Is this normal?

[YukonRog]

'05 Yukon 200k miles. Still chasing a leak. Found oil pan rear ds bolt to be finger tight! Re torqued all to 18ft lbs. Not the end one's though. 8.5lbs on them. But one was loose! Is this normal?
If the leak doesn't stop I'll be faced with the daunting task of pulling the pan I guess. It's a 4x4.
Recently had a rebuilt trans installed. They overfilled it by 2 qts and the drain pan bolt was loose and leaking too! I can't trust anyone, but the oil pan was factory!

 

[PNWYukon]

Not normal! Someone else been messing around under your rig? I was going to do the oil pan gasket but I can't get it high enough without a lift to mess with it. Too tight under there and too much to remove.

 

[YukonRog]

The ONLY people that have been under there were the transmission shop. And like I pointed out, they're incompetent. The little plastic shield that covers the bottom of the bell housing was loose too! Coincidentally, that's right where the loose pan bolt was. Maybe some rookie trainee just loosening things?
I've seen a few YouTube videos where guys have pulled the pan using Jack Stands and a Floor Jack. Still looks like a pain. I'm old, I have the skills, but the body just doesn't cooperate anymore!

 

[OR VietVet]

Yea, even though I have the know how and the tools and can set mine up on 4 tall jack stands, I don't want to tackle it because I am almost 68 and getting up and down from the ground is a PITA! I have my 05 Z71 at the shop today, two guys own the shop that used to work for me, and they are doing the transmission cooling lines and all the fluids changeover because of ground and no place to get rid of fluids. I just did the upside stuff like all new wires and plugs and air filter and did both belts and tensioners and idler. I also did the front and rear brakes with new rotors, pads and hardware and new park brake shoes but they are going to do park brake adjustment. I have oil pan seepage but no drips so that is coming later.

 

[YukonRog]

Yeah same here. 67 broke my back, bad neck fusing from arthritis and bad knees. Takes me forever to get up from the floor. Nice to have people you can depend on to do the job right. Those parking brakes need a large caliper like tool to get them adjusted right.

 

[JonnyTahoe]

Not normal! Someone else been messing around under your rig? I was going to do the oil pan gasket but I can't get it high enough without a lift to mess with it. Too tight under there and too much to remove.

I used four 6X6's one under each wheel plus 3 floor jacks plus wheel chocks on all four corners. I used some old carpet to lay on. The Truck wasn't going anywhere that is how it has to be before I will work under it.

 

[YukonRog]

Exactly the way I was taught by my HS Auto Shop teacher. Try as much as you can to knock it off the stands or blocks. If you can't, you're safe to go under!

 

[JonnyTahoe]

Exactly the way I was taught by my HS Auto Shop teacher. Try as much as you can to knock it off the stands or blocks. If you can't, you're safe to go under!

I don't try to move it but a floor jack with weight on it will not roll on a garage floor.

 

[YukonRog]

I'll never trust a floor jack by itself. Hydraulic cylinder with no lock? No thanks.

 

[JonnyTahoe]

I'll never trust a floor jack by itself. Hydraulic cylinder with no lock? No thanks.

I have but realized it was a risk. Safety First !!

 

[YukonRog]

I have but realized it was a risk. Safety First !!

All it takes is one time and you could lose your life. I've seen all kinds of things. Leaking hydraulics and a slow crush, I also watched one guy lower a small RV while kneeling on one knee. He dropped the bumper on his other knee so the full weight went straight down from his knee to foot, splitting the shin bones. Gotta think about what could happen, and then make it impossible.

 

[wjburken]

All it takes is one time and you could lose your life. I've seen all kinds of things. Leaking hydraulics and a slow crush, I also watched one guy lower a small RV while kneeling on one knee. He dropped the bumper on his other knee so the full weight went straight down from his knee to foot, splitting the shin bones. Gotta think about what could happen, and then make it impossible.

