Some people just don't get it, never will, and/or don't care.
If the box says it's bright and blue, it must be better, right?
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Some people just don't get it, never will, and/or don't care.
If the box says it's bright and blue, it must be better, right?
laydout97
05'Tahoe
Again, everyone has their own opinion but no where did this thread ask what color lights do you like. It was started to inform a member about HID's. If you don't like the color of the lights, fine, but I also don't remember anyone asking for your opinion either!
Eagle
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I didn;t ask for your opinion either.
His choices (and yours) affect other's liberty and safety, as a result it is always permissible to open discussion on his choices of bulb color and suitability of retrofitting, it is part and parcel of providing FULL information.
You are free to spray paint "Cop killer", "I shoot donut eaters", and "Allah Ahkbar" all over your vehicle, drive around with red/blue wig wags on, in the nude, flipping the bird with your butt out the window, while waving a pistol... if you choose to.
Freedom to make mistakes and commit crimes, doesn't mean the right to not hear what a dumb idea it is to do so.
You not only affect those you encounter daily, but it is those stupid ass blue bulbs that cause most of the complaints and caused the NHTSA, etc. to open investigations, and take actions to stop the importation and sale of HID kits.
I'll flatly state the unpopular :
You driving around with blue hids in those POS reflectors = extreme douchebaggery, IMHO.
I can understand how tempting it can be to take the quick and easy route, especially on vehicles that came with sealed beams, but this is one of the most offensive light patterns I have ever seen, and blue only makes it worse.
His choices (and yours) affect other's liberty and safety, as a result it is always permissible to open discussion on his choices of bulb color and suitability of retrofitting, it is part and parcel of providing FULL information.
You are free to spray paint "Cop killer", "I shoot donut eaters", and "Allah Ahkbar" all over your vehicle, drive around with red/blue wig wags on, in the nude, flipping the bird with your butt out the window, while waving a pistol... if you choose to.
Freedom to make mistakes and commit crimes, doesn't mean the right to not hear what a dumb idea it is to do so.
You not only affect those you encounter daily, but it is those stupid ass blue bulbs that cause most of the complaints and caused the NHTSA, etc. to open investigations, and take actions to stop the importation and sale of HID kits.
I'll flatly state the unpopular :
You driving around with blue hids in those POS reflectors = extreme douchebaggery, IMHO.
I can understand how tempting it can be to take the quick and easy route, especially on vehicles that came with sealed beams, but this is one of the most offensive light patterns I have ever seen, and blue only makes it worse.
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laydout97
05'Tahoe
It's kinda hard to see any kind of light pattern in dense fog and under a street light regardless of who's vehicle it's on. He asked to see the color of the bulb. I was being helpful to show him. I never asked for anyone's opinion on what they thought about my vehicle. If you don't like it, fine. I don't expect you to. I didn't come on this forum to cause trouble, I came here to be helpful. I haven't seen anyone else showing him bulb colors and I don't see you telling him the RIGHT choice.
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Keep it on topic guys. The OP was not asking for your opinions on the color of lights and if you like them or not.
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tybardy
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actually my choice is 6000k because the discription was as follows "6000k - bright white"
However, to each their own gentleman... for sure no need to get upset!
EDIT-- BTW Eagle, what do you mean by cheap ass reflectors? Are the HID's not going to work right with my factory lights?
However, to each their own gentleman... for sure no need to get upset!
EDIT-- BTW Eagle, what do you mean by cheap ass reflectors? Are the HID's not going to work right with my factory lights?
Ty, good choice on the color. It will be a little blue looking at it, but mostly white on the road.
To answer your other question, your lights, being reflectors, are not made for HID's. So no, they won't work, at least not correctly. And that's my and I think Eagle's whole point. HID's are designed for HID projectors only...not any old light you want to throw them. They are 300% more light then stock bulbs.
Reflectors simply openly reflect whatever light is available into a non-focused direction; essentially, they put the light in front of your car. More light=more light in front of your car. That is good for you, bad for oncoming traffic. Reflectors have no way to limit glare to other drivers. Projectors have very focused beams of light with specific cut-off points to keep the beam of light from HID's out of traffic's eyes.
