6.2 engine replacement Yukon Denali please share your experience

[Nexus]

I just recently took my 2024 Yukon Denali Ultimate with 4500 miles on it and had it tested the for (L87) engine issue.
The service tech came in and said your engine failed the test which completely surprised me because I have seen
no issues with the engine knocking or performance. I had only recently had the first oil change ( done at the dealership)
I took the filter home and disassembled it with very little if any metal in the filter and it was the original first filter.


I asked him about the engine replacement timeframe they were unable to give me a time on receiving a new engine.
So I asked the service tech can I still drive it and he said yes. I would not take it on a long trip. This is a little confusing if
the engine is in such a shape it needs to be replaced should I not run it? Now it would be like a doctor tell you you have
to have to have a heart transplant but going home and don't do any jogging we will call you when the heart comes in.


So I'm wondering will this devalue my very expensive Yukon? I'm sure this will show up in a Carfax (engine replaced).
I had many 6.2 Yukon with no issues, but I usually trade up every three years. I think now I might need to make change
even though this is under warranty replacing an engine and all the connections etc. can also add other issues in the future.


And then from my online research it gets confusing is there still an extended warranty on the new engine or not some say
that there is just a standard factory warranty after the engine is replaced others have said the ten year 150 thousand mile
extended warranty that comes with the new engine.



Also are these engines brand new. Or are they remand? How would you know.



If you had your 6.2 engine replaced, please share your experiences and any issues after the fact.
Did you trade or sell it after it was replaced?




Thanks

 

[West 1]

If I were you I would be happy they are replacing the engine. Value of your truck will go up and not down. There is a known engine issue that will devalue all of these rigs some but yours will have paperwork showing they replaced your engine with a new engine.

I suspect it will be all new GM engine. GM had contracts with AER in Dallas Texas to build engines for the GM reman program. AER builds for Ford, GM, Nissan. They only do first class rebuilds and one of their engines will perform 100% as long as any GM build. I have seen their machines and processes they are top notch. AER when I saw them could rebuild 5,000 engines per month.
GM at their engine building facility can produce several thousand engines per day so I suspect GM is building these replacements in house.

 

[Nexus]

You're correct, when I talked to other GM dealers and salespeople, they say it will not devalue it but might even increase its value because you have fixed an issue. I talked to the service took earlier today, he says right now maybe two weeks out for the engine from parts department. He also said that out of 500 tests throughout their dealership chain on the 6.2 is had about 40 that did not pass. Which is more than I would've thought.

 

[Joseph Garcia]

You're correct, when I talked to other GM dealers and salespeople, they say it will not devalue it but might even increase its value because you have fixed an issue. I talked to the service took earlier today, he says right now maybe two weeks out for the engine from parts department. He also said that out of 500 tests throughout their dealership chain on the 6.2 is had about 40 that did not pass. Which is more than I would've thought.

OK. You've got your answers. The next decision is yours, after the motor is replaced. =====>>>>> Keep or replace the truck.

I vote for you keeping it.

 

[Nexus]

You are very intuitive.

Yes, the jury is still out on that answer.

But a Land Rover Defender 130 V8 has just now has come into view

 

[Stbentoak]

You are very intuitive.

Yes, the jury is still out on that answer.

But a Land Rover Defender 130 V8 has just now has come into view

I am certainly intrigued by the Defender, but dependability and cost of repair are always in the back of my mind with any JLR product. I will say it is a sharp vehicle.

 

[Nexus]

Here is a real good recent video I found on YouTube on real trade-in price with engine replacement

GM 6.2L L87 Recall Completion & Real Trade-In Prices Revealed

 

[TrueAt1stLight]

TL : DW summary???

 

[Antonm]

Personally I wouldn't touch a car with a dealership replaced engine with a 10 foot pole.

Dealership techs are paid based off book time (otherwise known as flat rate). Meaning if the book says this job takes 8 hours, then they get paid 8 hours of pay to do it, doesn't matter if they get it done in 4 hours or in 16 hours, they will always get paid 8 hours for completing the job.

And warranty time is often (if not always) less than regular time for the same job. So this makes the tech have a personal financial interest in getting the job done as quickly as possible (because if you can get two of those 8 hour book time jobs done in one day, you get 16 hours of pay in one day).

So speed in KING in the shop, as such a lot of shortcuts are taken and lot of things get missed (the techs are human after all).

If my 2023 Tahoe 6.2 (which is in the recall window) fails the PICO test, then it will be getting traded in ASAP , but it certainly will not be another GM product it gets traded for (thinking Lexus but haven't really decided) and I'll just take the hit.

Long post to say, if I were buying a used car and saw that an engine had been replaced under recall at a dealership, that car would be a hard pass for me.
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[Antonm]

And look at the people that are saying it wont affect resale or may actually increase resale,,, its not the people that actually know or write those trade-in checks.

Its like the solar panel salesman saying that adding roof solar panels will increase the value of your home, run that same question by a realtor and you get a way different answer.

Every car salesman ever "Of course you need and will benefit from whatever we're selling/ trying to get you to do. Heck it'll increase the value of your car having this recall done, we're doing you a favor,,, just sign here please"
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[Antonm]

Here is a real good recent video I found on YouTube on real trade-in price with engine replacement

GM 6.2L L87 Recall Completion & Real Trade-In Prices Revealed

Don't know where this dude is getting his information about dealerships not being able to sell used / traded in cars with an open recall, but its not true.

