Push to start button install

[Blackie]

ok I have an Excalibur alarm how would my install differ?



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If @shreksbrother can post a copy of the install manual of the push button kit he bought and you can give me the model number of your Escaliber alarm I can help you out.

 

[4myfreedom]

If @shreksbrother can post a copy of the install manual of the unit he bought and you can give me the model number of your Escaliber alarm I can help you out.

AL 1670B


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[shreksbrother]

Here's the wiring diagrams. Hopefully that helps.


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[shreksbrother]

@Blackie - Did you have any trouble with your wipers when installing your system? Mine simply don't work. If I put the key in and turn it, they work fine. There must be a separate wire that energizes with the ignition turned that I need to include in my wiring. Everything else seems to be working fine.


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[shreksbrother]

I found the answer to my issue... There is a brown wire in the ignition wiring that is a 'second accessory' wire. This needs +12v, as well. Interesting that this was not in the wiring I found, but I'm guessing it's because most remote start systems still require the key to be turned on.


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[Blackie]

AL 1670B


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According to your install manual, this is the wire you would interface the push to start button kit I used to integrate it into your existing Excaliber alarm system:

"ORANGE WIRE - STARTER INTERRUPT (-) OUTPUT & RELAY
This provides 500mA negative ground while the alarm is armed for starter kill and/or during
remote start for anti-grind operation. The operation is selectable with installer feature #16.
CONNECTION: This wire is connected to the orange input wire on the optional start interrupt relay
socket. Then, locate the vehicle’s (+) starter wire at the ignition switch & cut it. Connect the starter
interrupt relay’s RED wire to the ignition switch side of the cut starter wire. Connect the starter
interrupt relay’s WHITE wire to the starter side of the cut starter wire."

You would still have to do the passlock bypass and the shift interlock bypass mentioned in my first post.

 

[Blackie]

@Blackie - Did you have any trouble with your wipers when installing your system? Mine simply don't work. If I put the key in and turn it, they work fine. There must be a separate wire that energizes with the ignition turned that I need to include in my wiring. Everything else seems to be working fine.


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I found the answer to my issue... There is a brown wire in the ignition wiring that is a 'second accessory' wire. This needs +12v, as well. Interesting that this was not in the wiring I found, but I'm guessing it's because most remote start systems still require the key to be turned on.


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Did you wire up a relay and tap off the ACC output of your push to start kit to energize the second ACC (brown) wire in your truck?

 

[shreksbrother]

Did you wire up a relay and tap off the ACC output of your push to start kit to energize the second ACC (brown) wire in your truck?

That's exactly what I did.

My next challenge is that the dome lights no longer come on when I unlock the doors or open a door.


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[Blackie]

That's exactly what I did.

My next challenge is that the dome lights no longer come on when I unlock the doors or open a door.


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If your bypass module is connected to the data wire at your OBD connector, the dome light on/off should be controlled by the bypass. I'd check there first.

 

[shreksbrother]

If your bypass module is connected to the data wire at your OBD connector, the dome light on/off should be controlled by the bypass. I'd check there first.

Well you're right that there is a separate control for the dome light. Unfortunately, after a call to the Fortin tech support, they do not support this feature. How ridiculous. The Easyguard does not have a wire for dome light supervision, so I'm not sure what to do at this point.

So the next challenge... How to re-enable the dome light :-(

 

[shreksbrother]

Well you're right that there is a separate control for the dome light. Unfortunately, after a call to the Fortin tech support, they do not support this feature. How ridiculous. The Easyguard does not have a wire for dome light supervision, so I'm not sure what to do at this point.

So the next challenge... How to re-enable the dome light :-(

Step one to this process?

Make sure the dome disable is not pressed in on the headlight switch.

 

[Blackie]

ROFL.....at least it was an easy fix!

 

[OneSik805Hoe]

I spent:

DEI 5305v alarm/remote start unit-$118 ebay
DEI DBALL2 bypass module-$37 ebay
DEI 530t window modules (2) $60 ebay
DEI VSM300 smart start module-$108 ebay
Smart start activation-$15 ebay
DEI 2102T passive keyless system-$20 amazon
Push to start kit-$20 ebay
Wire, relays and connectors-$30

Total-$408 Total parts

Ey bro, about the DBALL2 bypass module. You got it for $37? Which one did you specifically get? Im coming across some that are flashed for specific vehicles! Thanks in advance for the info.