Short version, HID's aren't even legal in your lights. This isn't to start an argument or anything, but there is a reason for that. Check out the pics of my lights in the tech section to see a focused beam with appropriate cut-off to keep the light out of on-coming eyes. There are aftermarket lights you can get with decent projectors that can help greatly enhance the HID's, even if they aren't a "true" HID projector. You may want to look into getting a set of those.
Hope this helps answer your question.
To answer your other question, your lights, being reflectors, are not made for HID's. So no, they won't work, at least not correctly. And that's my and I think Eagle's whole point. HID's are designed for HID projectors only...not any old light you want to throw them. They are 300% more light then stock bulbs.
Reflectors simply openly reflect whatever light is available into a non-focused direction; essentially, they put the light in front of your car. More light=more light in front of your car. That is good for you, bad for oncoming traffic. Reflectors have no way to limit glare to other drivers. Projectors have very focused beams of light with specific cut-off points to keep the beam of light from HID's out of traffic's eyes.
Short version, HID's aren't even legal in your lights. This isn't to start an argument or anything, but there is a reason for that. Check out the pics of my lights in the tech section to see a focused beam with appropriate cut-off to keep the light out of on-coming eyes. There are aftermarket lights you can get with decent projectors that can help greatly enhance the HID's, even if they aren't a "true" HID projector. You may want to look into getting a set of those.
Hope this helps answer your question.
Rollin Thunder
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Just to add, Putting HIDS in denali projectors, is alot better, As they atleast have the proper optics to cut off glare from oncoming traffic.
But I should add that remember, Even cars today have reflector HIDS, 09 back mustang, 07 back navigator, Even the new prius, new town car, some Lexus, new volvo xc90s, etc, all have reflector HIDS, So reflectors can be designed to handle HIDS, Its just that ours are not, But I gotta say that the reflectors on my 07 yukon are pretty damn good and look just like stock HID Reflectors, the cutoff is actually pretty sharp , and the beam is just as good as when I had halogens in it.
But I should add that remember, Even cars today have reflector HIDS, 09 back mustang, 07 back navigator, Even the new prius, new town car, some Lexus, new volvo xc90s, etc, all have reflector HIDS, So reflectors can be designed to handle HIDS, Its just that ours are not, But I gotta say that the reflectors on my 07 yukon are pretty damn good and look just like stock HID Reflectors, the cutoff is actually pretty sharp , and the beam is just as good as when I had halogens in it.
Rollin Thunder
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HIghbeams shouldnt matter, cause well, their highbeams, you dont use them around other people and when you see another car you shut them off.
Knock yourself out....
you guys are no fun. i was hoping someone would at least get all bent out of shape and tell me it wasn't a good idea.
Eagle
Thansk for all the help -STAFF!
in his pics he had a set of those diamond back sealed beam conversion lights... and they are terrible, terrible pattern, and iirc the pattern isn't even DOT legal ( dot =bad,lots of upthrown light and hot spots, but tolerable).
6000 Kelvin isn;t bright white, 4300K is, while 5000K has a hint of blue, just enough to make your brain think they are whiter. 6k is white with blue highlights, if that makes any sense, unless you are overdriving the capsules by 40% with a 55w ballast. in that case a '6000k' bulb gets washed out to about 4300k.
the reason for the 'blue' bulbs is because you don't get any color shift with a reflector like you do on the cutoff line of a projector... it's strictly to make sure it LOOKS like you have HIDs.
this is a reasonably well controlled pattern (E codes).
An i'm sorry for being so damn touchy but some ******** nearly killed my family because he had purple HID... he couldn't see any light on the wet road while simultaneously blinding the hell out of me, I couldn't see the road, him, anything... just a wall of purplish white light.
Rollin Thunder
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^^^ the cutoff is good on that, but the beam spread is CRAP!!! My yukons reflectors have a much better spread than that, no hotspots at all, I need to get a pic up. I have 4300k 55w HIDS in the yukon and they have a good bit of blue in them, more than I would like, the ballests say 55w and the bulbs say 4300k, The bulbs are DDM but the ballests are off an older kit of mine thats much higher quality. Maybe I need some new bulbs.
Even 4300k has a tiny bluish tint to it when being viewed from the front. Not sure why, since the light is definitely not tinged blue, at least on mine. I had 55w ddm's in 5000k in my old car and they were too blue for me. Enough to wash out pretty bad on wet roads.
