2001 tahoe key fob part number question

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so why not just put in a aftermarket keyless entry or alarm and be done with it?, that would solve all the problem, as for the freq of the remote no one is going to be running around with a freq counter checking cars for incorrect remotes nobody would ever know the difference and slim to none chance of it ever affecting anything since the code is revolving. I will note I have never seen a gm alarm/keyless entry fob ever stop a (gmt800) truck from starting if the key is used. the only thing that would stop it is if the ignition lock was bad (hall-sensor or the associated passlock module), the key overrides anything the fob could do once the key is on, you could arm the alarm with the fob all day long, smash with a hammer, then just stick the key in and start the truck and drive away, the door lock is mechanical the key will open it always, the ignition is mechanical the key will always turn it, the only thing stopping it from starting is the hall sensor or passlock module (key overrides the fob)
 

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Aren't we talking about two different things here? You can still unlock the vehicle with the key if the remote dies after you set it. You can still drive it with the key. If the vehicle doesn't start that is the passlock, and not the same thing as the remote lock/unlock.
 
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Well yeah I want another key for both for unlocking the car, but mainly so I can start the car without having problems with the pass lock system, since if my one and only key fob would stop working, I'm screwed , asked a few companies that have boxes to bypass the pass lock system, but since I have a non USA sold car, with different alarm frequencies etc, they can't say for sure if it will work, so right now I'm at the point that i don't care about getting another fob, all i want is to kill that darn passlock system
 

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Well yeah I want another key for both for unlocking the car, but mainly so I can start the car without having problems with the pass lock system, since if my one and only key fob would stop working, I'm screwed , asked a few companies that have boxes to bypass the pass lock system, but since I have a non USA sold car, with different alarm frequencies etc, they can't say for sure if it will work, so right now I'm at the point that i don't care about getting another fob, all i want is to kill that darn passlock system
just get a alarm with keyless entry put in, it bypasses the passlock system, then you just take that one oem fob and stick it in a drawer, you wont need it anymore.
 
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Hmm, might be a dumb question but, how does a new alarm bypass the immobilizer/passlock system, since it's so"built into" the car it can't just be deactivated, the passlock components are still there, plus the system in the car's computer box, or do I need some form of alarm with it's own immobilizer that replaces the one in passlock?
 

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Hmm, might be a dumb question but, how does a new alarm bypass the immobilizer/passlock system, since it's so"built into" the car it can't just be deactivated, the passlock components are still there, plus the system in the car's computer box, or do I need some form of alarm with it's own immobilizer that replaces the one in passlock?
a aftermarket alarm would be installed after the passlock system, almost all of the alarms incorporate a starter-kill of there own, plus you can add other sensors like a glass sensor so if someone breaks a window the alarm will go off, the factory system wont trigger unless a door is opened, thieves know this so they just break the window and crawl in and do whatever they want as long as they don't open the door the alarm will never go off.
 
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Aha ok, well I live in a small town, and park in a garage sp I'm not that worried about having it stolen or damaged, if I get an alarm it's only in order to kill the passlock system, so for that reason I don't see any point in spending alot on a really good alarm system:)
 

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Aha ok, well I live in a small town, and park in a garage sp I'm not that worried about having it stolen or damaged, if I get an alarm it's only in order to kill the passlock system, so for that reason I don't see any point in spending alot on a really good alarm system:)
well that should work anyway, the remotes operate the same way as the oem they just use the alarm module instead of the factory system and it will give a little added security over the factory system.
 
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Great thanks for the help, ill order one then, and hope I can find a local company that can install it for me, my first experience with passlock, and I hate it so much already haha
 

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wahouuuu i missed some answers lol

Daol, can you give your opinion if you buy an alarm system to bypass the Passlock?

The other day, I see a sales announcement for a Tahoe with the Passlock neutralized. I contact the seller to ask him the question but he told me that he bought it like that in Italy. A little disappointed but at least we know that it is possible to neutralize or bypass.
 
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Yeah, first I have to look up if it works with any alarm, or if it have to be the same frequency as it is in my German car, in order to bypass the passlock system, so the box/computer in the car sont get confused over different frequencies or something, would suck if I got it installed, and played 100s of dollars for it, and it didn't work,Plus I have to find a company to install it, I'm guessing the installation will be expensive, since I don't have any wiring diagrams etc for the car
 

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Been looking on ebay, none with the same part number, so

yeah, looks like I have to get it on ebay, but they all have a part number ending with 3 or something else, mine end with an 8, plus the frequency thing, so I would have to buy one with the wrong part number, and just hope its the correct frequency:/
That's what I am going to do.
 

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Yeah, first I have to look up if it works with any alarm, or if it have to be the same frequency as it is in my German car, in order to bypass the passlock system, so the box/computer in the car sont get confused over different frequencies or something, would suck if I got it installed, and played 100s of dollars for it, and it didn't work,Plus I have to find a company to install it, I'm guessing the installation will be expensive, since I don't have any wiring diagrams etc for the car


Hey guys, did you end up installing a aftermarket alarm system ?
I'm from Germany and also own a Tahoe from Italy and am running into the same problem...
I have a 2003 Tahoe and can unlock/lock the car with the physical key and have no problem starting it, but I really want some spare key fobs. I have one original key fob left.
 

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Hey guys, did you end up installing a aftermarket alarm system ?
I'm from Germany and also own a Tahoe from Italy and am running into the same problem...
I have a 2003 Tahoe and can unlock/lock the car with the physical key and have no problem starting it, but I really want some spare key fobs. I have one original key fob left.

Just a little heads up on this problem.
To get around the immobilizer problem, we have done several reprogram procedures where we give the pcm/bcm a different Vin from a car that was ment for the Us market.
Then it will work forever and never remember it once had an immobilizer option.
There is different programs depending if you have rear fog light or not...
And you have to have access to Gm and a tech2 computer at least.
 

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Just a little heads up on this problem.
To get around the immobilizer problem, we have done several reprogram procedures where we give the pcm/bcm a different Vin from a car that was ment for the Us market.
Then it will work forever and never remember it once had an immobilizer option.
There is different programs depending if you have rear fog light or not...
And you have to have access to Gm and a tech2 computer at least.

Where are you based at ?
I finally found the right key fob with the European frequency, but I can't enter the programming mode using the known procedures, I maybe need to get them programmed at the dealership, but maybe the reprograming you described comes in cheaper than the programming of the one fob.
If the BCM acts like a US BCM I could finally enable the different locking/unlocking feedbacks (horn and exterior lights flashing).
 

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Hello everyone,
I see that this topic on our European remote control are still topical lol I do not know if we will overcome, but it is always stressful to think that we can have our truck completely immobilized because of this piece of plastic
 

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I will note I have never seen a gm alarm/keyless entry fob ever stop a (gmt800) truck from starting if the key is used.
That's a "specialty" of an official EU market GMT800 Tahoe: the original PassLock system is not certified or secure enough, so GM had to come up with a solution: the engine will only start if you press unlock on the keyfob and crank it within a couple seconds. If the keyfob battery is dead you can't start it. If you break the keyfob you're screwed since no one makes these keyfobs anymore. These Tahoes also don't honk when you double-press lock on the remote, that feature is disabled in the BCM. The headlight switch unit also has a button for a rear foglight.

People have been able to remove this by putting in a BCM from a non-EU Tahoe with the same options, but I don't know the details since I don't own or know anyone with that generation Tahoe.

If you have a US/CAN/MEX imported Tahoe they always have a separate exemption (at least in Germany) that allows them to keep the original PassLock system. It says something along the lines that it is similar in effect to a EU-spec anti-theft system.
 
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