 

[Djayspoon86]

So I installed a DEI 5705v Alarm/Remote Start a year ago along with the DEI DBALL2(to bypass the Passlock 2 system), 2 DEI 530T window modules, and the DEI VSM300(to lock/unlock and remote start from my phone). Here’s a great tutorial (with pics) for alarm/RS installation in our trucks:

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=133000

2 weeks ago I installed the DEI 2102T PKE system and that’s what allows me to walk up to the truck without having to push any buttons and have it unlock the doors. Install was simply plugging the 2102T into my alarm/RS with the provided D2D cable. It took longer to run the two antenna’s to the pillar between the doors than anything else.

https://www.amazon.com/DEI-Passive-Automotive-Automatic-unlocking/dp/B0096DLZLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517860077&sr=8-1&keywords=2102t

This past weekend I installed the push to start button. The unit I purchased integrates into an aftermarket alarm system which kills the power to the push button while the alarm is armed. When the alarm is disarmed, the button gets power. The price of this kit was only $20 but there are a few steps necessary to make everything work. First, you have to permanently bypass your Passlock 2 system in order for the push button to work since you will not be using the key in the cylinder. It is very easy to do if you follow this tutorial:

https://kingbain.com/how-to-permanently-disable-gm-passlock-system/

You also have to bypass the shifter interlock (also since you will no longer put the key in the cylinder). I didn’t get a very good picture of the shift interlock but in the picture you will see the red circle. Just to the left of that there is a tab you push down and that cable pulls out from where it is plugged in. This bypasses the shift interlock so you can shift gears without the key installed:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w5ZXOI4jXsTzyT0_e-FNcWBfqkJYzT5I/view?usp=sharing

At that point you just have to install the push to start button. The unit comes with 6 heavy gauge wires that need to be hooked up to the heavy gauge wires in your ignition harness. You need to wire up a relay to make the 1 Accessory wire in to 2 outputs since our trucks have 2 Accessory wires in them. You then connect 4 wires to your aftermarket alarm (as shown in the install instructions). Then plug the push start connector into the module and mount it. This is the unit I purchased:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Auto-One-Push-Ignition-System-Engine-Push-Start-Stop-Button-Remote-Starter/132224242628?hash=item1ec92dd3c4:g:eIgAAOSwnK9ZPlu4


It may sound like a lot but if you’ve installed stereo’s or alarm/remote starts in the past it really is just following the links/tutorials I posted above. Any questions feel free to ask.

How Do you make 1 Accessory into 2 using a relay???

 

[Blackie]

Does your alarm only have 1 Accessory output? What alarm are you using?

 

[Bombsquad85]

So I installed a DEI 5705v Alarm/Remote Start a year ago along with the DEI DBALL2(to bypass the Passlock 2 system), 2 DEI 530T window modules, and the DEI VSM300(to lock/unlock and remote start from my phone). Here’s a great tutorial (with pics) for alarm/RS installation in our trucks:

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=133000

2 weeks ago I installed the DEI 2102T PKE system and that’s what allows me to walk up to the truck without having to push any buttons and have it unlock the doors. Install was simply plugging the 2102T into my alarm/RS with the provided D2D cable. It took longer to run the two antenna’s to the pillar between the doors than anything else.

https://www.amazon.com/DEI-Passive-Automotive-Automatic-unlocking/dp/B0096DLZLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517860077&sr=8-1&keywords=2102t