We recently purchased a used 2021 Toyota tundra (from a toyota dealership) for our oldest son, looking through the paperwork, it has an open recall (reverse lights or something). Asked the sales guy about it, he gave me a weird look and said "yeah we can sell it, you'll just get a letter to bring it in when parts are available".

A quick two second google search says the same thing (not just the goggle AI either, the first listing is carconumers.org).

Since dude in the video is from the great white north of Canada, I though maybe Canada might have different rules, so I asked google if dealerships in Canada could sell used cars with open recalls,,, yeap, they can sell them up there too.

Mis-information sure spreads fast in the modern connected world where every person has a YouTube channel.


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[blanchard7684]

For anyone considering jumping ship, realize it is shark infested waters:

Toyota just expanded their V35 engine recall (Tundra, Lexus twin turbo V6). It looks like the 2025s and many of the replacement engines are having same or worse failures.

 

[Jay P Wy]

Don't know where this dude is getting his information about dealerships not being able to sell used / traded in cars with an open recall, but its not true.






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That recall law only applies to new cars/trucks.

 

[petethepug]

A lot of good, solid info was offered up. Personal feelings and speculation was sprinkled on top. People don’t like the active suspension maintenance & repairs on a GM vehicle, oh boy, that’s not a road you want to go down with a landy along with a depreciation factor that’ll run you over in a year.

 

[Ghoff]

If I were you I would be happy they are replacing the engine. Value of your truck will go up and not down. There is a known engine issue that will devalue all of these rigs some but yours will have paperwork showing they replaced your engine with a new engine.

I suspect it will be all new GM engine. GM had contracts with AER in Dallas Texas to build engines for the GM reman program. AER builds for Ford, GM, Nissan. They only do first class rebuilds and one of their engines will perform 100% as long as any GM build. I have seen their machines and processes they are top notch. AER when I saw them could rebuild 5,000 engines per month.
GM at their engine building facility can produce several thousand engines per day so I suspect GM is building these replacements in house.

I guess I’m pretty brave but I bought a 23 Denali and the carfax showed that the engine had been replaced under warranty.

 

[petethepug]

Not brave, lucky. Be sure to find out what the new warranty on the truck is. Contact GM and get it in writing as it’s going to exceed the original warranty for the motor and/or truck.

 

[Eighthtry]

A lot of good, solid info was offered up. Personal feelings and speculation was sprinkled on top. People don’t like the active suspension maintenance & repairs on a GM vehicle, oh boy, that’s not a road you want to go down with a landy along with a depreciation factor that’ll run you over in a year.

What is the definition of an active suspension? I had a 2011 yukon denali xl with the MagnaRides front and rear, with air leveling on the back. Rode like a dream its entire life. I did need a compressor at about 175,000 miles. Otherwise no changes at 203,000 miles. It had a solid rear axle, but I can't imagine the new ones do anything other than align the front and rears on occasion.

Also had MagnaRides on my 2011 CTS V. No probems on the front at 208,000 miles, but replaced the back twice because of leakage. I consider the rear MagnaRides defective, which covers the PITA part of the equation.

 

[petethepug]

09+ Escalade has active suspension. It adjusts for rebound and compression. Unlike the 07-14 Burb, Tahoe & Yukon with hydraulic (Autoride) suspension, the Magneride also changes the viscosity of the (Mag) fluid in addition to the fluid in the valves.

You’re correct in 07-14 (autoride) and 09-14 (Magneride- Escalade), on both the Mag & Autoride, only the rear is pneumatically (air) adjustable for levelling.

Essentially it’s all active suspension. The cremè de la cremè is the UK & German vehicles with air suspension that’s speed and manually ride height adjustable on all four corners.

 

[jerry455]

If a dealer tech works the way you are saying, taking short cuts and doing a poor job, he won't be employed very long. Dealers count on survey from customers about the quality of their work. If a dealer has a poor rating the company gets involved. Techs learn very quickly on how to do their job quickly and with "short cuts" that we all take. Sometimes the service manual procedure is not the only or fastest way to do things. The more they do the job, they get better at it. Most are very highly skilled and do a great job. The dealer my truck is at currently for the recall is top notch, they do a great job and keep me updated along the way.

 

[Antonm]

If a dealer tech works the way you are saying, taking short cuts and doing a poor job, he won't be employed very long. Dealers count on survey from customers about the quality of their work. If a dealer has a poor rating the company gets involved. Techs learn very quickly on how to do their job quickly and with "short cuts" that we all take. Sometimes the service manual procedure is not the only or fastest way to do things. The more they do the job, they get better at it. Most are very highly skilled and do a great job. The dealer my truck is at currently for the recall is top notch, they do a great job and keep me updated along the way.

The automotive tech industry is hurting for people, so dealerships will hire anyone that shows up with the correct credentials, and they don't drug test. Firing people isn't an option when you're already operating at half recommended staffing.

If you want some interesting reading , and the opinions of several people to claim to be actual dealer techs, google (or YouTube) up the fairly recent story of "Ford Service Labor Time Standards (SLTS) study". While that one is unique to Ford, all the car companies have similar things going on. Spoiler alert, that study cut pay time for literally every job and the techs have nicknamed it "Slave Labor time standards". So they be rushing jobs even hardier now.
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