can not break in motor cuz misfires

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Hello every1. I finally got around to firing up my rebuilt 6.0 lq4 after having it bored for new pistons .
Upon first start I was happy to hear the motor sounding smooth but had a manifold leak. I ran it for no more than 2min. Fixed the exhaust leak , fired it back up and let it run alil longer and quickly realized I had misfires. Hooked my modis up and found p0300 and moved on to misfire counter where I found bank 2 ringing up counts on cyl4,6,8...cyl4 had 46 misfires and 154 in history cyl6 had 132 and 151 history cyl8 had 18 and 29 in the history.
I checked the spark with a spark tester n saw them all firing, checked all my connectors and connections and main grounds, all were good. Swapped coils plugs and wires with known good cylinders after verifying and inspecting/testing all components.
Noid lighted injectors and verified I had good commands but cyl6 made no change whether it was connected or not so I knew it was a dead mis in that cyl, then did injector balance and found fuel pressure and injectors to be good!?
Pulled the plugs again and removed the valve cover to chk springs,rockers, push rods while I did the compression test and a consistant 190psi in every cyl every time (which was very good news!) Stuck my bore scope in to look at cyl walls n valves n the look normal for a motor that has only ran for 10min....but in cyl6 I noticed a burnt\charred spot on the piston where the intake valve is, from what I think is unburned fuel?
I sprayed around all the usual intake leak areas and all the others and found I have no air leaks.
I checked all my parameters 02, maf, map, and all the others and couldnt find anything .checked alt output, good! Since the motor has never gotten to close loop not much can be learned there so I moved on to testing sensors (voltage, frequency, resistance tests) found nothing!
I kno I should do a crank re learn but cant cuz the misfire and I dont have p0315 so im assuming the pcm has it stored.
Im down to pullin injectors to verify spray patterns/known good cyl swap and other than that im not sure where else to go? Im running out of things to test and all ive learned is what it isnt..I am reaching out to all of u to get my brain cells workin cuz its burning me out and im sure its something simple that I am missing so plz help me stay sharp and throw ur 2cents my way! Thanks
I can give motor specs if that helps but its really a mild build and should be the same as anyother misfire diag.
 

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Did you crank the motor with the cover removed and see the piston in cyl 6 travel? Check the gaps on the plugs?
 
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Yes, at one point I thought I had an exhaust valve stuck open which is kkinda what the misfire sounds like through the intake manifold (FAST lsxrt) but its been so long I cant remember if thats just the way it sounded.
I think I am going to add a leak down test to my list cuz I guess compression test only proved my rings are good and my tester works lol first puff I found the shrader valve was stuck in and the gauge would not hold the cyl pressure so I had to pop on in real quick.
Pppffffftttt I hope its not there but only 1 way to find out!
 
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I really hope not..I did it by the book, prelube right b4 1st start and oil pressure was normal.
how else can I in verify ?
 

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I don't know how except pulling it. Does she start right up?
 
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Yeh that's what I thought :(
And yes she cranks right up ! Msd starter n red top battery seem to spin it up quicker than n b4 and sounds strong, healthy, smooth on cranking. The misfire counts go up right after pcm commands tb for idle then she starts with sputtering but stays alive on like 5 cylinders missing no matter what rpm but its a little to rough for my liking so I don't rev unless its required for a test and shut it off once I see what I needed
 
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Well I found my problem! And am shopping for a set of cats but can not make up my mind on what to get......any suggestions from my fellow community members!?
Thanks
 

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I replaced my cats with magnaflow, but yours will be different because mine have to be california legal.
 
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I have them in my cart..mainly cuz ihavw a magna cat back already installed! Just need to call up the vender to verify the part# I have is the direct fit federal set
 

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These roller cams need next to no break-in, at least not like the old flat tappet cams. The rings seat in pretty fast, within 500 miles and you should be good. When I nought my new 1ton dually back in 97, it said no heavy towing for the first 2000k miles. I got it with 22 miles on it and had a trailer behind it before it hit 200 miles. It towed for the next 600k with no major repairs.
 
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Yeh I wasnt really stressing the cam since I did the prelube for first start , I just didn't want to take any chances .....so my machinist did not give any mileage specs and just said to change the break in oil after 2hrs od run time once I do the few things he said (once she warms up n everything checks out good rev to 2000rpm and hold for 20min then take her out and run through rpm range and not cruise at a steady rpm for 2hrs then change the oil to complete break in)

Does that sound about right? Anything else I should do to ensure the longevity of the life for this motor?
 

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Sounds good to me. I wouldn't hold it at 2000 for 20min, I would just drive it and keep the rpm moving up and down. Do a few part throttle runs, and get progressively harder on the throttle.
 
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...u think I should really just drive it for break in?this does makes more sense , but I was trying to follow what the machinist recommend as he was the builder and I didnt want it to blow up and him just laughing sayin did u do what I said!? do engine dyno break/run in procedures have that much load right after hitting running temp?
I did drive it down n up my street but thottle hasn't learned how to idle when I come to a stop..MISFIRES ARE FINALLY GONE!!! Well I hope, when I drive mis count is all zeros but sometimes start incrementing in park or neutral off idle but I think its trying to figure out why the real time values arent anywhere near what its stock tune has programed or something lol? I dont kno this misfire diag completely burnt me out cuz I can only say what is not it and not what it is other than maybe the tune .
Im bout to go fire her up n let her warm up a few times the take her out if all is good!
 
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