Gas prices making anyone reconsider?

[Baja_Bob]

I've seen the new Lyriq driving around in my area lately, they are a little bigger than I thought.

 

[suterusu]

Cool tool, but does it adjust for the higher price of the Diesel engine?
I was 100% sold on the baby duramax until the latest price spike, now I'll stick with the 5.3.
Best all around engine, cheapest operating costs, should go 200k without issue.
3.0 requires wet belt oil pump replacement at 150k, at least $1200 repair.

Depends on your trim, its a $1,500 discount over the 6.2L on the Denali. A $1,200 repair (and the $995 upcharge from the 5.3L, and the cost of DEF) is negligible over 150K miles. The chart also doesn't factor in that the Duramax regularly beats the EPA estimates, while the gassers usually underperform.

 

[Stbentoak]

Not to mention an engine that could grenade lifters and leave you stranded at anywhere from 1200 miles to 22k miles. That alone would shy me away from either gas choice. Doing 300+ miles on mine today with zero worry.
Also did a DIY oil change yesterday, no fuss or muss in 20 min, everything easy to reach and accessible….avg of 25 mpg so far over 10 k miles….

 

[Joseph Garcia]

I'm not even thinking about an EV, until a nationwide network of charging stations are put in place. I don't want to have to map out where the charging stations are along my long trip roads, and then hope that they are operational, without a waiting line of vehicles, waiting to hook up.

 

[SSGUNNER]

My wife just txt me a link to a 22 Esky…
Does she want one??? Guess we aint reconsidering…

 

[Wwes]

Depends on your trim, its a $1,500 discount over the 6.2L on the Denali. A $1,200 repair (and the $995 upcharge from the 5.3L, and the cost of DEF) is negligible over 150K miles. The chart also doesn't factor in that the Duramax regularly beats the EPA estimates, while the gassers usually underperform.

I own a new HD truck with the 6.7 Duramax. Yes, it gets 22-23 MPG unloaded on the highway which is amazing. I also spend $13 every 5-10 tanks of gas for DEF fluid. There are horror stories all over about DEF failures and emissions equipment on diesels though I haven't had any personal failures (and hope not to).

You make some points but that's a curvy road to go down - we know the belt needs replaced so that's a given. We don't know that lifters will fail, diesel exhaust components won't fail, nor any other repairs between the three engines. Any anticipated repairs outside of scheduled maintenance are speculative.

 

[GMCnewbee]

Just topped up the Denali, $75 for 15 gallons, or $5 per gal. Good thing I am retired and not driving much!

 

[George B]

I'm not even thinking about an EV, until a nationwide network of charging stations are put in place. I don't want to have to map out where the charging stations are along my long trip roads, and then hope that they are operational, without a waiting line of vehicles, waiting to hook up.

I would only consider one for my local commute and let the Burn sit waiting for the long trips.

 

[suterusu]

I own a new HD truck with the 6.7 Duramax. Yes, it gets 22-23 MPG unloaded on the highway which is amazing. I also spend $13 every 5-10 tanks of gas for DEF fluid. There are horror stories all over about DEF failures and emissions equipment on diesels though I haven't had any personal failures (and hope not to).

You make some points but that's a curvy road to go down - we know the belt needs replaced so that's a given. We don't know that lifters will fail, diesel exhaust components won't fail, nor any other repairs between the three engines. Any anticipated repairs outside of scheduled maintenance are speculative.

The 3.0L LM2 is completely different animal and sips DEF compared to a V8. Additionally, GM is doing 100K mile powertrain warranties on the LM2, and that can cheaply be extended. Meanwhile, the brand new gassers are still ticking time bombs even with it being a known issue. I'd rather have a planned belt inspection/replacement, granted a lot of us making the purchase decision won't have the truck long enough for it to matter.

 

[xycrazy]

The 3.0L LM2 is completely different animal and sips DEF compared to a V8. Additionally, GM is doing 100K mile powertrain warranties on the LM2, and that can cheaply be extended. Meanwhile, the brand new gassers are still ticking time bombs even with it being a known issue. I'd rather have a planned belt inspection/replacement, granted a lot of us making the purchase decision won't have the truck long enough for it to matter.

Why are the brand new gassers time bombs? I think the lifter issue is related to engines built in a specific timeframe. Before or beyond that timeframe I assume you're fine?! As far as I heard from GMC the lifter issue is related to things that happened during Covid when parts were stored outside and impacted by climate, and no one was there to take care of it.

 

[R32driver]

Why are the brand new gassers time bombs? I think the lifter issue is related to engines built in a specific timeframe. Before or beyond that timeframe I assume you're fine?! As far as I heard from GMC the lifter issue is related to things that happened during Covid when parts were stored outside and impacted by climate, and no one was there to take care of it.

The diesel fans love to call the gassers timebombs just like the gasser fans love to call the diesel high maintenance cause it needs a fairly substantial belt replacement once in its lifetime. I wrote off the diesel immediately after reading about this belt (and complex emissions BS like all modern diesels) but it actually seems to be a really great engine. The lifter issue with gassers appears to be a much smaller issue than this forum would have you believe. GM produces hundreds of thousands of these and most have not had issues.

 

[Swagfu]

I remember back in 08 the government had a buyback program or something like it that encouraged people to trade in the larger vehicles for more gas efficient cars. I am surprised they haven't brought that program back. At the time I was driving my first 99 Tahoe Z71. I was commuting to work and it started costing me almost half my paycheck every week just in gas. The trans had started slipping...gas in my area was about $4.30 a gallon, so I took advantage and bought a 2008 Scion Xb. It was a great car but it wasn't the Tahoe. I miss that truck all the time. I have a feeling gas prices will rebound at some point. Now that I am not driving as much, I will be keeping my Tahoe this time around.

 

[xycrazy]

Once entering recession mode gas prices will very likely plummet

 

[Baja_Bob]

I took advantage and bought a 2008 Scion Xb.

Do you mean this Scion? ha ha

 

[Swagfu]

Do you mean this Scion? ha ha

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Pretty close I suppose.

 

[Chad G 1979]

I don't have mine yet(timeline unknown yet). However i have an acadia, and canyon so gas prices will be affected somewhat, but i drive less than 6k miles in a year and my wife is around 10k per year, so our driving is not like many folks.

 

[mb1500]

Once entering recession mode gas prices will very likely plummet

Not likely. Domestic consumption only dropped around 3% during the last recession, and normalized there for ~6 years.

For most people energy is a need. This is very different from a want, which the value of will indeed plummet here shortly.

 

[R32driver]

I seen another jump in price today. Regular up to $4.85 and diesel up to $5.95

 

[suterusu]

Why are the brand new gassers time bombs? I think the lifter issue is related to engines built in a specific timeframe. Before or beyond that timeframe I assume you're fine?! As far as I heard from GMC the lifter issue is related to things that happened during Covid when parts were stored outside and impacted by climate, and no one was there to take care of it.

Because even newer trucks way past the timeframe reported are failing.

 

[sickk21]

Because even newer trucks way past the timeframe reported are failing.

I haven’t came across any 2022s that are failing. Have I missed it?