That's another thing for everyone to consider, too, when choosing color. If all you want is to look cool, fine. I won't argue. But if you honestly want good light keep in mind that the bluer it is the worse the light is. I don't just mean in terms of lumens (brightness), either. It is actually less effective and harder on your eyes. When it's raining, snowy, or foggy, they are especially bad as the blue wavelength is short and scatters easily.
There is a reason OEM headlights are the color they are: It is the most effective and least stressful on human eyes, which are made to function their best in daylight.
Not trying to lecture, just educate so people make knowledgeable decisions.
/end lesson
Oh...and someone try these out and report back on what happens to your housings after leaving them on for a while: http://www.dxhid.com/70wattxenon.htm
I cannot believe anyone is actually selling these.
That's another thing for everyone to consider, too, when choosing color. If all you want is to look cool, fine. I won't argue. But if you honestly want good light keep in mind that the bluer it is the worse the light is. I don't just mean in terms of lumens (brightness), either. It is actually less effective and harder on your eyes. When it's raining, snowy, or foggy, they are especially bad as the blue wavelength is short and scatters easily.
There is a reason OEM headlights are the color they are: It is the most effective and least stressful on human eyes, which are made to function their best in daylight.
Not trying to lecture, just educate so people make knowledgeable decisions.
/end lesson
Oh...and someone try these out and report back on what happens to your housings after leaving them on for a while: http://www.dxhid.com/70wattxenon.htm
I cannot believe anyone is actually selling these.
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Eagle
Thansk for all the help -STAFF!
Just for the love of god, please don't run 8ks in your DRLs + Lows with the low 4 diode hack!
some Summers Eve mofo in an 04 Silvy on 24s had that set up on the way home from the store a couple of hours ago.. Migrane inducing after 6 minutes of being followed and/or alternating places in traffic!
The headlights were pretty bad, but the DRL HIDs... ouch!
RT: those were the 18 year old second hand E-code projectors in my old 5 series.
Long focal length, so not so much beam spread unlike modern HID projectors (aka TSX). When you think about it, less beam spread is the best way to get good light where you need it at 130 mph (well down the road) from just a plain jane h1 bulb.
I'm quite disappointed that I can't find any Ecode/Export headlights for the Tahoe.
I guess I'll have to retrofit my own projectors, try depo, or depo+retro like DenaliAK did.
some Summers Eve mofo in an 04 Silvy on 24s had that set up on the way home from the store a couple of hours ago.. Migrane inducing after 6 minutes of being followed and/or alternating places in traffic!
The headlights were pretty bad, but the DRL HIDs... ouch!
RT: those were the 18 year old second hand E-code projectors in my old 5 series.
Long focal length, so not so much beam spread unlike modern HID projectors (aka TSX). When you think about it, less beam spread is the best way to get good light where you need it at 130 mph (well down the road) from just a plain jane h1 bulb.
I'm quite disappointed that I can't find any Ecode/Export headlights for the Tahoe.
I guess I'll have to retrofit my own projectors, try depo, or depo+retro like DenaliAK did.
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Rollin Thunder
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Even 4300k has a tiny bluish tint to it when being viewed from the front. Not sure why, since the light is definitely not tinged blue, at least on mine. I had 55w ddm's in 5000k in my old car and they were too blue for me. Enough to wash out pretty bad on wet roads.
That's another thing for everyone to consider, too, when choosing color. If all you want is to look cool, fine. I won't argue. But if you honestly want good light keep in mind that the bluer it is the worse the light is. I don't just mean in terms of lumens (brightness), either. It is actually less effective and harder on your eyes. When it's raining, snowy, or foggy, they are especially bad as the blue wavelength is short and scatters easily.
There is a reason OEM headlights are the color they are: It is the most effective and least stressful on human eyes, which are made to function their best in daylight.
Not trying to lecture, just educate so people make knowledgeable decisions.
/end lesson
Oh...and someone try these out and report back on what happens to your housings after leaving them on for a while: http://www.dxhid.com/70wattxenon.htm
I cannot believe anyone is actually selling these.
Just ordered a 9005 kit, Just to see how bright it really is.
Rollin Thunder
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you bet
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So what would a pair of 9005CB's bulbs be like?
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