Electric Suburban / Electric Tahoe / Yukon / Escalade EV

[GTNator]

I think its a matter of when, not if. Post any information on General Motor's plans to electrify! I predict the General will not disappoint when it comes to electrification of large SUVs and trucks. It's too important of a market for them to lag behind.


GM expects Cadillac to be majority, if not all, EVs by 2030

DETROIT — General Motors expects a majority, if not all, of its Cadillac cars and SUVs sold globally to be all-electric vehicles by 2030, according to a company executive.

Cadillac President Steve Carlisle on Thursday said the brand will phase out current models of internal combustion engines based on market demand. He expects an inflection point for electric vehicles for the brand to occur in the mid-2020s.

“We’re going to enter that decade as an internal combustion engine brand. That’s where we are. We’ve never been better positioned as an internal combustion brand,” he said during a media event Thursday in Detroit. “It’s a decade we’re also going to exit as a battery-electric brand. There’s a lot that’s going to be going on for Cadillac in the ’20s.”

Cadillac is expected to release its first all-electric vehicle as early as 2021 in China, followed by the U.S., as part of GM’s plans to debut 20 new all-electric vehicles globally by 2023. The company previewed the crossover in January.

“It’s the end of the ICE age for Cadillac,” Carlisle said referring to internal combustion engines.`

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/12/gm-expects-cadillac-to-be-majority-if-not-all-evs-by-2030.html

 

[GTNator]

GM buys Super Bowl airtime to resurrect an all-electric version of the Hummer, sources say

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/10/gm-...rce=iosappshare|com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail


WOW!! This could be huge. Going after the Tesla Cybertruck!

 

[Tiki]

They are a large holder in Rivian so....

 

[swathdiver]

I can see the American landscape change again. Larger hotel parking lots spaced a hundred miles apart with charging stations all around and playgrounds for kids and fancier restaurants inside the hotels and maybe even car detailers on site since these EV folks never go to gas stations, most of them carry their window squeegeess and cleaners and towels with them.

Hey kids, we're going to Disneyland! Yeah! It's only going to take two weeks to get there! Y..Noo!!!!

Campgrounds are going to have to install chargers for the Tow Vehicles and prices for an overnight stay will triple or more, if you can get into one, they are spaced too far apart and likely won't have enough spaces for a decade or so.

Imagine crossing the Eisenhower tunnel, have to spend the night on one side to charge up, make the run in 8 minutes and then charge up again overnight on the other side! LOL

Such a vehicle would be mechanically simpler at first but boy, swapping out a worn battery pack for a new one is going to cost a small fortune. Life rolls on...

 

[Doubeleive]

not going to happen until battery's will take you as far as gas would and can charge up in 5 minutes, one can dream though...........

 

[cardude2000]

Total fad.

Like the internet’s.

Despite the shocking revelation that EV’s can’t tow a house for 27 hours straight, the number of units on the road doubled between 2017 and 2019.

 

[randeez]

Total fad.

Like the internet’s.

Despite the shocking revelation that EV’s can’t tow a house for 27 hours straight, the number of units on the road doubled between 2017 and 2019.

thats what i do twice a day, so an EV wont work for me, therefor no one should buy one.

 

[89Suburban]

GM buys Super Bowl airtime to resurrect an all-electric version of the Hummer, sources say

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/10/gm-buys-super-bowl-air-time-to-resurrect-an-all-electric-version-of-the-hummer-sources-say.html?__source=iosappshare|com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail


WOW!! This could be huge. Going after the Tesla Cybertruck!

The chick in that video is cute.

 

[swathdiver]

...the number of units on the road doubled between 2017 and 2019.

Uncle Sam still offering tax breaks and or subsidizing them?

 

[cardude2000]

Uncle Sam still offering tax breaks and or subsidizing them?

Not nearly at the level they subsidize the oil and gas industry.

Tesla’s rebates are gone...

 

[randeez]

Uncle Sam still offering tax breaks and or subsidizing them?

up until 200k vehicles are sold, then it goes away iirc

 

[cardude2000]

up until 200k vehicles are sold, then it goes away iirc

Right. Tesla’s are gone at this point.

****Trigger warning****

...and they have a market cap 2x that of GM

 

[GTNator]

I get some people still have range anxiety, but I think that’s more of a 2010 news story. Back then some electric cars got only 80 miles range per charge. Now 300 mile range is not unusual and the the Tesla Cybertruck will top out at 500 mile range. It’s just a matter of time, and not as long as some think, before range can be increased to 1000 miles and higher.


