Got my 10k lows and fogs. Are they easy to install? I didn't see no instructions on what goes plugged in on the right spots.? Just took a quick glance in the box though.. Shouldn't be hard though im assuming.
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MrBalll
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Not hard at all. Normal light power plug goes into small black square and the cord coming off that goes into lightbulb.
Kman
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Why did you get 10k? Should have went with 4-6k.
chauncey0337
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Did you get the relay harness too? If not I'd suggest one to prevent flickering and misfires. The setup should be pretty straight forward. If you have any problems google 'hid wiring diagrams'.
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Just installed mine today, very straight forward. Dont know about your year but 07+ are reverse polarity which just requires you to flip the plug 180° on the balast.
4 or 6k? Can you see anything? I have always ran 10k(iceberg blue). It represents natural daylight. We run them in are snowmobiles,quads, rockets,side by sides and boats.
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EASY as pie. If you have the wiring harness, plug that into your ballast, if not. Plug in ply through your factory harness. You'll love the 10k...
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Natural daylight is 4500k at 55watts. Anything over 6k actually produces LESS usable light, thus you are lighting up the road worse.
Here is what 4500k @ 55w looks like:
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WOW......I'm impressed. Looks good. You may have a point on that natural daylight. It is between 4500k and 6k.
And I love my 10k's and i piss people off lighting up everything! The only thing I dont like is my 10k bulb closest to the battery goes yellowish after about 9 months of DD use(with the wiring harness). Drives me wild! Although VVME.com stands behind thier product, it is still an inconvienance.
I want to switch my business to xenonworlds.com or HIDguy, because of the warranty. I hear DDM does not have good customer service.
I just might have to order a set of new HID's now.
Thanks for your input......it was useful!
Another one suckered into the "blue is better" line of B.S....
Kman is right; 4300-5000k is your best bet for the most usable light. The blue light that you are using looks bright, but it's actually significantly less lumens. And what's pissing people off is probably the fact that bright blue is extremely hard for our eyes to process since it's not a natural color of illumination and our eyes are simply not made for it. It causes a lot more stress on the eyes of on-coming traffic than the whiter and slightly yellow hues even though they are actually technically brighter.
I'ma gonna guess you don't have projectors, either, which further exacerbates the glare issue....
Kman is right; 4300-5000k is your best bet for the most usable light. The blue light that you are using looks bright, but it's actually significantly less lumens. And what's pissing people off is probably the fact that bright blue is extremely hard for our eyes to process since it's not a natural color of illumination and our eyes are simply not made for it. It causes a lot more stress on the eyes of on-coming traffic than the whiter and slightly yellow hues even though they are actually technically brighter.
I'ma gonna guess you don't have projectors, either, which further exacerbates the glare issue....
oakrdrs187
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If you buy anything over 6000k because it's "Brighter" "Closer to Daylight" or "Lights up More", you aren't doing it right...
No I do not have projectors.... I have NEVER liked projectors. I have always ran a crystal clear(non waffle) style lens with black background and chrome background the throw the light.
I like my 10k hids. Always ran 10k just different brand before ddm. And just like yuko04 I've never liked aftermarket projectors either. I can't get black ones bc it wouldn't go with my suv and the clear/chrome ones look to tacky for me. The only ones I would consider getting would maybe be the denali ones without the amber reflector. And also how do you align your lights? My right one is higher then my left?? Do I have to mess with the angle of the bulb???
Aligning is goofy on aftermarket... the screw furthest to the outside finder is up/down and screw to the inside is left/right. But it is goofy because with my expierience, I go up and adjust and then do the left or right. If you go left or right to far then th sucker starts going up!
The way I have always adjusted HID's on the vehicles I have done....is by glare. Find a dark road at night and set out two reflectors on the road and adjust your glo. That has worked best for me. Damn if you put some tape on the garage door and get them suckers aligned, go drive it at night and them suckers are all kiddywampus!
