Transmission Fluid/Filter

[diezelraccoon]

Currently replacing the rear main seal on my 2003 Chevy Tahoe 2wd with the 5.3. Decided while I am at it just going to change out the transmission fluid and filter.

I am a little conflicted on a couple things. I want to stick with OEM filter and fluid but I am seeing different types of OEM filters. One that says OEM and another that says OEM Gold. What is the difference between the two and what would you recommend?

The other is how many quarts of fluid does my transmission hold? I see one that says a little over 7 quarts and another that says 12.

 

[SilverSport]

the bar keeps changing but in the past the AC Delco Gold or Professional usually meant "Made by Someone Else" but meets or exceeds OEM quality...whereas OEM usually meant it was the most current version of the product that was used when your vehicle was made...

when I firsts started seeing AC Delco products listed as Professional or Gold I would have thought it was the best but after trying I found some products weren't as quality as the OEM AC Delco products...I'd stick with the OEMs unless you read enough members who have already "blazed that trail" come up with a better alternative...

Good luck with your Tahoe

Bill

 

[OR VietVet]

What @SilverSport said about the filter. Every refill of fluid should be with OE fluid and it will always be top off as needed, especially transmission fluid. When you do a transmission service, you are not draining all the transmission fluid. @NickTransmissions can likely tell you what your capacity refill will be but IMO, 12 sounds way too much and I would start out with 4 quarts and start the engine and as it warms up keep checking the fluid level. As it warms up, switch the gears from park to reverse and drive a few times as you "fill as needed". You do not want to overfill. When you see it is at full on the dipstick, road test and then check again. I always do 2 road tests before my OCD self is happy.

When you say you "see one that says a little over 7 quarts and another that says 12 quarts", what or where are you talking about?

 

[NickTransmissions]

Currently replacing the rear main seal on my 2003 Chevy Tahoe 2wd with the 5.3. Decided while I am at it just going to change out the transmission fluid and filter.

I am a little conflicted on a couple things. I want to stick with OEM filter and fluid but I am seeing different types of OEM filters. One that says OEM and another that says OEM Gold. What is the difference between the two and what would you recommend?

The other is how many quarts of fluid does my transmission hold? I see one that says a little over 7 quarts and another that says 12.

Where are you seeing these filter designations? Are they on GMPartsDirect.com or an aftermarket website?

5.5-6 quarts in the pan (factory deep pan) and another 7 quarts or so in the TC and cooler/cooler lines. Total system, when dry, will take 12-13 quarts.

 

[OR VietVet]

@NickTransmissions, is there an absolute for what transmission will have the shallow pan and what will have the deep pan?

 

[NickTransmissions]

@NickTransmissions, is there an absolute for what transmission will have the shallow pan and what will have the deep pan?

Shallow pan is appx .5-.7 quarts less than the deep pan; no absolutes...The above are general guidelines but as long as whomever's doing the service follows proper procedure, all will be good.

 

[OR VietVet]

Shallow pan is appx .5-.7 quarts less than the deep pan; no absolutes...The above are general guidelines but as long as whomever's doing the service follows proper procedure, all will be good.

Doesn't the deep pan always have a dimple area in the bottom of it?

 

[strutaeng]

Doesn't the deep pan always have a dimple area in the bottom of it?

It's more like a "step" on the bottom of the pan.

The deep pan was introduced in like 1997 IIRC. As far as I know, all GMT800s will have the deep pan. The matching oil filter does have 4 feet or dimples where it sits on the pan. Confirm you have the correct filter. The filter and oil pan must match.

If you try installing the shallow pan filter on the deep pan, there's a chance the filter can fall off the plastic tube.

If you try installing the deep pan filter on the shallow pan, the filter will bottom out before the pan hits the rails. If you force it, you'll break it.

 

[NickTransmissions]

Doesn't the deep pan always have a dimple area in the bottom of it?

No dimples on any 700R4 or 4L60E pans - perhaps you're thinking of TH400 pans...Those had three dimples (early models) then two dimples (later models).

The 4L60E pans changed in 2004 when they integrated the dipstick stop shelf into the pan's design...So you will see a step in the area of the dipstick tube...This step replaces the separate stamped sheet metal style dipstick stop that went into all 4L60E deep pan designs from 1996+.

 

[diezelraccoon]

the bar keeps changing but in the past the AC Delco Gold or Professional usually meant "Made by Someone Else" but meets or exceeds OEM quality...whereas OEM usually meant it was the most current version of the product that was used when your vehicle was made...

when I firsts started seeing AC Delco products listed as Professional or Gold I would have thought it was the best but after trying I found some products weren't as quality as the OEM AC Delco products...I'd stick with the OEMs unless you read enough members who have already "blazed that trail" come up with a better alternative...

Good luck with your Tahoe

Bill

So another issue I’m facing is finding the correct transmission filter. From what I understand I have the deep pan but the filter I pulled out is plastic on bottom and the new one is different shape and metal on the bottom. The one I took out looks like this one. Assuming this is the one I need?

Amazon.com

 

[15burban]

I cant help with what one you need but personally I'd stay away from Amazon and ebay for parts that need to be oem. Way too many people out there making cheap knockoffs and passing them off as the real thing.

 

[viven44]

Stick to OEM... In my experience with other vehicles, the aftermarket takes liberty on filter mesh size a bit too much... You don't want a mesh too fine (restrictive and may not be able to keep up with pump demand) and a mesh too large (can allow large particulates).

 

[NickTransmissions]

So another issue I’m facing is finding the correct transmission filter. From what I understand I have the deep pan but the filter I pulled out is plastic on bottom and the new one is different shape and metal on the bottom. The one I took out looks like this one. Assuming this is the one I need?

Amazon.com

The Amazon link you posted shows the correct filter for your application assuming you have a factory deep pan in a V8 engine application.

The filter you described sounds like the shallow pan filter but post a picture of it and we can confirm / deny

 

[diezelraccoon]

The Amazon link you posted shows the correct filter for your application assuming you have a factory deep pan in a V8 engine application.

The filter you described sounds like the shallow pan filter but post a picture of it and we can confirm / deny

Here’s the pan.

 

[OR VietVet]

Here’s the pan.

That is the deep pan. Instead of completely smooth on the bottom, it has the step in it.

 

[NickTransmissions]

Here’s the pan.

I was actually looking for a picture of the filter that's plastic on one side and metal on the other per your description but regardless, buy the Amazon filter and you should be good.

 

[diezelraccoon]

I was actually looking for a picture of the filter that's plastic on one side and metal on the other per your description but regardless, buy the Amazon filter and you should be good.

This is the one I bought but it’s nothing like the one that I took out. The one I took out looks like the one in the link I gave you which is plastic on both sides and thicker.

 

[NickTransmissions]

This is the one I bought but it’s nothing like the one that I took out. The one I took out looks like the one in the link I gave you which is plastic on both sides and thicker.

As I suspected, you were describing a shallow-pan filter which was used from 1993-1997...All 1998+ 4L60Es in V8 engine truck/SUV applications took the deep pan and deep pan filter, like the one in the Amazon link.

 

[diezelraccoon]

I was actually looking for a picture of the filter that's plastic on one side and metal on the other per your description but regardless, buy the Amazon filter and you should be good.

This is the one I bought but it’s nothing like the one that I took out. The one I took out looks like the one in the link I gave you which is plastic on both sides and thicker

As I suspected, you were describing a shallow-pan filter which was used from 1993-1997...All 1998+ 4L60Es in V8 engine truck/SUV applications took the deep pan and deep pan filter, like the one in the Amazon link.

Thanks, I appreciate the help