4 Piston Big Brake Upgrade from 2019-20

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I had no problems getting mine from Summit Racing, but that was 3 months ago. The U.S. market is still having supply-chain issues throughout the automotive industry, so that is probably the case with the calipers.
 

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They have been on backorder a while now.
 

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Anyone having an issue finding the left calliper on the front? I can get the right one all day long but can’t get the left one. Summit doesn’t have any. Anyone have a better place to check?
I got mine from a junkyard I found on www.car-part.com. It came off of a 2020 Sierra AT4.
 

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It's unlikely this info will help anybody but I can confirm that these brakes will clear 2008-2011 Dodge ram 2500 factory forged 17" wheels when 8 lug adapters are used to fit them on the front of an NBS truck.

Does anyone see any deals on pads and rotors for these? Or even a place to buy OEM pads and rotors as a kit instead of piecing stuff together.

Here's the barrel clearance at the top where it's usually the closest and, the wheels I'm referring to.
 

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It's unlikely this info will help anybody but I can confirm that these brakes will clear 2008-2011 Dodge ram 2500 factory forged 17" wheels when 8 lug adapters are used to fit them on the front of an NBS truck.

Does anyone see any deals on pads and rotors for these? Or even a place to buy OEM pads and rotors as a kit instead of piecing stuff together.

Here's the barrel clearance at the top where it's usually the closest and, the wheels I'm referring to.
I bought my rotors and pads from www.r1concepts.com. They'll send you coupon codes for 25% and 30% off all the time if you give them your email address. There are cheaper options, but I kept reading great reviews about their stuff so I decided to give them a try. So far I've been happy.
 

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I bought my rotors and pads from www.r1concepts.com. They'll send you coupon codes for 25% and 30% off all the time if you give them your email address. There are cheaper options, but I kept reading great reviews about their stuff so I decided to give them a try. So far I've been happy.

That was actually the first place I checked! I have a set of their pads and rotors on my 4 piston swapped tahoe that have been great so far but I haven't gotten a cupon from them in 2 months so I was looking elsewhere. Might end up with Powerstops NOT drilled/slotted rotor and pad combo for $193.
 

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That was actually the first place I checked! I have a set of their pads and rotors on my 4 piston swapped tahoe that have been great so far but I haven't gotten a cupon from them in 2 months so I was looking elsewhere. Might end up with Powerstops NOT drilled/slotted rotor and pad combo for $193.
Better resubmit your info to R1 Concepts. I get a message from them every day. Right now I'm getting two or three a day.
 

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Better resubmit your info to R1 Concepts. I get a message from them every day. Right now I'm getting two or three a day.
I may have unsubscribed from one or two of their many distribution lists but it’s ok I found OEM rotors for a good price and an OEM style pad from powerstop to top it off. Should all be here in a week or so.
 

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At least for the front, compared against a 2009 model:

Rotors are same dimensions

Calipers are the same - identical OEM part number


Neat to see the years of compatibility
 

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So, I just got done doing this to my 2004 Z71 Tahoe. I came across this thread and then found some take offs for pretty cheap from a 2021 Silverado. Initially a tried putting them on with my stock 17s. I could have gotten them to work with some grinding of the caliper or a spacer as many have done. The lip on the side was not a problem, just the radius. But I found some takeoff 18s that fit beautifully. The tires sit a bit wider with the newer rims, but it works good.

As far as effectiveness, I decided to experiment a little. I put on one side first and took it for a short drive. I expected with the bigger brakes on the one side it would pull to that side when braking. What I found was that with light braking, there was no noticeable pull, meaning the braking was pretty close to the same between the old and new rotors. However, when I tries medium and hard braking, it did pull toward the newer brakes. It wasn't a huge pull, but it was noticeable.

Once I got both calipers installed, I tried it again. I do notice a little more effective braking. Is it a lot? no. But it is there. I would say it's a nice upgrade. They certainly look cool. and I can see how pad changes will be even easier.

TLDR: If you're doing normal driving, it's nice, but not drastic enough to change anything unless you have to anyway. It will definitely help if you are towing.
 

