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I vaguely remember seeing something where the wires go through the firewall near the booster. Not sure though.
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Ah, well, that's a possibility I didn't check. Maybe it's dangling inside the cab under the dash. I'll check this out tonight when I get home. Thanks.I vaguely remember seeing something where the wires go through the firewall near the booster. Not sure though.
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OEM lasted 18+ yearsHi All,
It's been awhile since I've come back to this, but the truck has been running fine since I worked on it last year.
...That is until today.
Cranks, but no start. Cannot hear fuel pump whine at key-on...no fuel pressure. I think it finally gave up the ghost. The fuel pump relay checks out on the bench, and the terminals in the fuse box are all getting power when they need it. Fuse is fine. I can tap on the tank, but can't get it to start humming. I think it's all hummed-out. Not feeling the love.
Overall, not a bad life for what I think is a stock pump (more than 146k), so I'm going to start the hunt for a new one.
My question...what's the favorite brand of replacement? Should I pony up for an OEM, or is there an aftermarket pump out there that is giving good service? I've heard Airtex, along with many of the brands sold at AutoZone, O'Reilly, and other places are junk and to avoid them.
Thanks!
Solid reasoning.OEM lasted 18+ years
Your right long debated issue is these fuel pumps. Many many threads on these pumps everybody wants the best pump for the money but just because I got X amount of years out of my pump doesn't mean you will with that exact brand pump.Solid reasoning.
I thought about that too, but 18 years is also a long time for GM suppliers to change. The manufacturer of the original pump is not necessarily who makes it today, especially because manufacturers are always looking to save money somewhere.
This was my reasoning for asking what is working for people today.
Thanks
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Depends on your situation when you see the prices for an OEM pump you may consider an auto store pump. People do buy them and they get some years out of them.Hi All,
It's been awhile since I've come back to this, but the truck has been running fine since I worked on it last year.
...That is until today.
Cranks, but no start. Cannot hear fuel pump whine at key-on...no fuel pressure. I think it finally gave up the ghost. The fuel pump relay checks out on the bench, and the terminals in the fuse box are all getting power when they need it. Fuse is fine. I can tap on the tank, but can't get it to start humming. I think it's all hummed-out. Not feeling the love.
Overall, not a bad life for what I think is a stock pump (more than 146k), so I'm going to start the hunt for a new one.
My question...what's the favorite brand of replacement? Should I pony up for an OEM, or is there an aftermarket pump out there that is giving good service? I've heard Airtex, along with many of the brands sold at AutoZone, O'Reilly, and other places are junk and to avoid them.
Thanks!
Yes, good point. Has a lot to do with environment (hot climate), letting tank run low, fuel quality, installation quality, bad day at the fuel pump factory.Your right long debated issue is these fuel pumps. Many many threads on these pumps everybody wants the best pump for the money but just because I got X amount of years out of my pump doesn't mean you will with that exact brand pump.
Ha! Yes, definitely. $300 does make one want to look for alternatives.Depends on your situation when you see the prices for an OEM pump you may consider an auto store pump. People do buy them and they get some years out of them.
Hey All,
I think I'm going to have a little time to chisel on this problem this weekend.
I probably won't have enough time to drop the tank, but may have enough to pop the upper intake and have a look. Still, that's a major pain, so I'm thinking of some other tests I can run before I get extreme. I'm planning to look at the plugs, the cap and rotor, and check for vacuum leaks. I might even grab the pressure gauge and do another leak-down just to verify what I saw the first time.
I've read that a vacuum leak can cause the fuel pressure regulator to misbehave, and cause the engine to run rich. If I have a vacuum leak, it's not severe enough to make it run super bad (yet). Not throwing codes or mis-firing. Seems to run OK. Still gets around 15 mpg, so mileage hasn't suffered much. Occasionally idles a little rough if I've been driving on the highway and stop at a light, but then seems to straighten out, sometimes by the next stop light.
I'm still running rich, though. Sooty coating on the inside of my tailpipe. I can clean it out, and it's back in a few days. I can smell the richness in the exhaust, and I'm thinking I'm going to end up trashing my catalytic converter(s) if I let this continue.
I can also smell gas in the intake plenum when I remove the air intake and sniff down in the throttle. I did a quick leak-down test, but pressure stays solid when engine is killed, so is it possible that the gas smell could be a by-product of a vacuum leak somewhere? Also, is it possible for a fuel pressure regulator to 'sort of' fail? Meaning it would not leak down quickly, but could still be leaking enough fuel in the intake to cause the engine to run rich, but not rich enough to throw codes?
I'm thinking I need to attack this 'rich' issue before worrying too much about the fuel pump.
I'm in that weird no-man's-land where the truck isn't really running all that bad, but I know something is wrong.
Any more ideas?
Thanks folks!
Yeah, I'm starting to think along those lines. Fuel pumps are sort of a bummer to fix, so definitely want it to last. Going to see if I can find one around here tomorrow.For a job that you’d rather not repeat too soon, I’d go with an ACDelco part.
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Yeah, I'm starting to think along those lines. Fuel pumps are sort of a bummer to fix, so definitely want it to last. Going to see if I can find one around here tomorrow.
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That's a fantastic idea. I may try that this weekend, unless I get a chance before.I’d coat everything under there with a degreaser and drench it with a hose. Let it dry and see if the smell is back.
It could just be gas spilled when you pulled the pump, dispenser/fill line...
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I’d coat everything under there with a degreaser and drench it with a hose. Let it dry and see if the smell is back.
It could just be gas spilled when you pulled the pump, dispenser/fill line...
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Hey all, realized I never closed this one out.That's a fantastic idea. I may try that this weekend, unless I get a chance before.
Thanks!
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