Bad mpg?

[blanchard7684]

Now you're trying to hopeless spin crap because you know you've been proven wrong, (several times so far) and are tying yet again to grasp at straws by taking things out of context.

Look again and see if I said anything even remotely like that stupid statement of yours above ,,, please quote that.
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No I follow completely.

The more you restrict displacement the higher the pressure you get at bdc.

Antonm: come watch my Boyle’s law bit, 8 pm tonight! Door fee waived for good pictures of feet or explanation of dfm

 

[blanchard7684]

With this new finding in combustion engines, NHRA is now opening up a new class: Boyle's law machines.

 

[Antonm]

With this new finding in combustion engines, NHRA is now opening up a new class: Boyle's law machines.

Not a new finding at all. Its been a law (not a theory, not a hypothesis, but a law) for a few centuries now. And all NHRA engines work in accordance with this law right now and always have (just like the engines in our Tahoes and our lawn movers do too).

 

[Joseph Garcia]

You guys have had a somewhat rambling but very interesting discussion in this thread. I've learned a few things reading it. That's the good.

The bad is that you both acted like spoiled children throughout the discussion, insulting each other in numerous ways, something I'd expect on Facebook or X (though I read neither), and not something that all of the rest of the adults on this great Forum care for or want to be part of. And, personally, I don't care which of you is right or wrong in the discussion.

@Fless @soulsea IMO, this thread should be closed, as this is not the type of respectful adult interaction that we want (newbies to see and replicate) on this Forum.

 

[blanchard7684]

This Sunday… come watch small displacement engines jack up cylinder pressures to make insane power.

 

[blanchard7684]

You guys have had a somewhat rambling but very interesting discussion in this thread. I've learned a few things reading it. That's the good.

The bad is that you both acted like spoiled children throughout the discussion, insulting each other in numerous ways, something I'd expect on Facebook or X (though I read neither), and not something that all of the rest of the adults on this great Forum care for or want to be part of. And, personally, I don't care which of you is right or wrong in the discussion.

@Fless @soulsea IMO, this thread should be closed, as this is not the type of respectful adult interaction that we want (newbies to see and replicate) on this Forum.

No offense but Antonm insulted me viciously in every single post.

His attachments even were labeled with an insulting name “ clueless guy”

 

[Antonm]

No I follow completely.

The more you restrict displacement the higher the pressure you get at bdc.

Antonm: come watch my Boyle’s law bit, 8 pm tonight! Door fee waived for good pictures of feet or explanation of dfm

For a given mass of air , that is true, the more you restrict displacement (make it smaller) the higher the pressure at bottom dead cylinder will be. That is a scientific fact.

Anyone with an air compressor has seen/ experienced this first had as the air compression is pushing more and more quantity of air int its tank, the pressure in that tank goes up.

Since you are talking about race engines and the NHRA now, can I assume you've moved on from talking about two engines of different displacement making the same power at part throttle cruising and are now going for a wide open throttle/ max power discussion to try and hide your ignorance ?

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[Antonm]

This Sunday… come watch small displacement engines jack up cylinder pressures to make insane power.

You seem to be equating cylinder pressure at bottom dead center with power,,,,,your own equations say power is equal to efficiencies times fuel flow.

We've talked about this already, in real easy / elementary terms that you're still not grasping or just refusing to admit you're wrong so you keep arguing making nonsensical statements (and saying things like Boyles law is wrong/ doesn't work is total nonsense).

I've shown you how you're wrong in every silly statement you've made, while only using the very equations you posted (I wanted to bring in p1*v1= p2*v2, but since I could demonstrate the same principles with your equations I just used them).

You keep going off the handle with these ridiculous , "small engine this" and "NHRA that",,, would you like a specific claim, or specific point about something so that I can show you AGAIN, just how freaking clueless you are? Or would you rather finally admit that you were mistaken, and that now you've learned a few things?
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[Antonm]

No offense but Antonm insulted me viciously in every single post.

His attachments even were labeled with an insulting name “ clueless guy”

And do you wonder why I referred to you as "clueless guy"???

I'll give you a hint, its because you were being, and still are being, a clueless internet troll.

And it amuses me to prove such clueless internet trolls wrong.


For those that are offended I offer;

And for those that would go on to say that I'm just a mean person for not caring one little bit if someone is offended, I offer:

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[blanchard7684]

You seem to be equating cylinder pressure at bottom dead center with power,,,,,your own equations say power is equal to efficiencies times fuel flow.

We've talked about this already, in real easy / elementary terms that you're still not grasping or just refusing to admit you're wrong so you keep arguing making nonsensical statements (and saying things like Boyles law is wrong/ doesn't work is total nonsense).

I've shown you how you're wrong in every silly statement you've made, while only using the very equations you posted (I wanted to bring in p1*v1= p2*v2, but since I could demonstrate the same principles with your equations I just used them).

You keep going off the handle with these ridiculous , "small engine this" and "NHRA that",,, would you like a specific claim, or specific point about something so that I can show you AGAIN, just how freaking clueless you are? Or would you rather finally admit that you were mistaken, and that now you've learned a few things?
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I get it man.

Despite 100 years of engine design and research at OEM and university, it all comes down to a conclusion from Boyle's law: reduce displacement to increase pressure at bottom dead center, which increases power.

Good stuff.

I can't get enough. keep typing.

 

[blanchard7684]

And do you wonder why I referred to you as "clueless guy"???