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As a side note, I also got the rear 2021 calipers with the deal. They have the electric parking brake. Is there a way to retrofit those on the 2004 with an aftermarket controller, or something?
 

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So, I just got done doing this to my 2004 Z71 Tahoe. I came across this thread and then found some take offs for pretty cheap from a 2021 Silverado. Initially a tried putting them on with my stock 17s. I could have gotten them to work with some grinding of the caliper or a spacer as many have done. The lip on the side was not a problem, just the radius. But I found some takeoff 18s that fit beautifully. The tires sit a bit wider with the newer rims, but it works good.

As far as effectiveness, I decided to experiment a little. I put on one side first and took it for a short drive. I expected with the bigger brakes on the one side it would pull to that side when braking. What I found was that with light braking, there was no noticeable pull, meaning the braking was pretty close to the same between the old and new rotors. However, when I tries medium and hard braking, it did pull toward the newer brakes. It wasn't a huge pull, but it was noticeable.

Once I got both calipers installed, I tried it again. I do notice a little more effective braking. Is it a lot? no. But it is there. I would say it's a nice upgrade. They certainly look cool. and I can see how pad changes will be even easier.

TLDR: If you're doing normal driving, it's nice, but not drastic enough to change anything unless you have to anyway. It will definitely help if you are towing.
You'll probably see a bigger difference after they break-in. Now that I've been using mine a few months, I feel a significant difference. But then I'm towing 4000-5000 lbs much of the time. They saved me from cutting some lady's car in half a few weeks ago. She pulled out very close to go the opposite direction as me and then realized there was a car coming from that direction too. She came to a complete stop across my lane about 100' feet in front of my rig, including trailer, from 50 mph. She just managed to get out of the way before I got to her. But with my original brakes, no way I would have gotten in reeled in.
 

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Can't hardly find this stuff in OEM - RockAuto only has rear calipers, all the GM Parts stores I've found say they're discontinued or unavailable - Amazon has the pass front, but it's doubled in price, opportunism from someone who bought a bunch, is my guess.

Supply chain issues? Can't get brakes for one of the most popular models of truck out there. Craziness.
 

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Can't hardly find this stuff in OEM - RockAuto only has rear calipers, all the GM Parts stores I've found say they're discontinued or unavailable - Amazon has the pass front, but it's doubled in price, opportunism from someone who bought a bunch, is my guess.

Supply chain issues? Can't get brakes for one of the most popular models of truck out there. Craziness.
Maybe hit the junkyards for some cores---then swap at auto parts store?
 

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Everything is on backorder.

I have two sets of take-offs I won’t be using but they’ll probably cost a fortune to ship.
 

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Can't hardly find this stuff in OEM - RockAuto only has rear calipers, all the GM Parts stores I've found say they're discontinued or unavailable - Amazon has the pass front, but it's doubled in price, opportunism from someone who bought a bunch, is my guess.

Supply chain issues? Can't get brakes for one of the most popular models of truck out there. Craziness.
You can try:
BuyBrakes.com
R1concepts.com
 

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Everything is on backorder.

I have two sets of take-offs I won’t be using but they’ll probably cost a fortune to ship.
A few years ago I had 2 used rotors and calipers shipped from Ca(I think) to me in NJ. He used USPS, and it was around $70. I'd think if it was just calipers it'd be a little cheaper.
 

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I had the '19-'20 test caliper making its rounds on here shipped to me, and I shipped it onwards to someone else. I think it was about $25 or so.

I guess I'm curious about if this '19-'20 upgrade is a significant improvement over the NNBS '07+ upgrade? I mean, my truck doesn't have the Hydroboost, and from reading through one thread about how to add it, it looks a little intimidating to me, so I'm not sure I want to go to that extreme.

Since the '19-'20 calipers are not (very) available new, and I am reluctant to add the Hydroboost, would I really be missing out if I just did the '07+ NNBS upgrade, since it's cheap, available and still (by most accounts) a good bit more effective than my current non-Hydro NBS brakes?
 

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