's already using.
2007-2019 GM Window Switch (MAY REQUIRE DEALER PROGRAMMING AT INSTALLATION) 20835553 | GMPartsDirect.com
This links shows huge cross compatibility up to 2014 (1500, 2500, 3500). If this is what he is using in his truck already, hypothetically, if he pulled a switch pack from a (used) 2014 3/4 or 1 ton that is known to have express up / down windows, it'd be plug and play because the switch pack is already programed for the feature.
I just looked through some of the other truck forums and saw that some truck owners had express up and/or down functions in their 2013-2016 Silverado. I figured that GM liked to reuse the same parts and got lucky is this is the switch pack he's already using.
2007-2019 GM Window Switch (MAY REQUIRE DEALER PROGRAMMING AT INSTALLATION) 20835553 | GMPartsDirect.com
I’ve never seen a 12 or 13 that had auto up except an Escalade. The window regulator part number only shows to fit Escalade as well. The 14 is indeed the K2 body style and everything is different, plus the pickups only got the auto up on the driver side.
petethepug
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Owners of 14-19 Silverado and Sierra acknowledge they have express down on all 4 windows and up on the driver’s.
The link I posted in the last post shows that part is x compatible with 07 to 19 1500 & 2500 Yukon.
Again, I’m not sure what switch pack is in your truck. I’m assuming it’s a ‘12 Tahoe or Yukon.
If I still had 08 Denali XL I’d purchase a used 14-19 switch pack from a Silverado and Sierra in a heartbeat knowing it was programmed from the factory for express down on all 4 windows and up on the driver’s. If it worked as a drop in solution, great. If not, return it back to the seller with a candy bar in the package.
https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/214206-window-auto-up-feature/
“I noticed the driver window switch (2018 Sierra SLT) has all auto down and driver auto up with the two click feature on the window button. I notice only the driver has that double click on the way up.”
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The link I posted in the last post shows that part is x compatible with 07 to 19 1500 & 2500 Yukon.
Again, I’m not sure what switch pack is in your truck. I’m assuming it’s a ‘12 Tahoe or Yukon.
If I still had 08 Denali XL I’d purchase a used 14-19 switch pack from a Silverado and Sierra in a heartbeat knowing it was programmed from the factory for express down on all 4 windows and up on the driver’s. If it worked as a drop in solution, great. If not, return it back to the seller with a candy bar in the package.
https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/214206-window-auto-up-feature/
“I noticed the driver window switch (2018 Sierra SLT) has all auto down and driver auto up with the two click feature on the window button. I notice only the driver has that double click on the way up.”
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