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[swathdiver]

I get some people still have range anxiety, but I think that’s more of a 2010 news story. Back then some electric cars got only 80 miles range per charge. Now 300 mile range is not unusual and the the Tesla Cybertruck will top out at 500 mile range. It’s just a matter of time, and not as long as some think, before range can be increased to 1000 miles and higher.

If the price is right, I could see them as a good little commuter car (not me though!), going back and forth to work depending on the type and length of the commute. An EV would not be ideal to evacuate a coming natural disaster nor its aftermath without power.

Swapping out battery packs is the way to go. Pull in to an old gas station, the tech's remove your old battery cell and pop in a new one while you get a cup of over-priced coffee much like the days of the stage lines when the team of horses was exchanged while the passengers stretched their legs and grabbed a bite to eat.

 

[fozzi58]

There's no reason why most people can't use an EV as a daily driver. My wife does 2 miles round trip to work. Her furthest commute is to our shore house about an hour away...even in summer traffic...1:30. There's no need for her to be in an Enclave and me in a Burb. An EV is fine. An EV for me is fine too really.

But those of you whom are skeptics, don't fret - gasoline will always be available. The naysayers love to claim that gas will go away 100% which is and will never be true, and that isn't included in the media's and politicians rhetoric...which leads to part of the problem and why it gets lost on a skeptical (and justly so) public. The idea is to shift the majority of commuters and transport machines(buses/trucks) that do short haul to electric/battery...and move toward solar so the power plants aren't burning coal to generate electricity.

Gasoline/Diesel will always be made available. Long haul trucking will need it. Locomotives will still need it. Millions of classic cars, motorcycles, etc will need it. Those of us that use a forum like this, are what the automotive industry considers "enthusiasts". 90% of us are not the targets of electric vehicles. Think of how many people use a car and buy it cause "its cheap" or the color, or "I like the way the headlights look". Those are the target audience for EV daily drivers. /rant

 

[swathdiver]

There's no reason why most people can't use an EV as a daily driver. My wife does 2 miles round trip to work. Her furthest commute is to our shore house about an hour away...even in summer traffic...1:30. There's no need for her to be in an Enclave and me in a Burb. An EV is fine. An EV for me is fine too really.

But those of you whom are skeptics, don't fret - gasoline will always be available. The naysayers love to claim that gas will go away 100% which is and will never be true, and that isn't included in the media's and politicians rhetoric...which leads to part of the problem and why it gets lost on a skeptical (and justly so) public. The idea is to shift the majority of commuters and transport machines(buses/trucks) that do short haul to electric/battery...and move toward solar so the power plants aren't burning coal to generate electricity.

Gasoline/Diesel will always be made available. Long haul trucking will need it. Locomotives will still need it. Millions of classic cars, motorcycles, etc will need it. Those of us that use a forum like this, are what the automotive industry considers "enthusiasts". 90% of us are not the targets of electric vehicles. Think of how many people use a car and buy it cause "its cheap" or the color, or "I like the way the headlights look". Those are the target audience for EV daily drivers. /rant

The Enclave and Suburban are safer. Every member of my family has been seriously injured from accidents with compact cars, including me. I happily pay the "penalty" in higher fuel costs to sit up high and have greater situational awareness and longer reaction times.

 

[cardude2000]

The Enclave and Suburban are safer. Every member of my family has been seriously injured from accidents with compact cars, including me. I happily pay the "penalty" in higher fuel costs to sit up high and have greater situational awareness and longer reaction times.

You know we’re talking about an electic humvee right?

 

[swathdiver]

You know we’re talking about an electic humvee right?

You might be, not Fozzi and me.

 

[GTNator]

If the price is right, I could see them as a good little commuter car (not me though!), going back and forth to work depending on the type and length of the commute. An EV would not be ideal to evacuate a coming natural disaster nor its aftermath without power.

Swapping out battery packs is the way to go. Pull in to an old gas station, the tech's remove your old battery cell and pop in a new one while you get a cup of over-priced coffee much like the days of the stage lines when the team of horses was exchanged while the passengers stretched their legs and grabbed a bite to eat.

Let me ask you, how much range would an electric Suburban need before you would be satisfied?

Remember with electric vehicles you always leave home on a “full tank” cause your gas station is your garage. And for road trips, do you drive 6+ hours straight without stopping to take a break? I don’t. That’s why a 400-500 mile range EV would be fine with me. But the 1000 mile range is coming too. Is that when you’d be satisfied?


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[randeez]

could just tow a generator