This past weekend I installed the push to start button. The unit I purchased integrates into an aftermarket alarm system which kills the power to the push button while the alarm is armed. When the alarm is disarmed, the button gets power. The price of this kit was only $20 but there are a few steps necessary to make everything work. First, you have to permanently bypass your Passlock 2 system in order for the push button to work since you will not be using the key in the cylinder. It is very easy to do if you follow this tutorial:

https://kingbain.com/how-to-permanently-disable-gm-passlock-system/

You also have to bypass the shifter interlock (also since you will no longer put the key in the cylinder). I didn’t get a very good picture of the shift interlock but in the picture you will see the red circle. Just to the left of that there is a tab you push down and that cable pulls out from where it is plugged in. This bypasses the shift interlock so you can shift gears without the key installed:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w5ZXOI4jXsTzyT0_e-FNcWBfqkJYzT5I/view?usp=sharing

At that point you just have to install the push to start button. The unit comes with 6 heavy gauge wires that need to be hooked up to the heavy gauge wires in your ignition harness. You need to wire up a relay to make the 1 Accessory wire in to 2 outputs since our trucks have 2 Accessory wires in them. You then connect 4 wires to your aftermarket alarm (as shown in the install instructions). Then plug the push start connector into the module and mount it. This is the unit I purchased:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Auto-One-Push-Ignition-System-Engine-Push-Start-Stop-Button-Remote-Starter/132224242628?hash=item1ec92dd3c4:g:eIgAAOSwnK9ZPlu4


It may sound like a lot but if you’ve installed stereo’s or alarm/remote starts in the past it really is just following the links/tutorials I posted above. Any questions feel free to ask.

Your Ebay link for the push button is dead.

 

[Bombsquad85]

To piggy-back off of your cool project, I just completed installing passive key/push button/remote start in my Yukon.

Since I did not have an existing alarm system, my deployment consisted of three parts:

The passive key/remote start/push button kit:
http://a.co/csjbOor
As with any other kit, the wiring is a bit complex, but it was made easier by my next purchase...

The brains of the operation:
http://a.co/amVWCIi
I understand this is not 100% necessary, but it really made wiring everything up a snap. Unfortunately, I did not realize that it had to be programmed, which led me to my third and final purchase of the project...

The programmer:
http://a.co/dlrcx4B
This little hockey puck allowed me to program the brain, and made life incredibly easy. It defeats Passlock, initiates the lock/unlock process, and a few other features I did not use.

The Fortin device also had an awesome wiring diagram that makes it Barney simple to do all of this magic.

Everything cost me about $240. I plan to sell the programmer since I'll likely never again use it, so hopefully that'll put my cost down to about $200.

As mentioned by the OP, you do have to disable the ignition shift interlock. It took me longer to separate the halves of the surround than to defeat the interlock.

Now my key fob stays in my pocket, I walk up to the Yukon, it unlocks. I get in, press the start button and away I go. I walk away and it locks... Very spiffy.

Next on my list is to buy a pair of rear door handles to replace the front ones (to eliminate the key holes) and to get my trunk button keyed to the Yukon for emergency entry. It is also worth noting that the starter kit I bought has this keypad that goes on the inside of the windshield. You can then type in a code (that you set) to gain access if the fob battery dies. Automagically the keypad works through the glass... No clue how that happens.

After that (and once this has proven itself for a few months) I will design and 3D print something to cover over the ignition switch... That way I do not need to actually remove it but can retain it in case of failure of this sstem.

I'm very pleased with the setup. Worthwhile and nearly invisible setup except for its convenience! Plus the remote start feature will be priceless as my company is relocating me to Michigan in a few weeks!

Does it come with the wiring to make it easy.

Also does it change anything if ny truck already has a remote started?

Basically I want to have the passive jey and push button start.

It would be awesome to keep my keys in my pocket like I do with my wifes car.

 

[Blackie]

Your Ebay link for the push button is dead.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/192448664610

 

[Bombsquad85]

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/192448664610

Thanks man!

 

[Blackie]

Does it come with the wiring to make it easy.

Also does it change anything if ny truck already has a remote started?

Basically I want to have the passive jey and push button start.

It would be awesome to keep my keys in my pocket like I do with my wifes car.

Shreksbrothers kit is if you don't already have an alarm system. It is an alarm, remote start, push button start system.

My install was because I already had an alarm/remote start on my truck. My setup does exactly what you said you want (alarm, remote start, push button start, passive key) and adds smartphone app functionality for alarm and remote start functions from my phone.