swathdiver
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Nah, the guy who designed the lamps and grill for the 1992-1996 F-150 gets the award, unless they are same fellow!
What did you do to your NNBS GMT900 Tahoe/Yukon Today?
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Charlie207
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Easy peasy bulb replacement. My Yukon only has one bulb per side, so that probably helped.
Driver's side only required removing the 2nd battery mounting bracket, and washer reservoir screw. Pushed it all to the side, and pulled back on the flexible plastic curtain. I stood facing forward, and could slide my right hand into the void, and unscrew the bad bulb.
From there I slowly pulled the bulb and harness out into the open and unclipped it. Installed the new bulb reverse order.
Passenger side was even easier.
I just pulled out my cone filter, and used a plastic (Christmas tree) clip remover to pop out the three clips holding the flexible plastic curtain, and it was a straight shot to the bulb.
Driver's side only required removing the 2nd battery mounting bracket, and washer reservoir screw. Pushed it all to the side, and pulled back on the flexible plastic curtain. I stood facing forward, and could slide my right hand into the void, and unscrew the bad bulb.
From there I slowly pulled the bulb and harness out into the open and unclipped it. Installed the new bulb reverse order.
Passenger side was even easier.
I just pulled out my cone filter, and used a plastic (Christmas tree) clip remover to pop out the three clips holding the flexible plastic curtain, and it was a straight shot to the bulb.
It's really a shame that GM didnt keep the setup used on NBS trucks. I can only assume this was to drive owners to the dealer for something as simple as bulb replacements. Maybe I am cynical but seems things that should be simple are being made extraordinarily difficult, by design. Engineers are there to create a solution to a problem that doesnt exist!
Charlie207
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It's really a shame that GM didnt keep the setup used on NBS trucks. I can only assume this was to drive owners to the dealer for something as simple as bulb replacements. Maybe I am cynical but seems things that should be simple are being made extraordinarily difficult, by design. Engineers are there to create a solution to a problem that doesnt exist!
Exactly.
You shouldn't need to watch 20 YouTube videos to formulate a plan to change lightbulbs.
I did it on company time, so at least I got paid to fix my truck. (shhh don't tell).
That was an ingenious design, and there’s a few more on that platform. Try pulling off a door panel on a NBS, then on a NNBS. A world of difference. It’s like the OG engineers all retired and the new guys took over.It's really a shame that GM didnt keep the setup used on NBS trucks. I can only assume this was to drive owners to the dealer for something as simple as bulb replacements. Maybe I am cynical but seems things that should be simple are being made extraordinarily difficult, by design. Engineers are there to create a solution to a problem that doesnt exist!
As I read this post I swear I hear something breaking behind the door panel.
Door panels were cake - If memory serves, 1 bolt and a few snap in connections. I hope the guy doing Ford lights mentioned earlier and the guy that did the NNBS are getting pineapples inserted (see Little Nicky movie) in hell!
Two screws, the only thing that unclips is the light switch assembly. The panel hangs on j hooks without clips. Just lift up.
the_tool_man
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My new transmission is in. The mechanic confirmed the old one was cooked. I had him change all the diff and transfer case fluids while he had it, and flush the cooling system since it got a new radiator.
Now he tells me I have to take it to the local GM dealer to re-flash the ECM so it'll recognize the new TCM. He says it drives fine, but is throwing a bunch of codes because it thinks it doesn't have a transmission.
This will erase my BB tune. And I'll have to pay a local shop to re-disable AFM (I refuse to deal with BB since they reneged on their lifetime tunes promise). This assumes, of course, that the dealer doesn't do something stupid like refuse to touch it because it's tuned. I'll try playing dumb and say I bought it like that. But the way my luck has been going lately, I won't be surprised if I get caught in no-man's land with the transmission shop and the dealer blaming each other for a bricked ECU, or worse. Wish me luck, lol.
Now he tells me I have to take it to the local GM dealer to re-flash the ECM so it'll recognize the new TCM. He says it drives fine, but is throwing a bunch of codes because it thinks it doesn't have a transmission.
This will erase my BB tune. And I'll have to pay a local shop to re-disable AFM (I refuse to deal with BB since they reneged on their lifetime tunes promise). This assumes, of course, that the dealer doesn't do something stupid like refuse to touch it because it's tuned. I'll try playing dumb and say I bought it like that. But the way my luck has been going lately, I won't be surprised if I get caught in no-man's land with the transmission shop and the dealer blaming each other for a bricked ECU, or worse. Wish me luck, lol.
gooffeyguy
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Would the new TCM be able to be programmed to the vehicle somehow with a Tech2?
