Oil analysis 0-20 Wolf after 10,000 km or 6,250 miles

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My approach is to just ignore the posts I don't need, and move on. I don't let it bother me. One doesn't need to accept every "invitation." YMMV
While this is true... I hardly ever visit a form/subforum of a vehicle/MY I don't own. I've never really looked at ANY threads pre 2021 on here.... Without owning one, my perspective and experiences just don't logically transfer to that era unless we're talking about very generic auto related things that would apply to most any vehicle....
 

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Hello everyone. I'm going to post another post. I know that many people on forums recommend changing the oil more often. I got curious, so I asked the service to take a sample of the oil during the last maintenance and send it for analysis. I'm sharing the results. I translated the image using a resource because the analysis itself is in Russian, and if there are any unclear translations, please ask and we'll try to understand them.
Does the company that did this analysis have a fleet average in their database for that engine?

Those viscosity numbers are terrible. I looked up your oil and you did not lose much over it's life, so the quality of the oil is good but the weight is no good for durability. This is why GM recommends a switch to 0W40. Your Wolf 0W40 has a viscosity rating of 80.1 versus 44.6 or 37.2 when your oil was ready for replacement.

 
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Does the company that did this analysis have a fleet average in their database for that engine?

Those viscosity numbers are terrible. I looked up your oil and you did not lose much over it's life, so the quality of the oil is good but the weight is no good for durability. This is why GM recommends a switch to 0W40. Your Wolf 0W40 has a viscosity rating of 80.1 versus 44.6 or 37.2 when your oil was ready for replacement.


It is not very clear why I need a viscosity of 0-40? If the engine runs perfectly on a viscosity of 0-20.
 
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I thought there were sub forums for the different generations of trucks. I don't need someone who doesn't even own a 2021 -2025+, telling me how great their GMT 800 was or other useless comparisons. They can stay on their sub forum. I appreciate any constructive information but the "I would never spend that much money" or "my GMT 800 is better" doesn't help anyone. I appreciate they love their truck and hate the newer platforms and technology but I don't need to have that on this forum. I have learned a lot from others on this forum, the 2021 -2025+ but I never look in the other sub forums as I don't have those generations of trucks anymore.
Here, everything is very simple. Owners of old cars really want to amuse their vanity, and once again emphasize that they have an old car, not because they can't buy a new one, but because it is very reliable. But we know that this is not so. And such things should be treated indulgently:) I recently took a ride in a Tahoe 900... oh... how much progress has come))
 

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I thought there were sub forums for the different generations of trucks. I don't need someone who doesn't even own a 2021 -2025+, telling me how great their GMT 800 was or other useless comparisons. They can stay on their sub forum. I appreciate any constructive information but the "I would never spend that much money" or "my GMT 800 is better" doesn't help anyone. I appreciate they love their truck and hate the newer platforms and technology but I don't need to have that on this forum. I have learned a lot from others on this forum, the 2021 -2025+ but I never look in the other sub forums as I don't have those generations of trucks anymore.
That is your opinion, so stick with it.

For me, I've learned a ton from the folks here who own older (and newer) model generations than what I own, and if I simply ignored them because they had a different truck generation that I have, I would have missed all of that new learning. In fact, I've learned the most from folks here who actually own truck model generations that are different from mine.

There is a ton of built-in commonality between these generations of trucks, as well as commonality in maintenance and troubleshooting and rebuilding and modification processes and procedures.

And, this is new learning for me, on top of all of what I learned myself and from others over my 57+ years of wrenching.
 

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It is not very clear why I need a viscosity of 0-40? If the engine runs perfectly on a viscosity of 0-20.
It's not going to last on 0W20. The bearing clearances between the old LS engines and the LT engines is the same as far as I can tell. My old, wore out, 5W30 oil has more viscosity in it than yours does new. My engine is humming along at 200K plus miles with excellent oil sample reports.

The only reason GM switched the LT engines over to 0W20 was to squeeze every last mile of fuel economy out of the engine at the expense of durability.
 

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That is your opinion, so stick with it.

For me, I've learned a ton from the folks here who own older (and newer) model generations than what I own, and if I simply ignored them because they had a different truck generation that I have, I would have missed all of that new learning. In fact, I've learned the most from folks here who actually own truck model generations that are different from mine.