I'll give you a hint, its because you were being, and still are being, a clueless internet troll.

And it amuses me to prove such clueless internet trolls wrong.


For those that are offended I offer;



And for those that would go on to say that I'm just a mean person for not caring one little bit if someone is offended, I offer:



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Didn't say I was offended.

Hint: Lions aren't concerned with opinions of sheep.

 

[Antonm]

I get it man.

Despite 100 years of engine design and research at OEM and university, it all comes down to a conclusion from Boyle's law: reduce displacement to increase pressure at bottom dead center, which increases power.

Good stuff.

I can't get enough. keep typing.

Please do quote where I said anything even remotely close to that stupid statement you just made. Because you're just talking out of your ass and trying to redirect again.

And if you figured out that Boyles law is in fact wrong,,,then you'd be a shoe-in for a noble prize, but somehow I don't think that's the case,,,I think you're just a dumb internet troll.
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[Antonm]

Didn't say I was offended.

Hint: Lions aren't concerned with opinions of sheep.

Apparently the English language also alludes you.

What did I say in that post , lets scroll back up and see,,,

I said " For those that are offended I offer;"

This is an open forum, and we are not the only two readers, hence the wording "For those that are" and not "to clueless guy internet troll".

So now you've demonstrated that not only do you not understand basic of math/ can't understand the equations that you posted, you also struggle with reading comprehension.

You know, your struggle with reading comprehension might explain a lot actually. They have therapies to help with reading comprehension, maybe look into one.
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[blanchard7684]

Please do quote where I said anything even remotely close to that stupid statement you just made. Because you're just talking out of you ass and trying to redirect again.

And if you figured out that Boyles law is in fact wrong,,,then you'd be a shoe-in for a noble prize, but somehow I don't think that's the case,,,I think you're just a dumb internet troll.
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No need to get mad.

I've learned well from your take on Boyle's law that reduced displacement increases pressure at bottom dead center.

The irrefutable conclusion is that power increases.

You should be proud, man!

Golf clap.

 

[Antonm]

No need to get mad.

I've learned well from your take on Boyle's law that reduced displacement increases pressure at bottom dead center.

The irrefutable conclusion is that power increases.

You should be proud, man!

Golf clap.

Pretty I've asked you (like a few times) to quote where I've said anything even remotely close to that.

But you haven't, probably because you know it'd just re-enforce how dumb you are by showing the statements were you think it says this, but clearly don't.

And mad,,,what are you talking about? I'm laughing my ass off at you with every post, if I wasn't entertained, I wouldn't keep coming back. This is making the work day go by a lot quicker, so thanks for that at least.
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[Antonm]

Hint: Lions aren't concerned with opinions of sheep.

lol , this is the Lion that everyone that calls themselves a lion really is. Just like people that call themselves alpha or whatever other dumb shit they think makes them seem impressive to others. If you gotta tell people that you're something, then you aren't whatever that is.

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[blanchard7684]

lol , this is the Lion that everyone that calls themselves a lion really is. Just like people that call themselves alpha or whatever other dumb shit they think makes them seem impressive to others. If you gotta tell people that you're something, then you aren't whatever that is.

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Coming from the guy who thinks Boyles law proves lower displacement increases power.

There is actually no better description for you than "beta".

Again...I can't thank you enough for the amusement.

I'll hit you up when I've built my minimal displacement super machine so you can see the results.

 

[blanchard7684]

Pretty I've asked you (like a few times) to quote where I've said anything even remotely close to that.

But you haven't, probably because you know it'd just re-enforce how dumb you are by showing the statements were you think it says this, but clearly don't.

And mad,,,what are you talking about? I'm laughing my ass off at you with every post, if I wasn't entertained, I wouldn't keep coming back. This is making the work day go by a lot quicker, so thanks for that at least.
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You've made your point very clear.

I understand it perfectly: lower displacement will increase power, because Boyle's law says so.

It is P1V1 = P2V2.

Got it.

Nobel stuff.

 

[Antonm]

Coming from the guy who thinks Boyles law proves lower displacement increases power.

There is actually no better description for you than "beta".

Again...I can't thank you enough for the amusement.

I'll hit you up when I've built my minimal displacement super machine so you can see the results.

What does this make, the fifth time, I challenged you to quote where I've said anything even remotely similar to that statement, yet you can't

So I'll say it again (maybe repetition will help with you reading comprehension issue), I challenge you to quote where I have said anything like that. Please do, so that I can so you yet again how misguided (misguided in a nice word for dumb BTW) you are.
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[Antonm]

You've made your point very clear.

I understand it perfectly: lower displacement will increase power, because Boyle's law says so.

What does this make, the fifth time, I challenged you to quote where I've said anything even remotely similar to that statement, yet you can't.It is P1V1 = P2V2.

Got it.

Nobel stuff.

you've got a case of the stupid is what you've got (and a bad case at that).

I've lost count now, but I again challenge you AGAIN to quote where I've said anything like these ridiculous things you keep saying.

And yes, Boyle saw is in fact a scientific law (and it freaking hilarious that you're arguing against it BTW).

You know what's even more funny,,,I haven't even used p1*V1=P2*v2 (which is a 100% true equation BTW) to prove you wrong,,, the only equations I've used are the ones YOU posted.

So now are you now saying that not only is Boyle's law is wrong, but so are the equations that YOU posted (you know the only equations I've used to show you how wrong you are,,,those equations)?
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