Quark
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How long until the rate gets tied to mileage?
Mandatory Onstar?
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Thomas Schneider
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I have a 2021, do not have a data plan, and wireless CarPlay works fine. I presume the same goes for the 2022 models as well.
WalleyeMikeIII
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Would be good to hear from a 2022 driver who let their data plan expire...
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22 High Country.
My data plan lapsed, wireless CarPlay continued to work. What I lost was some features in the built navigation (not carplay) such as speed limit, traffic and hazards, and the speed limit sign on the hud. Also lost google voice assistant and some other features of the infotainment system (apps)
But it would make too much sense for the entire system to just tether off of your cell phone data plan....
StephenPT
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Thread 'You don’t have to buy a data plan to use google maps!'
https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/you-don’t-have-to-buy-a-data-plan-to-use-google-maps.132600/
I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.
Seamus
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Well let me explain why some have an issue with Onstar. Just like our Apple iphones we agree to give up our privacy to get the shiny thing. Onstar is not just a service to you and a convienience or a saftey feature. It also tracks and stores all your information. Law enforcement, private investigators, and insurance investigators go after this info all the time. So maybe you like getting that notification to change your oil, and would you like to make an appointment at your dealer?? When you go on you GMC profile, notice its communicating with your truck, mileage, etc. Think maybe they make money selling your information?? Is it secure.? Some are very trusting of Onstar. Cant imagine why someone would trust a company that needs to make money. In other words they are making you the product. And you agree to it. Onstar is a great easy tool for Law enforcement. The argument of I am not doing anything wrong doesnt work. Its YOUR privacy and info. Its not protected and can be used against you. Yes insurance investigators hook right up to the truck after an accident and download all your info from the blackbox, Onstart is just extra. I have seen Onstar abused many times. Its a choice to get the shiny thing...many dont think about their privacy and info and being the product.
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There is some places in the WV mountains that you are not even supposed to use a cell phone let alone have service or any other RF device. There are radio telescopes there that they don't want the interference to affect them.
Dayzoo
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They can still have CarPlay, it's just not wireless...
I think this subscription 'thing' is the new future - look at computer software as well - no more purchasing the program - it's all monthly subscriptions now. Certainly not how I'd like things to go, but.....
I have a feeling I’ll be taking care of my 2009 & 2010 for a long time …They can still have CarPlay, it's just not wireless...
I think this subscription 'thing' is the new future - look at computer software as well - no more purchasing the program - it's all monthly subscriptions now. Certainly not how I'd like things to go, but.....
Sparksalot
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You won’t be alone in that.
StephenPT
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Did GMC remove the OnStar requirement? When I build and price a Yukon I don’t see the “option” anywhere in the list. It’s also not shown on the summary page at the end of the build? Maybe I’m just not seeing it, but it looks like the requirement has been dropped.
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Maybe it isn't listed as an "option" like tires or a windshield..... ( maybe thrown in as a base factory install ?) I would contact your dealer rep.
WalleyeMikeIII
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Seems it’s now listed as standard equipment. GM
Must have wised up and just bumped the base price abs “included” it vs. itemizing as mandatory option.
Must have wised up and just bumped the base price abs “included” it vs. itemizing as mandatory option.
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If you haven't seen my post in the lounge section, just want to let everybody know that during Hurricane Ian in Fort Myers OnStar was absolutely the only thing functioning as far as Communications goes... there was Zero cell, Zero Internet, zero Towers, nothing... no contact at all. Radio Silence. OnStar was able to answer and Patch calls through to people that needed desperate information. I take back any negative comments I said about them in previous posts. They also were able to send directions to my vehicle as we evacuated to Miami as common routes were not available.
I for one, don't care about a measily $25 a month. That service will stay on for me.
I for one, don't care about a measily $25 a month. That service will stay on for me.
Agreed. It's just an added profit margin item that allows too much snooping and the ability to remotely control your vehicle.
Had it on 8 vehicles since 2001 and never used it once. It's a waste
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Back in the 60's they added seatbelts. Did YOU ask for them? That added cost to the vehicles. So did safety glass in all the windows. What about radial tires? They were optional but then became mandatory. Did YOU ask for that? I mean come on, they could put a solid front axle back on all 4x4s as that would be cheaper. Just the ride and handling wouldn't be as good. But did YOU ask to pay more for independent front suspension? Cars and truck manufacturers have been doing things like this since Henry Ford said "They can buy a model T in ANY color they want as long as it's BLACK".
And please don't say I'm for OnStar. I'm actually one of those that hates the idea that some cop (not a good one but one with an agenda) or a nerd living in a basement can find and shut off my truck with me in it. Lock the doors etc. So me personally I'd like it removed, but I'm also against seatbelts in some cases (highways-yes, slow off-road no). But I don't see either of them being removed anytime soon.
Would it have been better to just hide it in the cost as a regular feature? Sure, and most wouldn't bat an eye. But instead they didn't and now YOU think you should be able to say what they do. But as I've shown, they do what makes them $$$, what the government demands, and what the majority of customers want. Not what a small minority demand.
That's not to say that if enough people complain it can't change. But hell more should complain about our corrupt government and demand change as that's costing lives and way more than $1600 for 3 years of OnStar.
And please don't say I'm for OnStar. I'm actually one of those that hates the idea that some cop (not a good one but one with an agenda) or a nerd living in a basement can find and shut off my truck with me in it. Lock the doors etc. So me personally I'd like it removed, but I'm also against seatbelts in some cases (highways-yes, slow off-road no). But I don't see either of them being removed anytime soon.
Would it have been better to just hide it in the cost as a regular feature? Sure, and most wouldn't bat an eye. But instead they didn't and now YOU think you should be able to say what they do. But as I've shown, they do what makes them $$$, what the government demands, and what the majority of customers want. Not what a small minority demand.
That's not to say that if enough people complain it can't change. But hell more should complain about our corrupt government and demand change as that's costing lives and way more than $1600 for 3 years of OnStar.
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