There is a ton of built-in commonality between these generations of trucks, as well as commonality in maintenance and troubleshooting and rebuilding and modification processes and procedures.

And, this is new learning for me, on top of all of what I learned myself and from others over my 57+ years of wrenching.
Exactly. I have gathered sooo much valuable info from other members, often on topics I was not even looking for. Jerry455 sounds a little agitated that someone dares to post something about a vehicle that is not specific to this sub topic. He might have a better day if he just moves along and skips posts that dont have information he is interested in.
 
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Here, everything is very simple. Owners of old cars really want to amuse their vanity, and once again emphasize that they have an old car, not because they can't buy a new one, but because it is very reliable. But we know that this is not so. And such things should be treated indulgently:) I recently took a ride in a Tahoe 900... oh... how much progress has come))
And some of use own more than one vehicle, with vehicles spanning decades. At one point I owned vehicles that spanned 1971 to 2020. And not long ago I owned A gen 2, 2 gen 3's, and a 5th. As a result, some of us are all over these forums. :)
 

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I am not agitated, I am just surprised that so many people who don't own this generation truck comment so much on this sub forum. I have not seen that when I used to be on Colorado/Canyon forum. Each generation of truck had their own forum and people who had their respective generation truck commented on their forum, not on the others.
 
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It's not going to last on 0W20. The bearing clearances between the old LS engines and the LT engines is the same as far as I can tell. My old, wore out, 5W30 oil has more viscosity in it than yours does new. My engine is humming along at 200K plus miles with excellent oil sample reports.

The only reason GM switched the LT engines over to 0W20 was to squeeze every last mile of fuel economy out of the engine at the expense of durability.
You write unsubstantiated nonsense. 4th generation engines drive well for many hundreds of thousands of miles on 0-20 oil
 

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Hello everyone. I'm going to post another post. I know that many people on forums recommend changing the oil more often. I got curious, so I asked the service to take a sample of the oil during the last maintenance and send it for analysis. I'm sharing the results. I translated the image using a resource because the analysis itself is in Russian, and if there are any unclear translations, please ask and we'll try to understand them.
I change my oil every 3,000 miles. With synthetic oil.
 

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I change my oil once a year....whether it needs it or not !
 

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I am not agitated, I am just surprised that so many people who don't own this generation truck comment so much on this sub forum. I have not seen that when I used to be on Colorado/Canyon forum. Each generation of truck had their own forum and people who had their respective generation truck commented on their forum, not on the others.
That is why this Forum is so much different, and BETTER, than most other Forums. Folks here recognize the advantages of not being pigeonholed into only one box with blinders on. The act of sharing and learning new information makes us all more informed and better able to care for our trucks, regardless of the model year and style generation. It also builds a much broader Community for all members and fosters genuine discussion and collaboration.
 

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What exactly caused you bewilderment in my posts?
Industry wide it’s well known 20weight is for mpg, not longevity. You defend 20 like it’s the holy grail. I almost forgot, your long oil change cycles. Yes, these positions puzzle me.

20weight
Start stop
AFM/dfm
Variable oil pressure pump
On/off alternator
Long oil change cycles

All of these are for mpg not the user experience/longevity.
 
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Industry wide it’s well known 20weight is for mpg, not longevity. You defend 20 like it’s the holy grail. I almost forgot, your long oil change cycles. Yes, these positions puzzle me.

20weight
Start stop
AFM/dfm
Variable oil pressure pump
On/off alternator
Long oil change cycles

All of these are for mpg not the user experience/longevity.
In what industry?) Who knows? Experts on forums? Are there any real studies confirming that 0-20 oil leads to a decrease in engine life? Are there any real studies that more frequent oil changes increase the life of the engine? Real research, not phrases from the series I do this, and my engine runs for a long time. And I drive on 0-20, already the second generation of GM, and my previous Chevrolet Tahoe with a 6.2 engine drove 100,000 miles without problems on 0-20 oil, which I also changed according to the regulations once every 7500 miles, driving on it just as hard with the pedal to the floor and driving on the highways at high speed. There are no such studies, so no industry knows about it, and it remains just words from the forums.
 

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Drive it like you stole it. And yes, you are not an expert. Sometimes common sense is not so common.
 
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