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I would not even utter the word tune, just say it needs the tcm learned
I haven't done it myself but I believe that's all it needs is the tcm re learned to the vin so they can talk to each other
the_tool_man
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Tune? What's that?
the_tool_man
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That was a fun 3 mile drive from the transmission shop to the GM dealer. The instrument panel looked like a Christmas tree. Lots of warning messages; stabilitrack, traction control, blind spot sensors, ABS, etc. No gear indicator display. No backup camera. It wouldn't pull from a stop without full throttle. And it wouldn't shift out of 2nd gear. It's crazy how dependent this thing is on electronic communication.
I opted for the airbag recall. Why not.
I opted for the airbag recall. Why not.
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Just Fishing
Can't fix stupid
Know someone with hptuners?
If you do, pull the tune first!
I also heard that hp tuners might be able to flash the transmission tune vs having the dealership do it.
either way, get a backup of that tune.
Bad part, if the tcm is already removed.
then I believe you lose the bb tune for the transmission?
If you wanted to back it up, this will do the task.
Has two credits.
You will need one for the ECM, and one for the TCM.
You can also buy this w/o any credits and save $100.
the_tool_man
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The transmission shop I used, really more of a custom tuning place, uses HPTuners. He said he couldn't retune it if an AutoCal had already done it. He was afraid it would brick the ECM. He said he would re-do the tune (disable AFM, rear O2s) after the dealer is done re-flashing. It'll cost me about the same as BB would charge to do it (again).
Geoffsfas10
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Filled it with dinosaur juice....and turns out my passanger side HID bulb is on its way out, its purple now! SO new ones on order
Tonyv__
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Looking for a favor from anyone who lives life on the edge with no TPMS.
I’m trying to figure out if your truck will go into learn mode even if you have no sensors in your wheels.
I always bring my express van drama here. I’m fairly certain it falls in the NNBS category (2008 express NNBS style steering wheel and cluster).
I bought the van in 2019, the tpms system was working. I replaced the battery with an optima battery shortly after and the systems all reset. No readings from the TPMS system. Tried to relearn them and my van just would not go into learn mode. Searched the web with no luck. I let it go for months. In like 2020 I bought 4 new tires and I asked them if they could figure out why my sensors wouldn’t work. They called me and told me it would be like $500+ to even diagnose so I told them to just rip all the sensors out and install regular valve stems because 1 of the sensors was leaking anyway. I’ve chalked it up since then.
Fast foward to now. I’m exploring what I can do to try fix the issues. The information I’m receiving from other sites is that possibly the vehicle won’t even enter learn mode if no sensors are nearby/active. But no solid answers just speculation. I have my doubts because I have a hard time believing all 4 sensors went bad at the same time when I changed my battery in 2019.
If anyone who doesn’t have sensors installed could do me a solid and let me know if your truck will enter learn mode or just doesn’t respond when you try it. I’d greatly appreciate it.
I’m trying to figure out if your truck will go into learn mode even if you have no sensors in your wheels.
I always bring my express van drama here. I’m fairly certain it falls in the NNBS category (2008 express NNBS style steering wheel and cluster).
I bought the van in 2019, the tpms system was working. I replaced the battery with an optima battery shortly after and the systems all reset. No readings from the TPMS system. Tried to relearn them and my van just would not go into learn mode. Searched the web with no luck. I let it go for months. In like 2020 I bought 4 new tires and I asked them if they could figure out why my sensors wouldn’t work. They called me and told me it would be like $500+ to even diagnose so I told them to just rip all the sensors out and install regular valve stems because 1 of the sensors was leaking anyway. I’ve chalked it up since then.
Fast foward to now. I’m exploring what I can do to try fix the issues. The information I’m receiving from other sites is that possibly the vehicle won’t even enter learn mode if no sensors are nearby/active. But no solid answers just speculation. I have my doubts because I have a hard time believing all 4 sensors went bad at the same time when I changed my battery in 2019.
If anyone who doesn’t have sensors installed could do me a solid and let me know if your truck will enter learn mode or just doesn’t respond when you try it. I’d greatly appreciate it.
it should go into learn mode and then eventually time out if nothing is synced, I think times out in like 2 minutes if no activity. same nbs, nnbs, k2