The way I have always adjusted HID's on the vehicles I have done....is by glare. Find a dark road at night and set out two reflectors on the road and adjust your glo. That has worked best for me. Damn if you put some tape on the garage door and get them suckers aligned, go drive it at night and them suckers are all kiddywampus!
listen to DenaliAK on this one, knows what he's talking about!! they only "seem" brighter cause blue actually stands out more in human eye spectrum, and will actually fatigue eyes faster over long periods of driving. 4300k is the brightest color to the human eye, and for every 1000k over 4300k you loose about 10% of light output. Information from multiple sources smarter then me!! lol. 10k is overkill n pointless. 6k is highest u shuld run, IMO. to each there own tho
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projectors are the best for HID lights, why do u see every high end vehicle using them? Not sayin some cars don't use reflector style headlights w/ HID bulbs. BUT.. those reflector housings are also meant and calibrated for use with HID bulbs. using HID bulbs in halogen reflector housing, usually causes scattered lightening, and less light being put on road in front of vehicle. Projector style headlights only direct light straight in front of vehicle, and doesn't allow light to be scattered up, left, right and every other direction like reflectors can n do.
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projectors are the best for HID lights, why do u see every high end vehicle using them? Not sayin some cars don't use reflector style headlights w/ HID bulbs. BUT.. those reflector housings are also meant and calibrated for use with HID bulbs. using HID bulbs in halogen reflector housing, usually causes scattered lightening, and less light being put on road in front of vehicle. Projector style headlights only direct light straight in front of vehicle, and doesn't allow light to be scattered up, left, right and every other direction like reflectors can n do.
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Oh I hear ya! definetly takin the advice. I just ordered 8 new bulbs about an hour ago. 4 55w 9006 6k and 4 55w 880 6k. That will take care of the Saturn& the Yukon...If i like them, i guess i start swapping out my whole fleet of toys headlights. Yeah thanks guys...you just hit my wallet LOL!
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Lenses I have are for HID's. They have what you call a "glare eliminator" at the top of the lens. My lights have the 'line' like a projector does, where your glo isnt all in the trees. when i get time I'll snap a pic.
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Lenses I have are for HID's. They have what you call a "glare eliminator" at the top of the lens. My lights have the 'line' like a projector does, where your glo isnt all in the trees. when i get time I'll snap a pic.
You may not personally think the color is as "cool" or whatever, but I promise you there is going to be more light on the road with the new bulbs. That's pure scientific fact, so good choice.
I'd like to see your output shots. I've never heard of or seen a lens that adequately controls glare from HID's all by itself, so I'm genuinely interested in seeing this. That "line" you're talking about is called cutoff, btw, and what makes HID projectors superior in light control is a metal cutoff shield that physically blocks light...all light...from going above or below the shields.
And, for what it's worth, aftermarket projectors aren't made for HID's. Tons of people put HID's in them, but they are actually halogen projectors. There's only a handful of legit HID projectors out there, and to get them on our trucks requires a retrofit.
You may not personally think the color is as "cool" or whatever, but I promise you there is going to be more light on the road with the new bulbs. That's pure scientific fact, so good choice.
I'd like to see your output shots. I've never heard of or seen a lens that adequately controls glare from HID's all by itself, so I'm genuinely interested in seeing this. That "line" you're talking about is called cutoff, btw, and what makes HID projectors superior in light control is a metal cutoff shield that physically blocks light...all light...from going above or below the shields.
And, for what it's worth, aftermarket projectors aren't made for HID's. Tons of people put HID's in them, but they are actually halogen projectors. There's only a handful of legit HID projectors out there, and to get them on our trucks requires a retrofit.
AS soon as I get my truck back together I will give you a pic(torn down waitng for TBSS 3/5 kit).
"cutoff" your right. the seperation between light omittance and non-light omittance. Although my lenses arent projectors, they have they cutoff line from the so called "glare eliminator" i was telling you about.
See the thing I HATE about projectors and my personal opinion is when they are off. I do not like the bi-focal look when you walk up to your vehicle. There is way too much going on in that lens(to me). IMO......
Yeah, I getcha on the look thing. Some look better (or worse) than others, but the "eyeball" look does take some getting used to. I think mine are moderately discrete compared to many. I don't have big chrome shrouds around the lens or anything, and it's all seated at the back of the light instead of a rounded lens poking out.
I've seen a number of headlights that have a little cutoff shield/glare shield built into the reflector and projecting in front of the bulb, but I've never seen an actual lens with a cutoff line, which is why I'm interested in seeing it. No hurry, though...whenever you get a chance.
I've seen a number of headlights that have a little cutoff shield/glare shield built into the reflector and projecting in front of the bulb, but I've never seen an actual lens with a cutoff line, which is why I'm interested in seeing it. No hurry, though...whenever you get a chance.
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retro fit is way to expensive, i'll stick with the slight glare. 4yrs +
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