Situations can go pear shaped in an instance.

My first engineering job was designing dump boxes, snowplows and salt spreaders for large trucks. I would sometimes cover our technical support department when they were busy or out. I got a call one day from a dealer of ours where a guy had been killed installing one of our dump boxes onto a truck.

Our manual said to put 8”x8” or larger timbers across the truck frame while working under the dump box. This provides a “livable” amount do space should the box drop while a person was leaning across the truck frame rail due to a Jack or hoist failing.

Turns out this particular guy was hooking up the air cylinder for the tailgate release while he was supporting the box with an over head hoist. Unfortunately, the hoist was hooked to the tailgate so when he hooked up the air, the tailgate releases causing the tailgate to swing up and the box drop. Since he didn’t have a timber in place he was crushed between the dump box and the truck frame. They knew when they lifted the box he would immediately bleed out internally so they had his wife come in to say good bye before they lifted the box. He was 29 years old.

I don’t mess around with anything that isn’t supported properly.

 

[YukonRog]

Situations can go pear shaped in an instance.

My first engineering job was designing dump boxes, snowplows and salt spreaders for large trucks. I would sometimes cover our technical support department when they were busy or out. I got a call one day from a dealer of ours where a guy had been killed installing one of our dump boxes onto a truck.

Our manual said to put 8”x8” or larger timbers across the truck frame while working under the dump box. This provides a “livable” amount do space should the box drop while a person was leaning across the truck frame rail due to a Jack or hoist failing.

Turns out this particular guy was hooking up the air cylinder for the tailgate release while he was supporting the box with an over head hoist. Unfortunately, the hoist was hooked to the tailgate so when he hooked up the air, the tailgate releases causing the tailgate to swing up and the box drop. Since he didn’t have a timber in place he was crushed between the dump box and the truck frame. They knew when they lifted the box he would immediately bleed out internally so they had his wife come in to say good bye before they lifted the box. He was 29 years old.

I don’t mess around with anything that isn’t supported properly.

 

[YukonRog]

That would suck. I've taught safety classes and showed videos of industrial accidents. I can't stress enough have a contingency plan in place. And LOTO! (Lock Out, Tag Out)

 

[ROGELIO A GUZMAN]

What about those drive up ramps. What do you guys think of those. Normally made it stamped steel or had plastic.

 

[wjburken]

What about those drive up ramps. What do you guys think of those. Normally made it stamped steel or had plastic.

I use ramps with confidence as long as they are in good condition. Make sure you have good wheel chocks on the wheels that are still on the ground.

In fact, I use wheel chocks no matter what when I have a vehicle up on jack stands or ramps.

 

[YukonRog]

I always block the wheels too. I like the solid ramps more than the steel "stamped" type. I've seen those flatten out. However, I've also seen people modify them by either stuffing a large block of wood under them or welding straps across the open end so they don't spread.

 

[Bob2C]

I use ramps with confidence as long as they are in good condition. Make sure you have good wheel chocks on the wheels that are still on the ground.

In fact, I use wheel chocks no matter what when I have a vehicle up on jack stands or ramps.

Never had luck getting my truck up on plastic ramps. They slide as I try to drive up. They work for my other cars and smaller suvs so I just crawl under without ramps for oil changes.


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[wjburken]

Never had luck getting my truck up on plastic ramps. They slide as I try to drive up. They work for my other cars and smaller suvs so I just crawl under without ramps for oil changes.


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Never used plastic ramps. With the metal ones, I put the vehicle in 4WD so the front tires pull the ramp under them. I have also put some 2x4s against the front wall of the garage to keep them in place if they scoot a little.

 

[Bob2C]

Never used plastic ramps. With the metal ones, I put the vehicle in 4WD so the front tires pull the ramp under them. I have also put some 2x4s against the front wall of the garage to keep them in place if they scoot a little.

Oh ok. Great idea. I never thought about that.


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